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RE: And The Winner Is: Blu Ray! - 2/19/2008 10:01:57 PM

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Any kind of optical media is still basically a scam. The disks are susceptible to all kinds of damage and replacements are usually available only at full retail price. I've had some CDs that actually degraded over time.

Personally I rent, rip and burn. In most cases I don't concern myself with extremely high quality. There is a point at which most things are "good enough."

And yes, I am a scofflaw. Isn't everyone?

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RE: And The Winner Is: Blu Ray! - 2/20/2008 10:18:30 AM

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Has anyone thought that they'd be better off without television?

Nah... didn't think so either .

Blu-ray is not television, it's for movies (or shows) on a disc.

That aside though, I haven't had Television in.... at least 10 years, maybe one or two more... I do have a TV (A decent HDTV in fact), which is used for gaming, anime watching, and sometimes being a computer monitor, but I don't have any kind of TV service.

Anything I want to watch is, first of all going to be subtitled anime which you don't generally see on TV (Especially not an entire series all at once with no ads =) ), and secondly I can get just fine by downloading it and/or buying the DVD(s) for it.

If it wasn't for the PS3 having Blu-ray I wouldn't care about that either, really, particularly since I'm not generally into movies... But, fnord.

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RE: And The Winner Is: Blu Ray! - 2/20/2008 5:20:39 PM

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sure, I have all these movies in HD, finally figured out how to hook up the player to an older TV, and has anyone seen the prices of the blu-ray players????? They are going to have to come waaaaaaay down before I buy one.......I knew there was a reason why I kept my VHS tapes and the player!

Bah HUMBUG!!!

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RE: And The Winner Is: Blu Ray! - 2/20/2008 5:48:10 PM

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the only 2 reasons htat I am glad to see blu-ray make the cut is the PS3 is a good quality blu-ray player and its just one more reason to buy a PS3, and comparing the storage size is huge. it will store over 50 gigs. I am ready to see some blu-ray burners. combining this technology with others avaliable I forsee having to buy a selected few albums again this time, smaller than a dime.

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RE: And The Winner Is: Blu Ray! - 2/20/2008 11:07:34 PM

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HAHA. Remember I am a tech.

Blu Ray disks were obsolete before they even hit the market. Yup. The new holographic disks had been invented. Many many terabytes of storage.

Years ago I found out that VHS actually came before beta, but was abandoned by Sony because of the poor quality. Beta was developed by Sony as well as VHS, and the VHS system would wind up licensed to JVC, and subsequently to Matsushita, the parent company of Panasonic, who built most of the earlier VHS decks out there at the time. Anything from a GE to a Magnavox, inside it was Panasonic for many many years.

And then a Harmon Kardon VHS was built by NEC, and an NEC beta was built by Sony. This is fact. Then RCA and a few other brands went with a Hitachi design. Although a decent design it did not perform all that well. Even with five video heads they could not match the perfomance of the Panasonics. Then when VHS hifi came out it became seven heads without a flying erase head. They simply did not have good enough motors.

In the meantime people were looking for better quality. Then SVHS came out, that recorded on metal tape and went to a 7Mhz bandwidth, then ED beta came out with 8.6Mhz.It wasn't all that hard considering beta's higher head to tape speed.

Then LDs came out. In the beginning they were primitive by today's standards, and the "new" models that would play the "new" CLV disks had to have some RAM. That was the breaking point, if they need RAM, why not a processor as well ? Gotta have one anyway. That is when the technology took off and the DVD format came about, shortly thereafter.

Well, first it was CDs, that was audio, as time went by those MPEG formats were invented. Then someone figures out a way to make the laser read alot finer, more tracks, therefore recording more information. It was a "new" kind of laser.

Then we get the Blu Rays which are another "new" kind of laser, and now the holographic disks, which are another new kind of laser.The formats have not really changed, they are just making more and more smaller lasers to get more information on the disk, and going to multi-layer.

But the thing is, as long as we will buy it they will make it.

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RE: And The Winner Is: Blu Ray! - 2/20/2008 11:13:24 PM

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One quickie funny about this.

When the Blu Rays came out, well not right away, I decided to see what a burner would cost. Well I find this price, I am not saying I remember exactly what it was but it was like $23,156.48.

Now imagine going into the store with $23,156 and not having the forty eight cents !

"Hey Ma can I have forty eight cents ?".

Take it how you want it, I just thought it might amuse some.

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RE: And The Winner Is: Blu Ray! - 2/21/2008 11:14:20 PM

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It looks like Amazon is having a fire sale on HD dvds. I would imagine that the prices on HD discs as well as the players will drop dramatically now.

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RE: And The Winner Is: Blu Ray! - 2/21/2008 11:29:19 PM

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ORIGINAL: SugarMyChurro

Any kind of optical media is still basically a scam. The disks are susceptible to all kinds of damage and replacements are usually available only at full retail price. I've had some CDs that actually degraded over time.

Personally I rent, rip and burn. In most cases I don't concern myself with extremely high quality. There is a point at which most things are "good enough."

And yes, I am a scofflaw. Isn't everyone?

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071119-overly-broad-copyright-law-has-made-us-a-nation-of-infringers.html?_

The article in this link is informative but forgotten in all of this is what has been determined in courts as 'fair use' of copyrighted material. What I find very possibly lost in all of the overwhelming urge in western civilization...to sue, is that there has to be demonstrated and proven damages so if one does not sell any copyrighted material or freely distribute these materials and does not copy any material that is otherwise only available via sale...there are no damages.

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