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ORIGINAL: lateralist1

I'm a Domme but I'm an archetypal male. My role models were all male except for George (famous five).
However growing up in a male dominated society looking like a woman being forced into woman's roles takes it's toll.
My generation had the pill but a man could still insist on his conjugal rights. If you weren't married and had a child it was still labelled a bastard and equal pay only existed in certain professions.
Feminism to me is about women having equal opportunities to be who they are. It maybe just as difficult for some men.

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

I wanted to address this thread again because it got me to thinking about something....

Is this  really about being submissive or about gender? What role models are submissive men supposed to have? I am sure there are dommes that very much identify with being a spoiled princess also. Soldiers can be some of the most submissive people around... submitting constantly to the authority of others... just saying

• The Self, the regulating center of the psyche and facilitator of individuation
• The Shadow, the opposite of the ego image, often containing qualities that the ego does not identify with but possesses nonetheless
• The Anima, the feminine image in a man's psyche; or:
• The Animus, the masculine image in a woman's psyche
• The Persona

• The Syzygy
• The Child
• The Hero
• The Great Mother
• The Wise old man
• The Trickster or Fox
• The Puer Aeternus (Latin for "eternal boy")
• The Cosmic Man
• The artist-scientist
• The Scarlet Women
• The Faceless Man

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ORIGINAL: Paulsgirl

Old Guard; ~princess~ the term for alpha female slave....definitely not a helpless type.
 

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ORIGINAL: bipolarber

These are the only ones that occur to me off the top of my head, and frankly, I'm a little dismayed by the sheer lack of any positive male archtypes at all. Being a male sub is definitely a lonely, isolated business. At least mythologically speaking, women had the comfort of knowing that their submissive archtypes often "lived happily ever after." We males usually ended up being shot, run through, hung or burned at the stake. (Because we're "unmanly" you see, and don't reenforce the male-as-hero narrative. Thus, we must die so that "twue males" can defeat the dragon, and lay claim to the girl.) All rubbish, of course.

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ORIGINAL: Statepalace

I was discussing archetypes with the D a few weeks ago, and the conversation has left me with a few questions.

In our talk I mentioned that the role models (archetypes if you will) that I strongly identified with as a child/young adult were NOT the helpless princess types.

I could strongly identify with She-Ra (so dating myself, but it's a cartoon), with Xena warrior princess, hell even with Rainbow Brite (she had powers!). The characters from fairy tales, cartoons, comics and books that really resonated with me were tough chicks.

He muttered something about "feminist brainwashing", and I said no, the fact that I identified so strongly with these archetypes of women was not because of feminist brainwashing. I just didn't "fit" the dainty princess mold; I broke things and got dirty often.

So, here are the questions -

#1 For those of you that identify as submissive, what archetypal characters did you strongly identify with as a child/young adult?

#2 Did they change once you had that "ah hah" moment and figured out that you were submissive?



Definition from Wikipedia - 


An archetype is a generic, idealized model of a person, object, or concept from which similar instances are derived, copied, patterned, or emulated. In psychology, an archetype is a model of a person, personality, or behavior.

Archetypes have been present in folklore and literature for thousands of years and appear to be present in prehistoric artwork. The use of archetypes to analyze personality was advanced by Carl Jung early in the 20th century. The value in using archetypal characters in fiction derives from the fact that a large group of people are able to unconsciously recognize the archetype, and thus the motivations, behind the character's behavior.