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RE: Obama: What the Fuck is the Difference? - 2/29/2008 5:53:10 PM   
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What I find amusing as hell about the anti-Obama crowd is easily summed up as follows.

1)  They object to him because he lacks experience in Washington and wont be able to do anything good.

2)  They worry about his lack of experience making him do bad things.

Yet they cannot explain how these opposite ends of a dichotomy can actually exist in the same candidate.

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RE: Obama: What the Fuck is the Difference? - 2/29/2008 5:59:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Having a commander in chief who is not part of "the good old boy network" is what they are objecting to..He could fuck up thier games. But they can't say that, or it would encourage the public to vote for him.

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RE: Obama: What the Fuck is the Difference? - 2/29/2008 6:03:35 PM   
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The terrorist for those with a lisp.

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RE: Obama: What the Fuck is the Difference? - 2/29/2008 6:20:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Leatherist

Having a commander in chief who is not part of "the good old boy network" is what they are objecting to..He could fuck up thier games. But they can't say that, or it would encourage the public to vote for him.


I agree with you, but it misses the point.

He cant both be politically impotent and a horrid danger to the political landscape at the same time.

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RE: Obama: What the Fuck is the Difference? - 2/29/2008 6:21:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		       I don't know if I'm anti-Obama or not, Sinergy.  I'm anti-koolaid though, and that seems to be enough to make me the worst of the worst on other topics.

       What dichotomy?  Perhaps you could explain what is mutually exclusive about a person of very limited experience and possibly a dangerously naive worldview being both unable to accomplish the positive goals he sets for himself, and making bad crisis decisions because of that same flawed social paradigm?

       I'm sure your response will clear any misunderstanding.

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RE: Obama: What the Fuck is the Difference? - 2/29/2008 6:26:58 PM   
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     I'm sure your response will clear any misunderstanding.



George W. Bush.

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Editted to point out that John McCain is simply a repeat of George W. Bush


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RE: Obama: What the Fuck is the Difference? - 2/29/2008 6:34:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

George W. Bush.




           Yes.   Republicans baa-aaad.  "Monkeyboy."  I'm quite clear on that aspect of your logical conclusions.

        My question was how is Obama's theoretical inability to move major legislation through Congress and into law in any way negated by his theoretical poor decisions as CIC?  What dichotomy?

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RE: Obama: What the Fuck is the Difference? - 2/29/2008 8:35:44 PM   
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You want change.




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RE: Obama: What the Fuck is the Difference? - 2/29/2008 11:32:51 PM   
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RE: Obama: What the Fuck is the Difference? - 3/1/2008 12:38:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		          To be fair, Popeye, catch him after 3:30 in the afternoon and Ted Kennedy probably can't pronounce his own name.

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RE: Obama: What the Fuck is the Difference? - 3/1/2008 5:13:05 AM   
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http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/02222008/watch.html

this link denotes how campagne contributers happens within days of ear marks [govt ordering stuff it may or may NOT need!]
this has run a muck.

it needs to stop. so ideas?  lets make it stop.



If we could somehow reverse the court’s decision that money = speech, we could go a long way toward getting our government back.  Since that decision, we’ve been moving more and more toward a system where money is the only way to be heard. 

I don't think anything will be done to change this, though.  No one in a position to do anything about it will want to threaten their own political existence (or their gravy train).  Look at the heat they take for suggesting even modest changes in campaign funding.

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RE: Obama: What the Fuck is the Difference? - 3/1/2008 5:49:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

      To be fair, Popeye, catch him after 3:30 in the afternoon and Ted Kennedy probably can't pronounce his own name.


The POTUS can`t pronounce any words at any point of the day.

What`s his excuse?

7th graders could do a better job of running things.

Proof that w/ even a Yale degree and  Governorship experience doesn`t guarantee success.

Has Mr Obama ruined a baseball team(Bush) along with another company(Bush`s oil co.)or gotten  favors and special consideration b/c of family connections?

Actually Mr. Obama has some decent,though humble accomplishments and he has integrity.

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McCain want`s us to stay in Iraq forever.

And wants to get us into another catastrophe by attacking Iran.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAzBxFaio1I

Listen to the blow hard douche bag questioner.He and McCain (though experienced) are what we have now.
The neo-con policies and their judgment are the problem.

The Democrats don`t have an experience problem,...but the republicans do have a judgment problem.

Bush and the neo-cons are proof that the job requires good sound judgment and curiosity.Not dogma and tunnel vision.






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RE: Obama: What the Fuck is the Difference? - 3/1/2008 5:55:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		       Just a word to the wise, O59, if the Dem campaign is going to be based on nothing but the same old Bush hatred and trying to use big words without understanding what they mean, then the Democrats are going to lose once again.

      But that's ok.  Ya'll can blame Ralph again.

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RE: Obama: What the Fuck is the Difference? - 3/1/2008 6:07:09 AM   
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Doesn't mean that any particular candidate can't try to make some difference, but it won't be the Hollywood scripted magic that the some people seem to think is meant by 'change'.

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RE: Obama: What the Fuck is the Difference? - 3/1/2008 6:17:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

         To be fair, Popeye, catch him after 3:30 in the afternoon and Ted Kennedy probably can't pronounce his own name.

LMAO!

hmm a prez "who [is] sane"

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RE: Obama: What the Fuck is the Difference? - 3/1/2008 6:46:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: Muttling

Bill Clinton........He shut down the Federal Government and sent all "non-essential" employees home to MAKE congress come up with a balanced budget.  



Out here in California we (the voters) have put into place two laws.

1)  The budget must be balanced.  The Governator did the shut down the government thing too.  Good for him.

2)  The state government cannot borrow money to balance the budget.

The rest of you people should try this in your states. 

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Actually, we don't really need to here in Arkansas. We've had budget surpluses for the last few cycles. It's a leftover from when Clinton was in office here as Governor. Still, when I hear about one third of the states are teetering on the verge of bankruptcy, it makes me wonder... how many of them are "red" states?

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RE: Obama: What the Fuck is the Difference? - 3/1/2008 7:06:45 AM   
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no one candidate is going to walk in and reform the place overnight. 



           Very true, Alum.  The Obamaniacs who think winning the general election is the end of the battle are in for a sad surprise.  We shouldn't discount the power of a genuine mandate (as opposed to the self-declared ones) from the voters though.  Barry in the White House would rattle the foundations from Day 1.

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RE: Obama: What the Fuck is the Difference? - 3/1/2008 8:10:42 AM   
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Actually, we don't really need to here in Arkansas. We've had budget surpluses for the last few cycles. It's a leftover from when Clinton was in office here as Governor.



The last seven years are proof of how much Republican's dislike budget surpluses.

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p.s.  What amuses me the most are the people who still think the Republican Party stands for fiscal responsibility.


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RE: Obama: What the Fuck is the Difference? - 3/1/2008 8:48:17 AM   
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p.s.  What amuses me the most are the people who still think the Republican Party stands for fiscal responsibility.




           Kinda like people who still think the Dems stand for anything at all.

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RE: Obama: What the Fuck is the Difference? - 3/1/2008 8:53:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sinergy


p.s.  What amuses me the most are the people who still think the Republican Party stands for fiscal responsibility.




          Kinda like people who still think the Dems stand for anything at all.


Exactly.

Why Im not a Democrat.

Next!

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