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Perfect Society - Sub Women - 3/1/2008 7:28:55 AM   
seekingkidnap


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Status: offline 		Leaving aside such minor issues such as reality (!) what kind of society would people dream of living in?  i would love a return to a more traditional society where women are very much submissive to their men and expected to be obedient to them.  What does anyone else think?
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RE: Perfect Society - Sub Women - 3/1/2008 7:32:51 AM   
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RE: Perfect Society - Sub Women - 3/1/2008 7:40:54 AM   
colouredin


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Status: offline 		We did this at uni, a utopia and it was actually really difficult writing the ideal because everything has flaws, I do love Leatherists response and idealy a totally equal exsistance with no judgement but that would never work my g/f says "i want anarchy" but i wouldnt want that either. I have ready brave new world, handmaids tale and 1984 all to look at various ideas of society and to be honest all of them were terrifying, my idea of heaven would be anothers of hell. Like despite being a sub the idea of having a society where women were submissive i would hate. I just crave a world where people take an extra second to try and put themselves in the others shoes. 

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RE: Perfect Society - Sub Women - 3/1/2008 7:46:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: seekingkidnap

Leaving aside such minor issues such as reality (!) what kind of society would people dream of living in?  i would love a return to a more traditional society where women are very much submissive to their men and expected to be obedient to them.  What does anyone else think?


Many places in the world are just that way, so all you have to do is move to where women have less rights and you can live your dream...

As for me, I dream of a society in which no one is discriminated against, and nothing is expected of them because of their gender, skin color, or ethnic background...

~Sinergy's strumpet~



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RE: Perfect Society - Sub Women - 3/1/2008 7:49:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		I would like to see a society where the caustic nature of today's interactions was greatly reduced.  I have no problem calling my submissive a slut, whore, bitch, etc., etc..  I have been lovingly called an evil, twisted, sadistic bastard/son-of-a-bitch/etc..  But that was between myself and mine.  I do have a problem listening to people making statements such as "Yo, my whore...how goes it?" or "you bastard, how are ya?".  I'd like a little more civility, please.  But there again, that is what I would like...others seem to like the stripping away of societal conventions.  All I can do is make it clear to those who wish to spend time around me that I like all the little common courtesies and civilities and will walk away from a disagreement in which only one party expects to be heard or from someone who wishes to speak to me in a way that I consider inappropriate.

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RE: Perfect Society - Sub Women - 3/1/2008 7:52:56 AM   
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RE: Perfect Society - Sub Women - 3/1/2008 7:58:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: seekingkidnap

Leaving aside such minor issues such as reality (!) what kind of society would people dream of living in?  i would love a return to a more traditional society where women are very much submissive to their men and expected to be obedient to them.  What does anyone else think?


Many places in the world are just that way, so all you have to do is move to where women have less rights and you can live your dream...

As for me, I dream of a society in which no one is discriminated against, and nothing is expected of them because of their gender, skin color, or ethnic background...

~Sinergy's strumpet~



i have the same dream...kismet  (lovely pic btw)
OP: what makes the D/s thing special for me, is that it is my choice.  i submit freely.  There is a uniqueness in all of us, how we relate is part of the individuality that makes you "you".  Consider this...would being a sub/slave be special in any way if it were enforced, or if you were made to feel that it was in some way "expected" of you?  For me, it would not.  i'm not one that speaks of the "gift of submission"...but there is a level of intimacy in D/s that stands out from more mainstream relationships...for me, that mental connection sparks the heat, which becomes more intense on a physical level, and i don't need society to let me know it's right...it just works for me.

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RE: Perfect Society - Sub Women - 3/1/2008 8:03:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		I would much rather see myself pampered by a bunch of straight Chippendale dancers....lol

Okay, in all seriousness, I find the idea of my being submissive rather offensive and against my nature in general.  My "hackles" are up at the idea that all women should be submissive to men.

That said, I think we as a "lifestyle society" should be allowed to do the things we like to do consensually (no mater which partner is submissive) without suffering prejudice or ostracising from the population as a whole.

Lady Jag

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RE: Perfect Society - Sub Women - 3/1/2008 8:05:43 AM   
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We still have a long way to go from the opressive feudal systems of the past. Quite frankly, anything that puts us back there is going to be offensive to me.

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RE: Perfect Society - Sub Women - 3/1/2008 8:43:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		I would hate living in a society where women were expected to be subserviant to men.  Let it be by my choice and not by expectations, that I act in a way most comfortable for me.  On the flipside I would not like living in a world dominated by women either.
My idea society?  This one.  Where I have a choice to stretch my social station, go to school, build my business, and speak to people as my equal, no matter what their role in life. 
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RE: Perfect Society - Sub Women - 3/1/2008 8:50:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: seekingkidnap

Leaving aside such minor issues such as reality (!) what kind of society would people dream of living in?  i would love a return to a more traditional society where women are very much submissive to their men and expected to be obedient to them.  What does anyone else think?

Probably much to the surprise of others... the kind of world I would rather live in would have been the Dark Ages.  A world of endless opportunity for someone with the will and ability to take what they wanted, create what they wanted, and found entire nations if they had the ambition for it.  Say... someone exactly like me.   But of course I didn't... I'm here now, I'm alive now... and this lil town I've moved to still doesn't suspect a thing!  Oh if only they knew...


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RE: Perfect Society - Sub Women - 3/1/2008 8:52:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Heh... my dream would be your nightmare... and vice versa I suppose.  Life's funny like that.

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RE: Perfect Society - Sub Women - 3/1/2008 8:57:21 AM   
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Leaving aside such minor issues such as reality (!) what kind of society would people dream of living in?  i would love a return to a more traditional society where women are very much submissive to their men and expected to be obedient to them.  What does anyone else think?


Perfection doesn't exist.  And yeah, I am a kill joy for a 'fun' thread.
Dreams are cool, if you are prepared to fullfil them to your potential, otherwise they are a waste of valuable time and energy.  So I don't 'dream' I live it already.  And it pretty much rocks.  I get to serve and submit to a wonderful man and master, raise fabulous children, enjoy good food and get to smile an awful lot.  I see sunsets and raise to a dawn chorus and smell the air on a spring morning.
Who needs dreams with such reality?
 
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RE: Perfect Society - Sub Women - 3/1/2008 10:13:42 AM   
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Leaving aside such minor issues such as reality (!) what kind of society would people dream of living in?  i would love a return to a more traditional society where women are very much submissive to their men and expected to be obedient to them.  What does anyone else think?

quite honestly, I enjoy the challenges of the society that I now live in; with and without all its flaws and drawbacks.

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RE: Perfect Society - Sub Women - 3/1/2008 10:23:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		 i, as a single mother can't imagine having to live in a society where all women are submissive.  yes, i am submissive, but not always.  i can't and won't be submissive at work and out in the world...i'm fending for myself and my children and that is my main objective at the moment.  would i love to live in a fantasy world?  hell yes, but like what many have said, my fantasy might not be yours.

traditional societies are fine on paper and in fantasies, but reality trumps fantasy every single fucking time.


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RE: Perfect Society - Sub Women - 3/1/2008 10:37:36 AM   
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RE: Perfect Society - Sub Women - 3/1/2008 10:42:47 AM   
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an all woman lesbian society....where i can actually get a date....






But but you really havent thought this through we need men for ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm chopping down trees and stuff


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RE: Perfect Society - Sub Women - 3/1/2008 10:51:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Something like the Firefly universe mixed with a heavy dose of dominant female tendencies. I want my spaceship and easy dating scene, dammit.


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RE: Perfect Society - Sub Women - 3/1/2008 11:42:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: seekingkidnap

Leaving aside such minor issues such as reality (!) what kind of society would people dream of living in?  i would love a return to a more traditional society where women are very much submissive to their men and expected to be obedient to them.  What does anyone else think?

i would like to live in a world where i could sit at my Master's feet and simply BE, a world where this world was all there was without an ability to suspect there is a better one somewhere else.......and when we imagined where that better world was we could create it just by appreciating and feeling blessed by what we have.....like Lennon's words suggest.......
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

Have been crying and depressed but still feeling blessed by my ability to be able to.
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RE: Perfect Society - Sub Women - 3/1/2008 11:53:13 AM   
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No "every X must be submissive" silliness. Just a society where everyone gets the choice to be dominant or submissive as their nature leads them to be, where our choices can be respected and where that slave SPCA I keep joking about actually exists.

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