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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 5:30:00 PM

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It's quite callouse sounding of me I know, but I feel if people insist on hurting themself and slowly killin themself by ignoreing dr's advice and refusing to get help, and refusing to do the simplest things to help themselves out, let them, and let the dr's spend the energies and efforts on people who want to take care of themselves, and are willing to help themselves out.
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*fast reply*
I know this girl from the Literotica forums, she has numerous mental and physical issues. People have tried to help her over there but she never listens. I am sorry for her but she needs to get off her butt and listen to her doctors

if that is you in your avatar...I'm sure your doctors have told you to lose weight, do you listen? Do you stop eating junk food? How is my situation any different?

Your situation is different because you invited strangers into your medical business. She didn't.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 5:34:56 PM

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well, maybe she shouldn't lecture someone if she isn't going to take her own advice. I bet I'm healthier than her. My cholesterol is low, my blood pressure runs around 90/60, my blood sugar is normal.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 5:35:37 PM

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Technically, it doesn't. For instance, if I said "refusal to maintain speed at or below the speed limit", it doesn't mean I'm currently speeding, it may mean on this road trip I was speeding but right now I'm at the speed limit.

If it meant underweight, it would say "at or below", not "refusal to maintain".

Cali

you have to have a BMI under 17.5 to be diagnosed with anorexia. Above 17.5 is EDNOS. unless you purge on a regular basis, then bulimia. Bulimia doesn't have a weight limit.

This entire debate is probably one of the more ridiculous threads I have read in my entire time here..
WHO THE FUCK CARES WHAT DIAGNOSIS YOUR BMI LEVEL INDICATES!! Why are you here trying to rationalize your behavior? It is not healthy behavior. PERIOD. You know this perfectly well. You are not going to get any pat on the back sympathy here. Every last person here has called you on your shit and you are trying to explain why you are justified in your behavior.
YOU ARE NOT. period. Fucking deal with it or make your peace with yourself and slowly kill yourself because obviously, you know best, right?

If you want to commisserate with "like" minded people, find one of those bulimic boards that give you "tips and tricks" and will agree with you on those asshole doctors..
But not here...

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 5:36:31 PM

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and there is no way your hip bones are going to show unless you lose like another 150+ pounds.

Get help. Antagonizing others is nothing more than a misdirection - a poor one at that. Simply do what your doctors tell you to do and be done with it.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 5:38:02 PM

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health issues are not a competitive sport.

it doesn't seem to matter what everyone is telling you: you are not well. physically, emotionally, psychologically...you are not well.

and having low cholesterol, normal bloodpressure, and normal blood sugar doesn't mean you haven't seriously damaged your internal organs from years of binging and purging.

my advice, since you won't listen: get over yourself, get hospitalized, and seek psychiatric treatment. the only quack in this situation is you.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 5:40:52 PM

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well, maybe she shouldn't lecture someone if she isn't going to take her own advice. I bet I'm healthier than her. My cholesterol is low, my blood pressure runs around 90/60, my blood sugar is normal.

She is taking her own advice.. that was the point of her whole post...She was trying to give you the benefit of her own experience.. and you think that telling her you don't think she is anorexic makes you better in some way?

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 5:43:18 PM

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Trying to tell me what I can and can't do and threatening to hospitalize me against my will. I have to see my doctor again Wednesday...he's the one who put me in the hospital last time...I passed out again last week and I was stupid to tell my nutritionist about it...I thought it might be like anemia or something and I could take iron and be done with it...but she wanted me to see the doctor...he'll probably do all kinds of blood work, electrolytes and everything...I was doing pretty well when I had a Dom but I'm not even about to give up control of my food and stuff to a doctor. *sighs* I wish I could just stop going to the doctors completely...it's not like they even help me...they just make it worse...

I agree..they should just let you spaz-out and die!

Is someone forcing you to go to doctors? Well, Damn them for caring and Damn those doctors for doing their job ! HOW DARE they be so INTRUSIVE in your life!

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 5:46:12 PM

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well, maybe she shouldn't lecture someone if she isn't going to take her own advice. I bet I'm healthier than her. My cholesterol is low, my blood pressure runs around 90/60, my blood sugar is normal.

She is taking her own advice.. that was the point of her whole post...She was trying to give you the benefit of her own experience.. and you think that telling her you don't think she is anorexic makes you better in some way?

that was another girl...and that girl said shes 285 lbs and eats an average of 2000 calories a day, THAT is not anorexic. Anorexia is restricting caloric intake (for example, 300 calories a day) and drastic weight loss to the point that you are under weight.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 5:47:13 PM

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oh and someone that is morbidly obese (285 lbs is) should NEVER eat 2500 calories in one day.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 5:48:46 PM

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Dollparts, I just want to kick you in the face. You have doctors and people who want you to get better, and all you wanna do is play the victim. Maybe they are taking over your life because they care? But you could care less about getting better judging from what I have skimmed through. So yea. Ignore the doctors orders and free up some oxygen for those of us who have a reason to live.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 5:49:01 PM

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well, maybe she shouldn't lecture someone if she isn't going to take her own advice. I bet I'm healthier than her. My cholesterol is low, my blood pressure runs around 90/60, my blood sugar is normal.

She's not whining about her doctors taking control of her life, though. You're making assumptions and attacking people who challenge you.

If you were the picture of health, your doctors wouldn't be trying to hospitalize you. Drop the paranoia and deal with your reality. Don't whine to strangers expecting them to support you, then get pissy and snarly when it doesn't happen. Don't make ad hominem attacks and expect to be taken seriously. It won't happen here.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 5:53:12 PM

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well, maybe she shouldn't lecture someone if she isn't going to take her own advice. I bet I'm healthier than her. My cholesterol is low, my blood pressure runs around 90/60, my blood sugar is normal.

She's not whining about her doctors taking control of her life, though. You're making assumptions and attacking people who challenge you.

If you were the picture of health, your doctors wouldn't be trying to hospitalize you. Drop the paranoia and deal with your reality. Don't whine to strangers expecting them to support you, then get pissy and snarly when it doesn't happen. Don't make ad hominem attacks and expect to be taken seriously. It won't happen here.

my main problem right now is that I'm not drinking enough...I drink like 500 ml a day usually...I try to drink more but it really makes me nauseous...I try to get it up to at least 1000 ml a day...but it's hard....and when I drink a lot, it's harder to eat...but like I get my protein in at least...I generally get like 60 g of protein a day...

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 6:06:11 PM

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Wow, this thread pretty much floored me.

I'm not going to judge you. I don't know you, I have no personal attachment to you, and therefore if you die from whatever disorder (physical or psychological) you have, I will not be affected in the least bit. Harsh, huh? But it's true. Nobody on these forums will call in sick to work or shed a tear over it. We're strangers. We can't possibly be in your skin or understand what's going through your mind.

Well. Maybe I can a little bit.

I've struggled with body image issues for most of my life. I've done it all -- extreme diets, binging/purging, abusing various substances to get to an ideal weight that kept going lower and lower and lower because I could never be skinny enough. I'm paying for it now, too. My weight is all kinds of fucked up and will probably never be normal again. I complained about being 118 pounds without exerting any effort whatsoever, convinced that I was morbidly obese. Now I'm 150 and fighting tooth and nail to get even to 135. Check that out, I'm fatter than when I started! AWESOME!

Not to mention the seizures and other health problems that have rendered me very nearly unable to do anything in my day-to-day life, but disability won't cover the rent check or the medical expenses I've incurred trying to undo the damage I did to myself. So I've got to struggle through an eight-hour work day despite the fact that I can barely function after two or three hours at a damn desk job, and my college plans have been delayed because I don't have the strength to attend school full-time. Everyone close to me in my life, including my darling fiance, has been taken for a roller coaster ride of watching me alternate between kind-of-okay and in a hospital bed near death, so there's the guilt over completely screwing with their lives and emotions because hey, I thought I was a porker! At 118 pounds! And the photos, oh God, the photos of me when I was at the peak of my delusion, where I look like a Holocaust victim with hollowed-out cheekbones and bags under my eyes and sticks for arms and legs! Where I thought I was the sexiest thing on two legs and actually went out in public looking absolutely disgusting! Yeah, that's totally the right choice for me!

None of that's going to have an effect on you, though. I know it won't. Because when people gave me the same speech, I called bullshit and told them that they didn't know me and to butt out.

So y'know what... I'm butting out. But I've said my piece, so my conscience is clear. You're a big girl -- if the 85 in your username signifies your birth year, you're actually two years older than me. An adult, really. Obviously whatever you decide is going to be the best for you.

Maybe not for your friends, your family, or your health... but at least you'll feel pretty, right?

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 6:09:15 PM

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Disability easily covers the bills...you don't need to live in a fancy apartment...move to low income housing...with SSI you get Medicaid...free medical care....plus a back pay check which is several thousand dollars to pay off any bills you may have.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 6:14:32 PM

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my main problem right now is that I'm not drinking enough...I drink like 500 ml a day usually...I try to drink more but it really makes me nauseous...I try to get it up to at least 1000 ml a day...but it's hard....and when I drink a lot, it's harder to eat...but like I get my protein in at least...I generally get like 60 g of protein a day...

You want to give us every detail about what you eat, what you drink and attack anyone who wants to help.
The doctors are wrong, we are wrong.

Every post you make tells us how much you know...but it doesn't answer why you should not be going to the hospital.

You aknowledge the damage you are doing to your body.

Your first post told how scared you were.

I am not sure what the point of this was unless you were hoping for a "Dom" with white knight syndrome to come to your defense when all these mean bad people told you how they saw it.
Maybe someone who could fix you?

The doctors may hospitalize you...but at some point you are going to have to deal with your core issues re: PTSD, food, control.
You have made it pretty clear that this is YOUR game and these are your rules...the problem is you aren't happy because you know it is unwin-able.

So once again... what do you want?

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 6:19:24 PM

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my main problem right now is that I'm not drinking enough...I drink like 500 ml a day usually...I try to drink more but it really makes me nauseous...I try to get it up to at least 1000 ml a day...but it's hard....and when I drink a lot, it's harder to eat...but like I get my protein in at least...I generally get like 60 g of protein a day...

You want to give us every detail about what you eat, what you drink and attack anyone who wants to help.

The doctors are wrong, we are wrong.

Every post you make tells us how much you know...but it doesn't answer why you should not be going to the hospital.

You aknowledge the damage you are doing to your body.

Your first post told how scared you were.

I am not sure what the point of this was unless you were hoping for a "Dom" with white knight syndrome to come to your defense when all these mean bad people told you how they saw it.
Maybe someone who could fix you?

The doctors may hospitalize you...but at some point you are going to have to deal with your core issues re: PTSD, food, control.
You have made it pretty clear that this is YOUR game and these are your rules...the problem is you aren't happy because you know it is unwin-able.

So once again... what do you want?

I think you have had enough attention.

Get some help.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 6:22:20 PM

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Disability easily covers the bills...you don't need to live in a fancy apartment...move to low income housing...with SSI you get Medicaid...free medical care....plus a back pay check which is several thousand dollars to pay off any bills you may have.

Lovely. Destroy yourself so that others can pay your way? Is that the future you want? doll, you are never going to receive any sort of pat on the back or pity party here on this site.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 6:23:20 PM

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Disability easily covers the bills...you don't need to live in a fancy apartment...move to low income housing...with SSI you get Medicaid...free medical care....plus a back pay check which is several thousand dollars to pay off any bills you may have.

You're right, I should let my past actions further fuck up my life and destroy my dreams by settling for the projects and shrugging it off as "My bad!" instead of taking responsibility for what I've done, even if it means having to work a little harder.

I honestly believe you're not a bad person, or a stupid person. I just don't get that vibe from you.

I do however get the impression that you're extremely depressed and have shit for self-esteem, whether or not you want to admit it. In fact, you're probably a really cute girl with a great personality who just doesn't see all the potential and gifts she's really got.

In short, try therapy. It will probably help you. However you likely won't go on your own and will end up getting Baker Acted anyway.

Said it in my previous post and I'll say it again -- completely up to you. Good luck in your endeavors.

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 6:26:16 PM

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I'm trying really hard to get well...it may not seem like it...but I am...I'm trying to eat more...but like my stomach is so messed up...I get really really bad indigestion and acid reflux...I puke up the food into my mouth and have to swallow it again (it's totally gross) I've cut out "bad foods" I eat low sodium (no canned foods, frozen meals etc) I don't eat sugar for the most part cept like fruits and no artifical sweeteners...not even diet soda...I don't eat processed meats (no sausage, pepperoni, hot dogs...etc) no fast food...not that I ever really did eat fast food much....I don't really eat that much meat anymore actually...like I eat fish sometimes...it's low cal, low fat, no carbs and has a ton of protein...I don't eat anything greasy b/c it really bothers my stomach...nothing spicy either...no peppers or onions...I can't really eat pasta sauce anymore either...makes me really sick...

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RE: My doctors are trying to take control of my life. - 2/26/2008 6:32:36 PM

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Disability easily covers the bills...you don't need to live in a fancy apartment...move to low income housing...with SSI you get Medicaid...free medical care....plus a back pay check which is several thousand dollars to pay off any bills you may have.

You're right, I should let my past actions further fuck up my life and destroy my dreams by settling for the projects and shrugging it off as "My bad!" instead of taking responsibility for what I've done, even if it means having to work a little harder.

I honestly believe you're not a bad person, or a stupid person. I just don't get that vibe from you.

I do however get the impression that you're extremely depressed and have shit for self-esteem, whether or not you want to admit it. In fact, you're probably a really cute girl with a great personality who just doesn't see all the potential and gifts she's really got.

In short, try therapy. It will probably help you. However you likely won't go on your own and will end up getting Baker Acted anyway.

Said it in my previous post and I'll say it again -- completely up to you. Good luck in your endeavors.

I'm going back to Day Treatment soon...which means I would be going out from 8 am until 4 pm most days...and having group therapy all day long...I used to go like two years ago but it got too overwhelming (I'm recovering from agoraphobia) and they used to have a volunteer group where they would go to the SPCA or food bank or something...which would be fun and get me used to going out...and they give you free gym membership to the YMCA so I can get off my lazy ass and try to strengthen my body (I'm really weak; bad knees, hips, ankles, back...) and then after I'm doing well there, I'm going to start vocational training...I'm thinking about going for a medical billing degree...my local doctors office you don't even have to see the patients in the medical billing department...so thats good...and I'm a fast typer and all...and it's only a few blocks away from where I live now so I can walk there. :)

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