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Hard limits or health - 2/27/2008 12:37:56 AM   
sub4sub123


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Status: offline 		One of my hard limits is anything that would interfere with my health.  This would include physical and psychological health.  One of the things that my Master wants me to do is switch back and forth between vaginal and anal sex.  I have been prone to UTI and just recently I recovered from a really bad kidney infection derived from a UTI.  From what I have read, and what the doctors have told me this would be a very bad idea. Is it really a hard limit or just a necessary precaution?  
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RE: Hard limits or health - 2/27/2008 2:43:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		This is a REALLY bad idea.

It's a REALLY REALLY  bad idea.

I rarely make judgment calls on what other people choose to do  but MAN!!

That's a REALLY REALLY REALLY   bad idea!!!

I had other things I was going to say, but honestly.... take care of yourself. In the end, you're the one who has to deal with the ramifications of play like that, so take care of yourself.

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RE: Hard limits or health - 2/27/2008 3:40:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		He's gonna have to clean himself before 'going there' after 'going back there' a quick google search should answer your question sufficiently.
(not to hi-jack, but, why oh why do these 'masters' require things that are obviously going to harm their toys' health and/or well-being?)

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RE: Hard limits or health - 2/27/2008 3:50:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		i think you need to ask yourself first and how much you really want to still be as an active healthy and thus useful submissive..

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RE: Hard limits or health - 2/27/2008 3:56:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sub4sub123

One of my hard limits is anything that would interfere with my health.  This would include physical and psychological health.  One of the things that my Master wants me to do is switch back and forth between vaginal and anal sex.  I have been prone to UTI and just recently I recovered from a really bad kidney infection derived from a UTI.  From what I have read, and what the doctors have told me this would be a very bad idea. Is it really a hard limit or just a necessary precaution?  


If he is willing to do serious harm to you, either he is borderline psychotic, or a dumbass, IMO. I say, you need to value your health, and life.

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RE: Hard limits or health - 2/27/2008 4:00:00 AM   
lusciouslips19


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Status: offline 		There is only one way to do that. If you do not use condoms because you are in a monogamous relationship or you use condoms with others but not together, this is what you do. You have a box of condoms. Anal sex- condom on, go to vaginal, condom comes off, back to anal-condom on, back to vaginal, whip condom off. Obviously if you use condoms for both types of sex than you would be putting on a fresh condom for vaginal, then a new one for anal. Either that or he goes to the bathroom and cleans himself off well before reentering your vagina.

That is what a responsible Master does.

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RE: Hard limits or health - 2/27/2008 5:15:11 AM   
angelikaJ


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Status: offline 		He needs to educate himself as to how dangerous that is.


If it is ignorance on his part and he is willing to research it and comes to understand why it is a NO...not just for you but for anyone that is fine.
If he does not understand the dangers of that practice and continues to give you a hard time about it then I would find someone who is not going to put you into harm's way.

In my opinion if he does not care about your health and well-being you need to go... .


You only have 2 kidneys...there are other Masters.

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RE: Hard limits or health - 2/27/2008 5:17:50 AM   
angelikaJ


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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

There is only one way to do that. If you do not use condoms because you are in a monogamous relationship or you use condoms with others but not together, this is what you do. You have a box of condoms. Anal sex- condom on, go to vaginal, condom comes off, back to anal-condom on, back to vaginal, whip condom off. Obviously if you use condoms for both types of sex than you would be putting on a fresh condom for vaginal, then a new one for anal. Either that or he goes to the bathroom and cleans himself off well before reentering your vagina.

That is what a responsible Master does.


I wouldn't even be comfortable with that... the chances of bacteria traveling to his pubic hair via lube is pretty high and as his bits rub her bits....

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RE: Hard limits or health - 2/27/2008 5:26:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Its arrogant, egotistical and blatantly stupid on the part of your Master----
 
hmmm hard limit? oh hell yeah.

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RE: Hard limits or health - 2/27/2008 5:50:43 AM   
TheAwfulTruth


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Status: offline 		Thats a total nono, even I know that and IM a guy!

As I understand it, you should even wipe front to back when youve been to the toilet, our intestines/colon are full of bacteria (around two pounds of bacteria believe it or not) and while its good in there, its bad anywhere else.

If he's not willing to pick a hole and stick to it, find someone a bit more decisive :)



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RE: Hard limits or health - 2/27/2008 6:18:20 AM   
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If he's not willing to pick a hole and stick to it, find someone a bit more decisive :)


There's nothing wrong with being indecisive and wanting to use all holes.  He just needs to figure out a better order of hole usage.


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RE: Hard limits or health - 2/27/2008 6:26:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHathor

Its arrogant, egotistical and blatantly stupid on the part of your Master----
 
hmmm hard limit? oh hell yeah.
Agreed. Now, I have done it a few times, way back over 30 years ago when health risks weren't really known about many prectices, but I would never do it now. For me, anal is about dominance, and vaginal sex is about bonding (chemicals in seminal fluid relax and improve women's moods). I don't mix the two, and I like my women to clean themselves out prior to assplay anyway..

I would like to have a Bidet in my bath, but there isn't enough space in the current layout. I have a long hose on my shower massage, and I clean myself that way. I'll use TP when there's no alternative.

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RE: Hard limits or health - 2/27/2008 6:27:22 AM   
Jeffff


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Status: offline 		Better yet, to decisively use all the holes!.....in the correct order..::)

Jeff

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RE: Hard limits or health - 2/27/2008 6:36:50 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

quote:

If he's not willing to pick a hole and stick to it, find someone a bit more decisive :)


There's nothing wrong with being indecisive and wanting to use all holes.  He just needs to figure out a better order of hole usage.



Ditto that.


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RE: Hard limits or health - 2/27/2008 7:36:11 AM   
angelikaJ


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHathor

Its arrogant, egotistical and blatantly stupid on the part of your Master----
 
hmmm hard limit? oh hell yeah.
Agreed. Now, I have done it a few times, way back over 30 years ago when health risks weren't really known about many prectices, but I would never do it now. For me, anal is about dominance, and vaginal sex is about bonding (chemicals in seminal fluid relax and improve women's moods).




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RE: Hard limits or health - 2/27/2008 7:45:50 AM   
sublizzie


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Status: offline 		The first rule is "protect the property". If he isn't willing to do the protecting then you need to do it. Whatever method makes the most sense to you to keep yourself healthy is what needs to happen. If he's not willing to keep you healthy, do you really want to be with him?

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RE: Hard limits or health - 2/27/2008 9:20:59 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: julietsierra

This is a REALLY bad idea.

It's a REALLY REALLY  bad idea.

I rarely make judgment calls on what other people choose to do  but MAN!!

That's a REALLY REALLY REALLY   bad idea!!!

I had other things I was going to say, but honestly.... take care of yourself. In the end, you're the one who has to deal with the ramifications of play like that, so take care of yourself.

juliet


What she said X5.

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RE: Hard limits or health - 2/27/2008 9:22:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Health IS a hard limit. No negotiation, no power struggle. Hard limit - period - end of report, or end of relationship.

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RE: Hard limits or health - 2/27/2008 9:28:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm thinking put on all the condoms in the box, then peel one off with each change of... location. 

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RE: Hard limits or health - 2/27/2008 10:15:58 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

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ORIGINAL: lusciouslips19

There is only one way to do that. If you do not use condoms because you are in a monogamous relationship or you use condoms with others but not together, this is what you do. You have a box of condoms. Anal sex- condom on, go to vaginal, condom comes off, back to anal-condom on, back to vaginal, whip condom off. Obviously if you use condoms for both types of sex than you would be putting on a fresh condom for vaginal, then a new one for anal. Either that or he goes to the bathroom and cleans himself off well before reentering your vagina.

That is what a responsible Master does.


I wouldn't even be comfortable with that... the chances of bacteria traveling to his pubic hair via lube is pretty high and as his bits rub her bits....



Well geez, I respect your opinion but sex is not a sterile thing. You could wear a condom for oral sex too. But I believe you are minimizing risk .Its impossible to eliminate all and if you did, it wouldnt be very fun. I respect your opinion, I just personally dont get that finiky.

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