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RE: Predicting November Results - 2/27/2008 1:50:39 PM   
Mercnbeth


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$100 to the charity of the winner's choice.  I will take that action.
You're on - assuming you are taking Senator Obama?

Edited to add: Premature there huh!? Not necessarily Senator Obama but whoever wins between Obama and Clinton is the side I assume you're taking, not the retro Democratic candidate Senator McCain.

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RE: Predicting November Results - 2/27/2008 1:53:03 PM   
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$100 to the charity of the winner's choice.  I will take that action.
You're on - assuming you are taking Senator Obama?


He has to get nominated first.  As does whatever corporate lackey the Republicans throw up.

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RE: Predicting November Results - 2/27/2008 1:58:28 PM   
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$100 to the charity of the winner's choice.  I will take that action.
You're on - assuming you are taking Senator Obama?


He has to get nominated first.  As does whatever corporate lackey the Republicans throw up.Sinergy


Of course, as noted above by edit. The Republican corporate lackey is all but resolved, the Democratic corporate lackey will be Senator Clinton or Obama. Any other, unforeseen eventuality notwithstanding - Bet?

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RE: Predicting November Results - 2/27/2008 2:07:02 PM   
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Only if Obama gets the nomination and runs as the Democratic candidate for President...

I will pay $100 to your favorite charity, if he loses to the formerly tortured guy who thinks torturing people is cool, or the guy who thinks the universe is 6000 years old.

If Obama wins the Presidency, you will pay $100 to the charity of my choice.

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RE: Predicting November Results - 2/27/2008 2:44:47 PM   
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Only if Obama gets the nomination and runs as the Democratic candidate for President...

I will pay $100 to your favorite charity, if he loses to the formerly tortured guy who thinks torturing people is cool, or the guy who thinks the universe is 6000 years old.

If Obama wins the Presidency, you will pay $100 to the charity of my choice.

Sinergy
Bet - I need the tax write off if I lose and the woman's shelter will appreciate the donation if I win.

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RE: Predicting November Results - 3/5/2008 6:25:25 AM   
Mercnbeth


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Result: Another 4 years of a Republican White House.

Remember - you heard it here first!

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RE: Predicting November Results - 3/5/2008 8:04:56 AM   
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In 2006 people voted to change the status quo. They expected aggressive change. Some even expected to put withdrawing from Iraq to a vote or at the very least set a withdraw date as part of any Iraq spending bill. The majority party in Congress had the ability to do that. Any Presidential veto would further serve their cause and a Democrat in the White House would have been a forgone conclusion.

Instead we got Rodger Clemens, steroid use by millionaires playing baseball, and Bill #209 passed to establish a "National Quilt Museum". I remember hearing "Bush Lied - People Died"; how about an update - "Congress Quilted - Soldiers Wilted"?



We also got a record number of bills passed by both houses of Congress vetoed by AnencephalyBoy.

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RE: Predicting November Results - 3/5/2008 8:29:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

In 2006 people voted to change the status quo. They expected aggressive change. Some even expected to put withdrawing from Iraq to a vote or at the very least set a withdraw date as part of any Iraq spending bill. The majority party in Congress had the ability to do that. Any Presidential veto would further serve their cause and a Democrat in the White House would have been a forgone conclusion.

Instead we got Rodger Clemens, steroid use by millionaires playing baseball, and Bill #209 passed to establish a "National Quilt Museum". I remember hearing "Bush Lied - People Died"; how about an update - "Congress Quilted - Soldiers Wilted"?

We also got a record number of bills passed by both houses of Congress vetoed by AnencephalyBoy.

Sinergy


Yes - lets review some of the recent accomplishments of this Congress:

H.R. 2251 - To extend the Acadia National Park Advisory Commission, to provide improved visitor services at the park, and for other purposes - PASSED BY VOICE VOTE
H.R. 3332 - To provide for the establishment of a memorial within Kalaupapa National Historical Park located on the island of Molokai, in the State of Hawaii, to honor and perpetuate the memory of those individuals who were forcibly relocated to the Kalaupapa Peninsula from 1866 to 1969, and for other purposes - PASSED BY VOICE VOTE
H.Res. 868 - Recognizing the 100th anniversary of the declaration of Muir Woods National Monument by President Theodore Roosevelt - PASSED BY VOICE VOTE
H.Con.Res. 209 - Expressing the sense of Congress that the Museum of the American Quilter's Society, located in Paducah, Kentucky, should be designated as the "National Quilt Museum of the United States" - PASSED BY VOICE VOTE
H.R. 29 - To authorize the Secretary of the Interior to construct facilities to provide water for irrigation, municipal, domestic, military, and other uses from the Santa Margarita River, California, and for other purposes - PASSED BY VOICE VOTE
H.R. 664 - To amend the Water Desalination Act of 1996 to authorize the Secretary of the Interior to assist in research and development, environmental and feasibility studies, and preliminary engineering for the Municipal Water District of Orange County, California, Dana Point Desalination Project located at Dana Point, California - PASSED BY VOICE VOTE
H.R. 5270 - To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to extend the funding and expenditure authority of the Airport and Airway Trust Fund, and for other purposes. - PASSED BY VOICE VOTE
H. Res. 909 - Commemorating the courage of the Haitian soldiers that fought for American independence in the "Siege of Savannah" for Haiti's independence and renunciation of slavery - YES
H. Res. 960 - A resolution congratulating the National Football League champion New York Giants for winning Super Bowl XLII - YES
H.Con.Res.281 - Celebrating the birth of Abraham Lincoln and recognizing the prominence the Declaration of Independence played in the development of Abraham Lincoln's beliefs - YES
H.R. 3468 - To designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 1704 Weeksville Road in Elizabeth City, North Carolina, as the "Dr. Clifford Bell Jones, Sr. Post Office" - PASSED BY VOICE VOTE
H.R. 3532 - To designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 5815 McLeod Street in Lula, Georgia, as the "Private Johnathon Millican Lula Post Office." - PASSED BY VOICE VOTE
H.R. 4203 - Designates the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 3035 Stone Mountain Street in Lithonia, Georgia, as the "Jamaal RaShard Addison Post Office Building." - PASSED BY VOICE VOTE
H.R. 5135 - Designates the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 201 West Greenway Street in Derby, Kansas, as the "Sergeant Jamie O. Maugans Post Office Building." - PASSED BY VOICE VOTE
H.Res. 975- Expressing the condolences of the House of Representatives on the death of the Honorable Tom Lantos - PASSED BY VOICE VOTE
 
What an excellent representation of the change voted for in the "You're Fired!" campaign.

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RE: Predicting November Results - 3/5/2008 8:33:41 AM   
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Yes.  Those are all excellent examples.  I have made the point before that what is the point of passing a bill which will be vetoed by AnencephalyBoy, considering one has to use political capital to convince people to vote for it.

Care to provide a list of bills vetoed since that election?

Think outside the box.

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RE: Predicting November Results - 3/5/2008 8:47:33 AM   
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RE: Predicting November Results - 3/5/2008 9:25:15 AM   
Mercnbeth


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Yes.  Those are all excellent examples.  I have made the point before that what is the point of passing a bill which will be vetoed by AnencephalyBoy, considering one has to use political capital to convince people to vote for it.

Care to provide a list of bills vetoed since that election?

Think outside the box.
Sinergy

So the response of this great change we voted for is to not pass a bill at all?! Better to not pass a bill using the majority in power and let it be vetoed, providing a CLEAR and ON-RECORD reference point for this election? Better to use the majority to pass resolutions on quilting versus dealing with the issues that effected the majority change - Iraq, Energy, Economy? That represents leadership?

That has to be one of the most amusing posts you've ever made, and you end it with a request to research information supporting your position? Need a 'nanny' to research? Perhaps you should request a government entitlement program to help you. 
 
H.Con.Res. 209 - Expressing the sense of Congress that the Museum of the American Quilter's Society, located in Paducah, Kentucky, should be designated as the "National Quilt Museum of the United States" - PASSED BY VOICE VOTE
Congress Quilted - Soldiers Wilted"


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RE: Predicting November Results - 3/5/2008 9:51:27 AM   
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As of today - here's how I see it.

Senator Obama wins the Democratic nomination, Senator McCain wins the Republican nod. Prepare to start saying President McCain. All he has to do is say nothing, loss the two live debates without saying something totally stupid and use Senator Clinton's currently running campaign advertisements. It will be the largest landslide since Nixon v. McGovern.


And all Obama has to do is sit there during the debates, saying "Would you like to spend 100 years fighting a war in Iraq, or start bringing those troop home as soon as possible?"

Prepare for President Obama.

The ONLY way McCain has a chance is if Billary gets the nod. Republicans know this...that's why even Rush Limbaugh is urging Republicans to vote for Billary in the primaries. They know that if a charismatic guy like Obama gets the nod, McCain hasn't got a prayer.

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RE: Predicting November Results - 3/5/2008 9:52:52 AM   
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i find it amazing how obama is using the same advertisements as Hillary is............he's so good with words why can he come up with his own?

~meticulous~


Because by using the same, lame, fear-inducing ads as the bitch, he can show how ridiculous her tactics are and that her rhetoric is just that -- rhetoric. She's resorted to attacks and lame, "liar liar" ads and it's sickening.

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RE: Predicting November Results - 3/5/2008 9:57:30 AM   
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RE: Predicting November Results - 3/5/2008 10:34:02 AM   
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Senator McCain has consistantly spoken out against the use of torture.
 
He did vote against a bill specifically outlawing waterboarding as a method of interogation, but stated that he voted against it because it was already outlawed by default, not being approved for use in the Army Field Manual. In short, he was voting against a bill outlawing something that was already outlawed.
 
Keith Olbermann attempted to turn this vote in to a flip-flop, which is clearly wasn't.

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RE: Predicting November Results - 3/5/2008 6:20:53 PM   
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McCain -- He gets to be President for a term until it's time for his retirement. In large part, because he has Played Ball(TM) in the past, for example, when he didn't press too hard against Bush during *their* campaign cycle...

Clinton -- Why the hell do people call her staying in the Senate Seat for NY "Losing"... Fucking Wonderful... 6 more years of non-representation.

Obama -- "Lucky" as in "Lucky that his opponent's campaign melted-down". Luck doesn't get a freshman rep in the White House. He can stick around, make some money, and continue to play at the Big-Boys Table. As long as he Plays Ball(TM)

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RE: Predicting November Results - 3/5/2008 11:08:34 PM   
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So the response of this great change we voted for is to not pass a bill at all?!



I agree with your comment that Congress has not really stepped up to do what they were voted in to do, however, I can  understand why. 

From a hypothetical perspective:  I am a Congressperson.  I have to get X number of signatures or support from other Congresspeople.  I have to trade favors.  I have to make nice.  I have to agree to support Senator Biff's bill if Senator Biff supports my bill.  One hand washes the other.

Am I going to use up my favors getting Senator Biff to vote for a bill I know will be vetoed?

It would not make much sense the way the game is played in Washington, although people with a limited understanding of politics always seem more than willing to ignore or explain away the six years of the veto-proof and all-powerful Republican Congress doing worse than nothing, and focus on the newly Democratic although impotent Congress' failure to do anything.

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