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RE: Impossiable to reach sub space. - 9/24/2008 6:38:11 AM

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what is subs pace and is it like orgasm and a sexula part of bdsm?

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RE: Impossiable to reach sub space. - 9/24/2008 7:33:46 AM

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I am baffled about the amount of people that reach what they call sub space and then when they come out they need blankets and food and be cuddled otherwise they might be in shock or something...why is this? I understand reaching a perfect 'head' space and get the feeling of flying...anybody might get there, Dom, sub and, dare i say it? yes even vanilla people!!! it is a state of total relaxation of body and mind...any very good massage (can be totally non sexual or bdsm ish) can get anyone who is open to it there...and i agree that one likes to come around slowly and lovingly maybe covered with a towel and take some time before you start running around again...but why the drama? Unless ofcourse your body was severely beaten while your mind was flying elsewhere but surely you would come around earlier if you were taking such abuse?

Also does any one know of anybody who did not bother coming back?

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RE: Impossiable to reach sub space. - 9/24/2008 8:20:16 AM

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I am baffled about the amount of people that reach what they call sub space and then when they come out they need blankets and food and be cuddled otherwise they might be in shock or something...why is this? I understand reaching a perfect 'head' space and get the feeling of flying...anybody might get there, Dom, sub and, dare i say it? yes even vanilla people!!! it is a state of total relaxation of body and mind...any very good massage (can be totally non sexual or bdsm ish) can get anyone who is open to it there...and i agree that one likes to come around slowly and lovingly maybe covered with a towel and take some time before you start running around again...but why the drama? Unless ofcourse your body was severely beaten while your mind was flying elsewhere but surely you would come around earlier if you were taking such abuse?

Also does any one know of anybody who did not bother coming back?

And you don't think a marathoner needs warmth for the muscles, food and water when they cross the finish line? We're talking about expending a lot of body and brain chemicals here. Lactic acid build up in muscles. Exhaustion of stores of serotonin, oxytocin, blood sugar etc.

Of course this produces a mild shock like state requiring warmth, and liquid and some quick sugar.

Headspace is one thing, subspace is something else.

Not to mention that people who have been bound are suffering from diminished circulation of blood which makes them cold.

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RE: Impossiable to reach sub space. - 9/24/2008 8:44:13 AM

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Ta for the info and do you think the marathoner reaches sub space?
I still wonder why people do not get out of subspace earlier if their bodies indeed get so seriously assulted, that seems to me just a normal survival reaction...i mean if they are flying like that in such an abusive situation what good is any safe word? it is not like all Doms can be trusted to know what they're doing.
I still think there is too much drama about the subspace phemomena

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RE: Impossiable to reach sub space. - 9/24/2008 9:21:56 AM

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My experience thus far has not been any sort of "abusive situation" as you speak of in your post. Sure, there is pain, but it is sensual and loving and I endure it for Her. I have twice been in a situation where I simply could not stop shaking and was very out of my head during and for several minutes following a play session. That definitely required soothing treatment and comforting to get it to stop, hell just walking was a challenge. I have to say it was wonderful...

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RE: Impossiable to reach sub space. - 9/24/2008 9:57:15 AM

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I know it is wonderful and i also dig the pain...I think my problem is with the term subspace...asif it is a special place only subbies get to go to.
I have shaken, I have been 'out of it' I have had pins and needles in my brain if that is a description any body recognises, I also almost flew and i am sure i will really at some time ...I also have taken my Master 'out of it'
I do not understand the term subspace or why it is different from headspace, it is just a beautiful feeling, sort of a trance...i do think tho that you come out of it when things are wrong pretty quick, but maybe i am wrong...

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RE: Impossiable to reach sub space. - 9/24/2008 10:14:35 PM

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I've never experienced what people usually describe as subspace, but honestly - I couldn't care less. My subby pleasure comes from that wonderful headspace where the ego's stripped away and everything narrows down to the desire to please and serve. It's blissful, better than sex. And anyway, the idea of taking so much pain it drives me into an endorphin-fueled trance seems really unappealing and scary to me.

So basically what I'm trying to say is, don't worry about it. BDSM is a very individual thing. You might be able to get to subspace with a diffirent circumstance or person, or you might not. You might also find it's not something you need or want. It's okay.

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RE: Impossiable to reach sub space. - 9/25/2008 6:09:08 PM

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There is another thread going about reaching sub space, but I was with my ex once and he told me that I wasnt the type of girl that could reach subspace. Then I sat there and thought about it, and I never had reached subspace in 2 1/2 years of playing.

Are there just some people who cannot seem to reach it?

Thanks for the input!
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wow, so your ex is physic? perhaps he was just upset because in the 2 1/2 years you were playing with HIM, you didn't reach sub-space!

now i won't claim to be the all knowing authority of shit in this department, but the one thing i do know for sure is how it is with me:

i can't reach subspace unless i'm completely free in my mind as well as my body; where the top has my complete focus and nothing else, such as a bad day, wishing he would do something else, etc., can interfere with my 'feeling' and my ability to 'just be.'

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