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MissMagnolia -> RE: Ask a Misterious (3/2/2008 8:23:31 PM)
I just read the OP's profile. Bloody hell, I'm COMPLETELY with you ShaktiSama. OP, you're a newbie with what seems relatively little to offer, no experience, but with a shopping list full of demands of what YOU want. Are you sure that you're submissive? I wish you good luck in your search, but I think it will be a long one.

EvilKitty -> RE: Ask a Misterious (3/2/2008 11:46:46 PM)
I doubt I could become interested in anyone who did NOT want to share their interests with me. I require someone I can talk to as well as beat. I need, REPEAT, I NEED to know I'm fulfilling my sub's needs. That feeds my soul.

pixelslave -> RE: Ask a Misterious (3/2/2008 11:54:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama quote: ORIGINAL: pixelslave I didn't look at the OP's profile until after reading your post. I still didn't read it nearly as "do me" as you seem to have. I didn't see it as "do me" (if anything "don't do me" is a stronger message). However, I do see it as demanding and demeaning. And I have never been impressed with men who assert their "submissive" nature by telling a woman what she has to look like in order to be "good enough" to be dominant. Shakti, It's my impression that you're projecting a lot on the OP here. No where has he stated what a dominant had to be in order to be "good enough" to be one (nor have I). He may have stated his preferences in an inappropriate manner for your tastes, which I wholeheartedly agreed with you on in one of my earlier posts. Being that he's new to the lifestyle, don't you think this would be an appropriate place for him to learn what women expect without being tarred & feathered, then run off the boards? quote: I can certainly see why you would want to defend the OP, given your recent posts to the "Extra Pounds" thread, where you so helplfully chimed in to reinforce the traditional stereotypes of plus-sized men and women as weak, lazy, and unhealthy. Clearly you are yet another male sub with strong views on who a woman has to be, in order to be worthy of his submission. At no point in time did I state a woman who was plus-sized was weak or lazy! The medical risks involved in being overweight are well documented. You've taken great leaps to reach an assumption in regard to what I deem necessary of a woman in order to be worthy of my submission. Never did I state a woman who wasn't at her ideal weight would not be a worthy dominant. I began my post in that particular thread by stating that what was on the inside of a woman was far more important to me than what was on the outside. SweetDommes seems to have clearly understood the gist of my post. A woman who can't take charge of her health isn't one that I'd trust to take charge of our relationship or of various parts of my life. If she can't be responsible for taking care of her own health and fitness, she wouldn't be very likely be a suitable match for the kind of lifestyle that's compatible with the kind I most enjoy. It seems that without knowing me, you've unjustly accused me of being superficial. quote: Personally, my only response to profiles and posts like this, however--regardless of what other qualities a sub may seem to have--is to be repulsed. I don't find homophobia a turn-on, for one thing, even in straight men. And I am never impressed by men who think that dominance can be judged, measured, or even established solely by someone's outward appearance. Attitudes like this say far more about your worth than anyone else's. But since you insist that other women are going to find this "delightful", I will take your word for it and spare any further expressions of my opinion on tyhe subject. I can content myself with a hearty, completely idiosyncratic [:'(] LOL! Nice rant. [:D] Homophobia is an epidemic in this country. [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m23.gif[/image] I don't like it myself and there are many on the boards here who perpetuate it. That said, intolerance for someone else's limits doesn't show the kind of respect for others I'd expect from someone with more experience than the OP; a newbie who came here seeking information to learn more about how things work in this lifestyle. Clearly, one of his hard limits is involvement in bisexual activities. How does that make him any different than another man who is straight? The OP readily acknowledges his difficulties using computers and writing his thoughts using proper grammar. Who do the dommes here insist on persecuting those who don't have perfect grammar? You're angry because some men expect perfection of women when it comes to their bodies. How often is is it stated on the boards here, that many dommes expect perfect spelling and grammar of men when they write to them? We can try, but none of us is perfect at anything. In my opinion, it's learning to accept each other as less than perfect which makes things easier and more enjoyable for both parties in a relationship. It seems you're referring to me in terms of men who think "dominance can be judged, measured, or established solely by someone's outward appearance". These kinds of wholesale statements that seem suitable for painting on billboards, do little to bring dommes and subs together for meaningful discussions about issues that affect both sides of the coin. We're all unique individuals and this medium doesn't always allow communication to occur in the way it's intended. But I see no reason to exacerbate the situation. [image]http://www.collarchat.com/micons/m23.gif[/image] You don't have to take my word for anything and I didn't realize we were here to judge my "worth". I've never met you and your opinion of my worth has no meaning to me. Although there's a strong sense of community here, in the big scheme of things, like me, you're just another blip on the internet that can disappear at a moment's notice. That said, I'm disappointed you felt you had to go there in order to try and make your point. If you feel you have to make things personal in order to do so, I suggest you ask yourself what might be going on inside yourself and what's been triggered within you that would cause you to want to lash out at me in this manner instead of using reason. I wish you no harm or malice. [8\|] I simply have a sense that the OP genuinely wants to serve and do things for a woman he cares for. He may not seek the same style of dominance that matches yours, but that doesn't make his desires or the woman who might want him as hers, any less valid as a way of living this lifestyle. There's room for all and the many variations one can possibly imagine. You've stated that you don't find what you perceive as the OP's homophobia a turn-on. I'd fully expect that a lesbian wouldn't find me to be a turn-on either. Yet I respect her right to make her lifestyle choices. Perhaps you could find room someplace within your heart to do the same for the OP? [&:] - pixel

ShaktiSama -> RE: Ask a Misterious (3/3/2008 4:54:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pixelslave the OP; a newbie who came here seeking information to learn more about how things work in this lifestyle. I could reply to the rest of this post, but I see no point. This little snippet is pretty much the crux of disagreement between us. You accuse me of "projecting" onto the OP, but quite frankly, after reading both his OP and his profile, I didn't see a man looking for "information" or guidance. What I saw was yet another newbie male sub looking for validation for his dictatorial and judgmental style of submission, which involved a laundry lists of personal and physical requirements for prospective dommes, followed by the predictable plaintive cries on the forum that what he's "into" should be the focus of any potential D/S relationship. Other dommes who have bothered to read the OP's profile have said similar things, so I'll leave it there. I'm not going to bother picking up with the snotty remarks about "dicipline" that you have now repeated twice; no amount of repetition is ever going to make that cliche more appetizing to me, so we're just going to have to agree to disagree. For the record, I also don't give a damn about your personal preferences or "lifestyle" choices, and no one is saying you have to have sex with men to be polite. Homophobic babbling is not necessary to avoid sex with men, as a general rule. Usually, it's something you can handle quite nicely by listing yourself as "straight", on your profile--or, if someone presses the issue, issuing a firm and polite "no". Speaking as a woman who routinely receives requests from men who want to become my "human toilet", I assure you--remaining polite when you decline unwanted activities is not difficult. "No thank you" really works wonders. And it's more than possible to type it several times a day. But if that's too time consuming, you can always learn the macro for [:'(]

hairslave -> RE: Ask a Misterious (3/6/2008 6:06:57 AM)
I thank every one here for they’re input even thou, some of what was said seems to be hard to take. My spelling is poor,… for which I do apologist for. I never mean to offend anyone or be in anyway be offensive. Note i didn’t say it is the last thing on my list because it isn’t even on my lists of things to do here. When I did my profile, i had the woman’s time in mind, so I put the things I’m not into up front in homer of your time. I have been working on doing a picture before I had my stroke. My attempts to place one on here have all been rejected by cm. I then decided that I would need to get someone with a digital camera to be able to post one here. Sorry but,… having the stroke has changed my prorates since then. Getting around ( transportation ) has become a problem for me now, ( something I can’t expect you to be a wear of ), so my prorates are getting out to do what is demanded at the moment wile recovering. ( Note the time lapse between 11/06 and now in my posts ) , if you can,…? That is the time I was to far out of it to be on here. I am recovering slowly and hope to recover, becoming able to serve a more Dominate woman like I had wanted to before. Yes as so many of you have stated,…. It’s what they have to offer on the inside that counts. Should you come to know someone who is a victim of a stroke, please remember,… they are still themselves on the inside, they just have to find new ways to get things done. I thank every one here for they’re input even thou, some of what was said seems to be hard to take. My spelling is poor,… for which I do apologist for. I never mean to offend anyone or be in anyway be offensive. Note i didn’t say it is the last thing on my list because it isn’t even on my lists of things to do here. When I did my profile, i had the woman’s time in mind, so I put the things I’m not into up front in homer of your time. I have been working on doing a picture before I had my stroke. My attempts to place one on here have all been rejected by cm. I then decided that I would need to get someone with a digital camera to be able to post one here. Sorry but,… having the stroke has changed my prorates since then. Getting around ( transportation ) has become a problem for me now, ( something I can’t expect you to be a wear of ), so my prorates are getting out to do what is demanded at the moment wile recovering. ( Note the time lapse between 11/06 and now in my posts ) , if you can,…? That is the time I was to far out of it to be on here. I am recovering slowly and hope to recover, becoming able to serve a more Dominate woman like I had wanted to before. Yes as so many of you have stated,…. It’s what they have to offer on the inside that counts. Should you come to know someone who is a victim of a stroke, please remember,… they are still themselves on the inside, they just have to find new ways to get things done. I thank every one here for they’re input even thou, some of what was said seems to be hard to take. My spelling is poor,… for which I do apologist for. I never mean to offend anyone or be in anyway be offensive. Note i didn’t say it is the last thing on my list because it isn’t even on my lists of things to do here. When I did my profile, i had the woman’s time in mind, so I put the things I’m not into up front in homer of your time. I have been working on doing a picture before I had my stroke. My attempts to place one on here have all been rejected by cm. I then decided that I would need to get someone with a digital camera to be able to post one here. Sorry but,… having the stroke has changed my prorates since then. Getting around ( transportation ) has become a problem for me now, ( something I can’t expect you to be a wear of ), so my prorates are getting out to do what is demanded at the moment wile recovering. ( Note the time lapse between 11/06 and now in my posts ) , if you can,…? That is the time I was to far out of it to be on here. I am recovering slowly and hope to recover, becoming able to serve a more Dominate woman like I had wanted to before. Yes as so many of you have stated,…. It’s what they have to offer on the inside that counts. Should you come to know someone who is a victim of a stroke, please remember,… they are still themselves on the inside, they just have to find new ways to get things done.

hairslave -> RE: Ask a Misterious (3/6/2008 6:38:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bleusparkles I've only ever had one relationship with a submissive guy but I gotta say, it was never ALL about me. It was ALL about US ... We had so much fun together just trying new things. Yes, he had a long list of interests but that was good in my eyes because it gave me a huge variety of things to choose from. Just because someone is interested in something doesn't mean you have to try it but it sure is nice to know that your partner isn't afraid to try new things. Thank You! ,for your imput. It's to my understanding that his mindset is all about Her. Yes thier relationship should be about them, in a equal way. It should meet both of thier needs but,... his happiness should be forfilled by knowing that Your being forfilled. The intrests that he has sould be there only as things he wants to bring to the table, not,... She has to do or in any why be required of Her. And yes he neds to be welling to explore as well. i would have to say,... that he was a very luck guy wile he was Yours. subs should all be so lucky.

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