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I disagree, Bush has pre-delivered the election to the democrats.
Owner,
I once thought so too but, as I said then, when both Houses of Congress ended up having Democrats in the majority it too a major attack point away from the 2008 election. Which Presidential candidate will have a better opportunity to use Congress as a talking point in his/her (giving the possibility for Senator Clinton) campaign?
In 2006 people voted to change the status quo. They expected aggressive change. Some even expected to put withdrawing from Iraq to a vote or at the very least set a withdraw date as part of any Iraq spending bill. The majority party in Congress had the ability to do that. Any Presidential veto would further serve their cause and a Democrat in the White House would have been a forgone conclusion.
Instead we got Rodger Clemens, steroid use by millionaires playing baseball, and Bill #209 passed to establish a "National Quilt Museum". I remember hearing "Bush Lied - People Died"; how about an update - "Congress Quilted - Soldiers Wilted"?
You forget how much power, aka money, is involved here. McCain is the ideal candidate for maintaining the current status quo serving the biggest and wealthiest PAC's. Military contractors and those needing an ongoing cheap labor pool put him over the top.
And lets not short change the conspiracy theorists. If need be, all it would take would be a terrorist act where civilians are killed and another US monument blown up and this picture of Senator Obama http://www.drudgereport.com/flashoa.htm will run on every FOX newscast. You don't have to do much to scare the majority of people who will vote next November. Most are already scared. Most are VERY naive to the realities of 21st century Corporate polities. The political atmosphere better resembles the original 'Rollerball' script than the standard comparison to Orwell's '1984'.
Owner, I think you know I'm not happy about my prediction. How about a 'friendly wager' about the political party wining the white house - loser has to join and send $100 in the name of the winner to the political party or charity of the winner's choice?
Merc,
Not to be argumentative(that`s just not me),but the money advantage that the GOP has enjoyed for decades is over.
In 2004,for the 1st time, the DNC recorded more contributions than the GOP.
The "internets"( bushspeak)have changed everything.John Dean has revolutionized the whole thing,.By getting multiples of small donations,the democrats have overcome the corporate America money advantage that republicans have enjoyed.
Btw,it used to take twice as much money to elect a republican,than a democrat.
Losing the ability to steel elections will also make it harder for republicans to gain office.
Also,I heard today that McCain is having trouble getting money.He`s getting weaker by the news conference.
As far as steroids and congress go,this cartoon captures my feelings
http://www.airamerica.com/lionel/node/358
And ,I know about the multi-million dollar right-wing smear machine that will tear into Barak.
I fear he doesn`t have a defense that will withstand it.Hillary can and she can hit back.Something bullies hate.
We`ll see.
I love the wager challenge.You`re on,a hundred bucks.I`d prefer the charity,you have my personal email addy.I`ll add to the wager,the loser buys drinks when I come out to California or when you come home to Jersey.
< Message edited by Owner59 -- 2/25/2008 11:40:43 PM >
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