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RE: breath play - 2/22/2008 12:15:12 PM   
Constrictor1


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Hello just13.
I applauld your trying to "endure " for your masters pleasure.Good girl. Please don't let one experience ruin a potentially enjoyable activity. There are just levels and levels to breath play. As well as many forms.some of the forms are (But not limited to): 1) bagging which you have experienced. btw was the bagging a smothering? or was it a forced CO2 rebreating? the first tends to immediately trigger a fight/flight response, while the 2nd is more"gentle" and takes more time to create a panic response.(usually). 2) manual strangulation. hands around throat squeezing either using pressure on the carotid artery or direct pressure on the trachea, or even a mixture of both. 3) Ligature strangulation. something around the throat to constrict air/blood flow. Be aware that there are some serious risks involved here and to think about them before/when playing. PVC's for one. does your partner know cpr. Do you have a safe "signal" in place? Signal being a "tapout as in martial arts or I have my slave hold a bell in her hand and she is to drop/throw it to make aware of a safe word issue. Can be hard to talk during this type of play. 4)general smothering. anything that covers the mouth and nose. Kinging ,Queening, HOM , CLEAR plastic, whatever else one can think of.5) positional asphyxia. An example is slave on his/her back with legs pushed back to the ears,or further, which does not allow for diaphragm expansion to get a full helping of air. 6) constrictive or compressional asphyxia. bear hug or ratchet straps as an example or constrictive and heavy weights on your body as an example of the second. Finally , there is CO2 rebreathing. gas mask play as an example here.
So that is an overview of the more common forms. Now as with any play introduction this should be started slowly with a build up of intensity/duration as BOTH partners feel comfortable and build TRUST. Another basic way to help initiate someone to breath play is a little operant conditioning. I almost always use breathplay with an associative pleasurable stimulus. Use the breath at this time to enhance the play not be the play. Start slow and build and always try to be safe this can be some serious shit. I have been enjoyably utilizing breath play for 14 years without any difficulty with a number of partners. If your Master or you (with your Masters permission) would like to email me on the other side I am always willing to help fellow deviants learn and grow.

Constrictor

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RE: breath play - 2/22/2008 12:27:59 PM   
BlackPhx


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Breath play had always been a hard limit for me..hard as a diamond. Asthmatic and with COPD, you give my lungs a chance to go down and they make Linda Lovelace look reluctant. It is one of Master's favorite things. He uses his hands and is very careful, but that doesn't make it any easier for me and I never orgasm with it, too busy trying not to fight back.

If he used a plastic bag or latex breath control hood, he would know he had been in a fight. The instinct to protect my breathing would outweigh everything else and it is likely he would never get it over my hair to begin with. I love and trust him, but I DON'T trust my lungs. They have betrayed me too many times.

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RE: breath play - 2/22/2008 12:38:32 PM   
justt13


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Constrictor1--
The bag was tied on with a rope around my neck but not smothered...so yes, it was gradual CO2 rebreathing....he held my hand the entire time and knows that if I squeeze his hand three times he will stop.  The first time, he stopped before I had to squeeze three times.  The second time, he pushed me until the point that I did have to squeeze three times. 

He is a trained paramedic and a VERY experience Dom.  I am not very experienced....so many things are new to me that I do with him.

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RE: breath play - 2/22/2008 12:54:35 PM   
tahlly


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This was something that I had always wanted to try; but my owner absolutly refuses to even contemplate something with such a high risk to it.

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RE: breath play - 2/22/2008 1:04:50 PM   
DaddyAndCarina


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I adore breath play ...  funny  thing was I learned of it with a vanilla partner. And I wont say it didnt scare the hell out of me the first time. Because it did,  but  there is something about a struggle and an impending orgasm that  when coupled together can be literally earth shaking. I think  if you havent already talk it over with him. There are many forms of breath play perhaps the one used just wasnt quite yours. Or may well become the one  you  really like in time Trust is the key here tho... I like edge play because of the trust it envolves .. .that alone  makes me feel ten foot tall and bullet proof so  to speak at times. My fave BTW is  hand or forarm to throat .... MMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmm. But if it doesnt get better for you it still probally will not harm the relationshipwe all have things that just dont work for us

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RE: breath play - 2/22/2008 1:14:53 PM   
BBWnNC72


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Hello all,
The first time i had breath play, i was so scared for about 5 seconds! Also it was my very first session in bdsm.  i absolutely loved it. Wanted more.  What made me the most comfortable was that He whispered in my ear every time He would wrap His hands around my throat. He would tell me to relax, trust Him, etc. 
i have tried the hand over the mouth and pinched nose, hated it. i have never tried a bag and i don't think i would want to.
The sensations i feel when i have my trainers hands around my throat and He is staring at me, omg, i get a great sensation that nothing compairs too. i get tingles all the way from my chest to my pussy. my whole body just goes into a whole new feeling, so much more then having an orgasm.
i find myself asking "please" and nothing else, for i just can't. LOL.  i can't wait till He chokes me out all the way. 
Now, i would never let anyone who didn't know what they were doing do this to me.  Fortunatly for me the first guy who did it teaches it at events. my trainer also knows and is very experienced in it. 
And if i didn't like it or was too scared, i wouldn't let it happen even if the guy was my Dom or Master.  It is OK to have limits, especialy those that are so hard core.  i would let the Dom know how it made you feel, communication is so very important, with out it, He may think that every thing is fine.  Play safe physically and emotionally.

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RE: breath play - 2/22/2008 3:06:41 PM   
briarrosethorne


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i have always enjoyed breath play and it can be VERY scary...but thats part of what i like about it... Master enjoys it very much also...he likes to hear me beg or try to beg... At any rate...just talk it out... Communication is a big thing!

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RE: breath play - 2/22/2008 3:12:08 PM   
BossyShoeBitch


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ORIGINAL: tigerseye

i adore breath play as well.  i wouldn't be able to deal with a bag over my head cause i am seriously claustrophobic so he puts his hand around my neck (i'm really small so he is able to wrap just one hand around my neck lol). 
for me it's the trust in it.  i have to be able to trust him like mad and know that he'll know how far to go, how far to push it so that i'm not in danger.  once he pushed it a bit farther than i was used to, and fought back a bit...he whispered for me to trust him, at which i calmed down

my advise would be to try it once or twice more, and beforehand talk about it.  let him know about your fears and how you want to do this to make him happy, but you need a little help.
i hope everything works out *smiles and hugs*


That little whisper gets me every time...


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