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Leatherist -> RE: Hard limits or health (2/27/2008 7:40:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sub4sub123 One of my hard limits is anything that would interfere with my health. This would include physical and psychological health. One of the things that my Master wants me to do is switch back and forth between vaginal and anal sex. I have been prone to UTI and just recently I recovered from a really bad kidney infection derived from a UTI. From what I have read, and what the doctors have told me this would be a very bad idea. Is it really a hard limit or just a necessary precaution? It's common sense, especially after watching you struggle with a fever.potential shut down of,or permanent damge to, the urinary system,death,etc.......all the lovely things that result from a kidney infection. The only question left is-does he have any? [&:] It's certainly not something I would do-but I can learn from a mistake.

servantheart -> RE: Hard limits or health (2/27/2008 8:26:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sub4sub123 One of my hard limits is anything that would interfere with my health. This would include physical and psychological health. One of the things that my Master wants me to do is switch back and forth between vaginal and anal sex. I have been prone to UTI and just recently I recovered from a really bad kidney infection derived from a UTI. From what I have read, and what the doctors have told me this would be a very bad idea. Is it really a hard limit or just a necessary precaution? Your "Master" sounds like a selfish lout. Tell him you'll switch between vaginal and anal just as soon as he allows you to use him as a human toilet.

celticlord2112 -> RE: Hard limits or health (2/27/2008 8:27:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx Hey everyone! Look up there!!! It's a normal, thinking, reasonable Dom! [sm=applause.gif][sm=flowers.gif][sm=mrpuffy.gif] What? Where?

celticlord2112 -> RE: Hard limits or health (2/27/2008 8:29:07 PM)
quote: Your "Master" sounds like a selfish lout. Tell him you'll switch between vaginal and anal just as soon as he allows you to use him as a human toilet. Strange you should mention that.....http://www.collarchat.com/m_1661955/tm.htm

sub4sub123 -> RE: Hard limits or health (2/27/2008 10:43:02 PM)
Oh no question it is a bad idea! I think it is mostly ignorance of health consequences on his part, or maybe just a fantasy. In either case I am able to put limitations on items that affect my health. Thank you all for your comments.

MasterDoc1 -> RE: Hard limits or health (2/27/2008 11:01:06 PM)
I have a suggestion based on both my experience and my MD. Offer him ass to MOUTH to vagina. Use plenty of spit and lick it totally clean. Generally that would work fine; I've had subs do that without a problem. And it can be HOT also. But of course I agree with everyone else about straight ass to vagina.

LPslittleclip -> RE: Hard limits or health (2/28/2008 3:33:57 AM)
i agree with the health aspect. if your dominate rely cares for you than he should take into account cleanliness. if you and your partner like all the holes than discuss ways to accommodate that. condoms are a great one. since you have had a kidney infection your more likely to get another and worse kidney failure, and dialysis is not pleasant. think about your health.

Sundowner -> RE: Hard limits or health (2/28/2008 4:05:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sweetwenchie echoing every single responder here... bad idea, BAD BAD BAD! Oral to vaginal, good. Vaginal to mouth even better. Vaginal to anal, loads of fun. Anal to vaginal... high risk of UTI and yeast infections. (pardon my mood today, too much caffeine!) [sm=applause.gif] [sm=applause.gif] [sm=applause.gif] Hey! Your caffeine mood produces good results. Don't stop (but maybe try a cigarette too - could be even better).

Sundowner -> RE: Hard limits or health (2/28/2008 4:12:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterDoc1 I have a suggestion based on both my experience and my MD. Offer him ass to MOUTH to vagina. Use plenty of spit and lick it totally clean. Generally that would work fine; I've had subs do that without a problem. And it can be HOT also. But of course I agree with everyone else about straight ass to vagina. Oooops - not for everyone - try "yucky" instead of HOT in the above (and I'm not even the one whose mouth is involved - but my sub is and yucky for me means sorry, she has a new hard limit). [:'(]

littleone35 -> RE: Hard limits or health (2/28/2008 11:56:43 AM)
It is dangerous if Master wants to go from my ass to my vagina he has me get a washcloth and soap and clean him off first (i agree ass to mouth is yucky) Master would never do that. I don't care how clean you are there is bacatria there that is supposed to be there but not supposed to be in your vagina. I would not do it it is too dangerous. Matt's littleone

flyingwind66 -> RE: Hard limits or health (3/1/2008 1:29:25 PM)
erm... ass to mouth isn't just 'yucky' ... THAT is a health risk too...

81song -> RE: Hard limits or health (3/2/2008 8:26:24 AM)
In one word I would say, No, only because of the health issues here and that comes frist. As of sub you deserve that and your top should know that too.

sweettartare -> RE: Hard limits or health (3/2/2008 11:27:19 AM)
Quick question.... would doing several cleansing enemas first work?

defiantbadgirl -> RE: Hard limits or health (3/2/2008 11:52:15 AM)
I wouldn't risk it unless the pain of vaginal scraping is something you enjoy.

celticlord2112 -> RE: Hard limits or health (3/2/2008 12:01:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sweettartare Quick question.... would doing several cleansing enemas first work? An enema which would purge the intestinal flora would create a whole new set of health risks. Some ideas are just basically bad, and are best discarded.

katie978 -> RE: Hard limits or health (3/2/2008 3:40:16 PM)
Hopefully the OP gets the point here and doesn't allow her dom to bully her into doing something that's potentially very, very unhealthy for her. Pushing limits is one thing, pushing limits like "Nothing hazardous to my health" is a completely different thing. Also, hopefully above-mentioned dom just happened to be completely clueless as to the risks of such an activity and wasn't trying to demand something so bad for her. Send him this thread, OP, and if he still pushes the issue...

junecleaver -> RE: Hard limits or health (3/2/2008 5:23:12 PM)
Whether or not to make it a limit is a moot point for me because my Dominant will always put my overall health before his fantasies. Maybe your Dominant just doesn't know it's unhealthy? Men (and women) can be clueless, particularly regarding the female anatomy. I overheard some guys at work talking the other day about 'the clit' and from what I overheard easedropping, they are under the impression it's actually the vulva and the guy called his girlfriend's 'hairy.' How they have sex and know so little about it is beyond me....but not the point. Don't rule out ignorance or assume he has malicious intentions. Just talk about the risks and decide what's right for you.

meticulousgirl -> RE: Hard limits or health (3/2/2008 6:45:48 PM)
ummm no...UTI's are not cool, and until He has to deal with one, Dom or no Dom it wouldn't be happening (oh i guess that's never then) ~meticulous~

Leatherist -> RE: Hard limits or health (3/2/2008 6:47:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: celticlord2112 quote: ORIGINAL: sweettartare Quick question.... would doing several cleansing enemas first work? An enema which would purge the intestinal flora would create a whole new set of health risks. Some ideas are just basically bad, and are best discarded. Pretty much so. Replacing one bad idea, to try and get around something else being a bad idea is just stupidity times two.

meticulousgirl -> RE: Hard limits or health (3/2/2008 6:48:24 PM)
and for those of you who asked i dont think the enema idea would work, i originally posted the same question and did a quick search...the answer is no.....there is still bacteria that shouldn't go from one area to the other... ~meticulous~

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