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Cradyn -> Bribery? Maybe? (2/28/2008 6:32:57 AM)

Okay I have another question i've decided to bring up while these "pampering" and "Spoiled Rotten" threads are up...

I've noticed something about a few potential tops/doms/Masters out there(Havn't noticed this about women yet). Sometimes i'll be talking to one, and he'll start bringing up all this stuff he bought his last Boy or sub. I recently had one who talked about his Former sub alot, And he seemed to love to bring up facts about how he bought him 250$ of new cloths, a car, everything. Then went on to state that while a sub is under his care, he takes care of almost everything.

What i'm curious about is, is this a normal thing? For Tops/Doms to use something like "I'll spend all this money on you for your obedience". Or are these guys just typically trying to win me over with money?

I'm also curious about what some of your responces to someone talking about doing all this before, would be. As in...if you were talking to a Top and they started bringing up all this "bribery" type stuff into chat.




Dnomyar -> RE: Bribery? Maybe? (2/28/2008 6:45:43 AM)

If your on here long enough you will get those type of offers. Makes no difference if your  submissive or a Dom/Domme.




OmegaG -> RE: Bribery? Maybe? (2/28/2008 6:46:44 AM)

you don't even have to be either, you just have to be human.  There are those that think that money buys everything.




junecleaver -> RE: Bribery? Maybe? (2/28/2008 6:48:30 AM)

I think it's fairly common.  Particularly on the internet where no one can tell if they are even capable of coming through with those bribes.  It's been proposed to me many times.  Depending on how it's delievered it can be anything from hot to digusting to flattering.




SirMIkeSD -> RE: Bribery? Maybe? (2/28/2008 7:12:27 AM)

Sure as hell, no one is going to get that type of offer from me.

Mike





ProlificNeeds -> RE: Bribery? Maybe? (2/28/2008 7:14:54 AM)

For some people it's not so much bribery as a symbolism (to them) of their financial success and money-muscle. They like to flex it to impress. Sort of how one might brag about how uuuuuuber they are at single tail, or how god-like they are at making subs orgasm, or whatever. It's still bragging, but to their mind they're trying to draw attention to an appealing trait they offer.




RedMagic1 -> RE: Bribery? Maybe? (2/28/2008 7:26:47 AM)

Some people don't see what else they have to offer.




Reform -> RE: Bribery? Maybe? (2/28/2008 7:37:48 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Cradyn
What i'm curious about is, is this a normal thing? For Tops/Doms to use something like "I'll spend all this money on you for your obedience". Or are these guys just typically trying to win me over with money?


Well I know for us, it's not a bribe for obedience; It's just the situation we're in. He has a job while I'm still in school, etc. He took care of me like this when we were vanilla, why should that change now that we're getting into D/s?

I didn't even think about someone trying to bribe another. I have seen it from Dommes who expect tributes to play with you, but I suspect that's a cover for payment like you'd pay a pro at a club.




sambamanslilgirl -> RE: Bribery? Maybe? (2/28/2008 7:42:08 AM)

i have yet to meet a dominant who would talk about the things and/or other stuff bought for a former submissive. if they spent all this money on the former, why did that prior relationship fail?


and for the record - Daddy's spoiling me is in no way a bribe to obtain obedience from me. it's a mutual occurrence between us in which i appreciate each and every gift He gives me.




lauren0221 -> RE: Bribery? Maybe? (2/28/2008 7:43:33 AM)

It's a red flag for me. Am looking for more than stuff out of this. If that's putting their best foot forward, it's a no for me.




Aileen1968 -> RE: Bribery? Maybe? (2/28/2008 7:50:18 AM)

Oh hell no.  I had to go dutch on the room and I was required to bring lunch.




LadyHathor -> RE: Bribery? Maybe? (2/28/2008 7:57:35 AM)

I am very clear about financial expectations, it seems because I am well educated, make a decent salary and own horses, I am looked at as a golden ticket.
 
My submissive will have to work at least part time to offset expenses and that will be clearly delineated, I want a partner to some degree not a sponge. I do not use money as a motivator and the first time a new sub asks, " will i have to work?"--They get the bye bye.
 
I'm a means to an end in a loving D/s relationship--I am not the welfare system.




chiaThePet -> RE: Bribery? Maybe? (2/28/2008 8:10:07 AM)

Feel free to email me the proper connections to these "Masters Of Money".

Also, if anyone has the list of names and phone numbers of known
obscene phone callers and the best hours in which to reach them,
I'd be equally delighted.

chia* (the pet)




Sirandlil1 -> RE: Bribery? Maybe? (2/28/2008 8:29:52 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

Feel free to email me the proper connections to these "Masters Of Money".

Also, if anyone has the list of names and phone numbers of known
obscene phone callers and the best hours in which to reach them,
I'd be equally delighted.

chia* (the pet)




chia*...you are one sick puppy or is that pet???  lol   [:D][:D][:D]




CalifChick -> RE: Bribery? Maybe? (2/28/2008 8:34:28 AM)

Sure, send me a car.  I'm shallow and easy. 

Cali




rubberpet -> RE: Bribery? Maybe? (2/28/2008 8:34:32 AM)

My first owner sort of did things like that for me, but it was done out of love, not because it was a bribe.  She and I were in love and we'd buy each other things as any couple would.  I certainly don't want to be financially rewarded for pleasing my domme.  Mistress doesn't have to buy me extravagant things.  In fact, it's little things that won my heart.  She made me homemade candy, She sends me little care packages with all sorts of sweets and goodies in them, and She sends me cards and loveletters.  I certainly don't expect and will not let anyone pay my bills.  I work for what I want and need.  I didn't get a college degree for nothing.

If a dominant has to spend money on me to "earn" my submission or obedience, chances are I'm not choosing to submit to them for a reason.  My submission is not for sale.




RCdc -> RE: Bribery? Maybe? (2/28/2008 8:46:17 AM)

It depends.
Are they suggesting that if you submit they will buy you x,y,z which is akin to prostitution or they are just letting you know they are able to provide for you, should you have those 'needs'.  It can be a status thing.  Or it could be they are used to materialistic people, or are materialistic themselves - in which case you just have decide if thats the kind of person you want to submit to.  Only you can tell in which bracket they fit.
 
If it was someone I was casually talking to, I would tell them that it didnt impress me and that although gifts make me smile - I am not materialistic and 'things' don't do it for me.  If I was in a relationship and we were discussing past relationship, I consider that to just be simple exchange of information - if it becomes mentioned too often, then it would grate on me a bit and I would simply explain that it made me uncomfortable.
 
the.dark.




Cradyn -> RE: Bribery? Maybe? (2/28/2008 8:54:30 AM)

I've taken to just telling them, "I dont' want to hear about what you can provide for me in terms of materialistic things. Tell me instead, how you will treat me. How will you care for me in a general loving sense." I don't mind recieving things from those i'm around. I tend not to like recieving them, but it's not a bad thing. I prefer however, not to know about it. If someone wants to go out and buy me a car after i've been with them a year. Sure thats fine, but at that point. It would be out of love. Not out of desire of me.




RCdc -> RE: Bribery? Maybe? (2/28/2008 9:18:17 AM)

I don't know if this is a good example, but it's something I struggled with.  Because Darcy wanted me to be safe when I travelled to him and because he wanted to see me, he would not allow me to buy an unreliable car and gave me additional fund to that which I already had, so that I had what he determined to be safer transport.  It was very, very hard for me to accept his gift as it felt as though I could get something less - but as Darcy explained, my safety was more important and it would mean he would worry less when I drive so far because the car is more reliable and better built than an old tin can.  Darcy did not want that added stress.  If I submit to him, then I must obey him and accept that he knows what is best for me.  If I had refused, then I would have been refusing to submit and caused drama in his life he didn't want - does that make sense?  What he did wasn't a bribe, but what it allowed and encouraged was submission.
 
the.dark.




Cradyn -> RE: Bribery? Maybe? (2/28/2008 9:22:44 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

I don't know if this is a good example, but it's something I struggled with.  Because Darcy wanted me to be safe when I travelled to him and because he wanted to see me, he would not allow me to buy an unreliable car and gave me additional fund to that which I already had, so that I had what he determined to be safer transport.  It was very, very hard for me to accept his gift as it felt as though I could get something less - but as Darcy explained, my safety was more important and it would mean he would worry less when I drive so far because the car is more reliable and better built than an old tin can.  Darcy did not want that added stress.  If I submit to him, then I must obey him and accept that he knows what is best for me.  If I had refused, then I would have been refusing to submit and caused drama in his life he didn't want - does that make sense?  What he did wasn't a bribe, but what it allowed and encouraged was submission.
 
the.dark.

 
That was an excellant example :)
 
Sometimes however. there is a much finer line between what thier doing to be in the best care towards the sub. And literally bribing the potential sub into being thiers by offering Tokens(I hate that word lol)




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