lateralist1
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I was trying to point out that archetypes are not gender specific as Archer agreed with later on in the discussion.
There is a tendency to mix up gender orientation with D/s.
ie an alpha male can't be submissive
whereas actually an alpha male is perfectly capable of being submissive if it is his choice to be so.
I admit to having difficulty in expressing myself clearly without resorting to stereotypes.
That's why I used myself as an example of a woman who thinks and acts like a man but has difficulty in doing so in a male dominated world. Both men and women are sometimes forced into roles by the society that they live in which they may not be able to fulfil
Thetammyjo uses the example of the knight as a very positive archetype for a submissive.
As Archer points out archetypes don't have to be positive or negative. It's not a good idea to confuse archetypes with particular role models. I prefer to use the word monach rather than king or queen for this reason. Not gender specific therefore less likely to have specific role models attatched to it.
I hope the above communicates better than my last attempt. I really do have real difficulty with this very complex subject. However I do feel that it is a very important discussion.
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