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RE: What does submit mean to a Master - 2/22/2008 4:58:42 AM

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Dunno I don't do the online gig. It doesn't float my boat.

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RE: What does submit mean to a Master - 2/22/2008 5:23:45 AM

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My opinion you already know..

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RE: What does submit mean to a Master - 2/22/2008 6:47:33 AM

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Foititis. I dissagree that the slave has the total power. Is it not the slave who is the one seeking a Master. Where is the power in that. As a Master I have the power to choose or discard the slave.

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RE: What does submit mean to a Master - 2/22/2008 6:54:39 AM

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Neither have the TOTAL power, there is a reason it is calle Power Exchange........
Dnomyar, to I would say the slave does seek a Master, but the Master also seeks a slave and both have the choice to DISCARD the other, though I find that a rather ugly word to use, as it implies getting rid of something that holds no value to one any longer, as if it were trash and that implies that one holds no value in another as a human being and whether people would like to say it or not, as humans we ALL hold value, even if it is the value of NOT having something the other person wants/needs. My point is this, NO ONE holds absolute power, ever.......unless someone is brainwashed and I would certainly hope that is not what we are discussing, as that is NOT what this is all about.
Ok, that is my two cents worth, for whatever VALUE it may hold, giggles.
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RE: What does submit mean to a Master - 2/22/2008 7:36:02 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Focus50

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ORIGINAL: jeaS2Atonka

today after sending master an email asking that he tell me in detail what it was her wanted from me and i explained that maybe i am not ready to submit totally to him we spoke on msn, he asked me a simple question:

if i was to ask you to leave your life and come to me now would you?

my reply was :girl would have questions first master

this by no means was pleasing to master and he told me that was the problem now he asked the same question to my sister slave her reply was pleasing to master

Crikey, your online M/s relationship includes being played off against a "sister" slave????

A 36yo mother should never allow herself to get jerked around by such a fantasy entrenched tosser! Do yourself a BIG favour and punt him and find someone who lives in the real World and has realistic expectations of a grown woman with kids!

Focus.

It ain't often Focus and I agree but he is spot on here! First off, anyone who would pull the bullshit he is using on you is an asshole. Trying to play you off against another woman is bullshit and the other woman is probably as fake as he is. He isn't dominating you he is manipulating you.

As for kids, there are only two healthy ways to deal with them that I know. One is to put them first (as I do) or to say "submit to me ONLY during those times you have dealt with them, get a babysitter, etc".

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RE: What does submit mean to a Master - 2/22/2008 11:57:44 AM

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Tough question and the simple answer is what ever the Master defines as submission and you accept and adhere to.

For me submission to my will is a expression of adoration, RESPECT, and trust. A total belief in me and deferance to my skills, maturity, and care. I am a sexual sadist, so I do inflict pain for my own pleasure and submission to these acts is also an acceptance of who I am, and love for that part of me as well.

But, what submission is for me is not quite what it is for everyone else.

In reality Submission is defined by the Master but a slave makes submission a thing of beauty and that beauty belongs to her alone. Something not even Master can take away, and something even he is powerless against.

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And sometimes we make it a challenge. I have never in my life been able to just give someone my submission (hell I am still looking for the submit button), if I had done that as a child, I would have died, came close a few times anyway. Strong will and living despite what is being done makes me a hard slave to own and I will admit there is a great deal of admiration and respect for my Master. He has truly earned that title from me, even when I can not easily show it. When we get past that clash of wills, and begin to dance it is..heck there are no words for it that I can easily put here. But I know, and he knows, that clash will happen again, whether I want it to or not, it is the very fabric of my being.

It's not easy having a slave who is a SAM, few Dominants want one because of the effort we take. But when we do submit, it's not a gift, you have earned every bit of it.

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RE: What does submit mean to a Master - 2/22/2008 12:15:00 PM

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I have to agree with Focus50, probably and SimplyMichael. Your children have to come first. Everything you dream of in a M/s relationship is possible, real time, with the right Master. He will take into consideration your children, his needs, your needs, and reality. You may or may not live together, but he should do nothing to make your children uncomfortable or embarassed. He would not ask you to abandon your children or expect you to.

I know you are in a rush to fulfill the needs awakened in you, but think with your head and not your hormones. could you truly abandon your children and walk away? Could you do it for someone you have never met, but only talked to online? Not the easiest of questions to answer on a day when the kids have made you understand why some animals eat their young, so think about it when they are asleep and look like angels in their beds.

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RE: What does submit mean to a Master - 2/22/2008 12:18:40 PM

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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

Foititis. I dissagree that the slave has the total power. Is it not the slave who is the one seeking a Master. Where is the power in that. As a Master I have the power to choose or discard the slave.

This is true. But let's say a master likes me and, after talking a bit, chooses me. I still have the power to go... "Nah. I've been thinking about it and I don't choose you."

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RE: What does submit mean to a Master - 2/22/2008 2:27:28 PM

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First of all submitting is the slave/sub freeling giving themselves to me. Now after i receive this valuable gift I must nuture and cherish it. The slave/sub must understand and respect the authority and position that I have. Pleasing me is first and foremost. If she has children then lines must be clearly drawn out and not crossed by both, for the sake of the children they must see mommy as a role model who can handle all things but mommy must not argue with Dom in front of children any problems must be handle away from children. thats IMO.

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RE: What does submit mean to a Master - 2/23/2008 3:33:45 AM

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after reading all replies girl went to her Master on humble knee and spoke with him, girl realised she should have spoken with Master to resolve any issue she had with him, after much discussion Master and girl have worked through what girl saw was the problem and is happy to have sorted out the issues with her Master ?

girl is looking forward to learning and to serve her Master in the future, and would like to thank everyone for thier helpful advice.

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