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RE: Help with Housework - 9/22/2005 11:49:03 AM   
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We could learn a lot from crayons: Some are sharp, some pretty, some dull, or have weird names, and all are different colors, but all have to learn to live in the same box.
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actually? i am going to be accused of being anal,..which i am a lot, and maybe being a wiseguy.....but sincerely......."I" find myself as being that one crayon that doesn't live in-the-box, the one that gets misplaced under a sofa or under a desk..."I" am still and always have been and always will be........the LONE wolf......a child of the 60's that never gave up the-movement........

i do my own thing man.......

wolfie.......howling like only a full grown wolf can do..........
whoooooooooo they call me nay-chure boy......whooooooo
stylin n pro filin talk the talk--walk the walk and talk when i walk........wheelin n dealin limo ridin jet flyin whoooooooo son of a gun.......

ooooooops

got carried away.........chuckling........
gawd i love the WWE.......






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RE: Help with Housework - 9/22/2005 12:28:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: krikket

This may sound a little complicated, but it's what worked for me -- for years in fact. The plan itself came out of a book called "Sidetracked home executive" or "SHE"..lol.

First, i went around our house and decided what needed to be done -- from daily, weekly, monthly, yearly -- and i wrote it all down.

Second, i bought mysef some index cards, different colored for each catagory (purple = daily, green = monthly, etc.). i also bought numbered index cards - the kind that stick up from the rest (1-31) and some monthly cards (Jan., Feb., etc.).

i wrote all the chores down on the appropriate color, put them in a pretty box and left the box where i was sure to see it. i also wrote down the time it took(5 minutes, etc.). The surprise was in timing things, i discovered it didn't take me nearly as long as i had always thought -- for example it didn't really take me all day to polish the furniture and clean the floors -- maybe 30 minutes total since it was a big house..lol.

i always kept the current day in the front of the box, and found i enjoyed seeing the cards "disappear" back into the next day or month they had to be done.

i even had some cards for the (ex)hubby since there were things that needed to be remembered, but rarely were, and that i physically couldn't do myself. When the kids came along i added them to the cards. When they were little i put pictures on them and the word itself (like a bed) so they knew what to do (and wanted to back then, the little darlings..lol) plus it helped them to read.

i never did like doing all the chores, still don't for that matter, but the trick is to make something about it "fun", or challenging, or what ever works for you.

Hope this makes sense.

jimini



krikket~
I also have a hard time with housework, as I am not by nature an organized person. Your idea here makes so much sense, and what a fun way to get things done! Thank you so much for posting this, I really think its going to help me greatly.



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RE: Help with Housework - 9/22/2005 12:36:55 PM   
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I was brought up very old fashioned. Taught to cook and clean by granny at an early age. can do...will do.... sigh.. and I do.

BUT.. a cleaning service def pays! Who says scrubbing the tub with a toothbrush makes one more of a slave, anyway?

Plus, a sub put to better use has more energy for the fun stuff! JMHO

PS i am not a spoiled bitch ;) I wouldn't mind one of those nice wolfies around though. Hmmnn.. any more in your pack, dude? <wink>

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RE: Help with Housework - 9/22/2005 12:53:52 PM   
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i was brought up the same, at my granny's knee. And, though the granny was missing, i made sure all my sons were raised the same way as well <grins>. (i love hearing from my oldest that his wife doesn't know a thing about housework..lol)..

and yes, i work full time, have for decades (literally). i would have loved a cleaning service, or any reasonable alternative, but i was (and am) it...





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ORIGINAL: Fawne

I was brought up very old fashioned. Taught to cook and clean by granny at an early age. can do...will do....

BUT.. if I am working full time: a cleaning service def pays! Who says scrubbing the tub with a toothbrush makes one more of a slave, anyway?

Plus, a happy sub has more energy for the fun stuff! JMHO



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RE: Help with Housework - 9/22/2005 12:57:09 PM   
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and all this comes from women? what happened to the old school where women were natural nesters? damn. and here "I" am male,.......and naturally into domestics services........"I" do everything from rain gutters to digging septic tanks to anything from ceiling to floor.......i do it ALL..painting drywall washing walls and doing floors on my hands and knees to beds and dishes and ceiling fans and...........hell i do it all and i do it alone..........for my Mistress. including laundry-----and upgrading the computer myself changing hardware........upgrading software..........car maintenance...........



OK, can we just clone you? I NEED someone to help me do all these things! Trouble is, all I can find is girls who want to take Master from me, and men who want me to feed their fantasies. I've got 18 rooms and 4 bathrooms to redecorate and keep clean, and a dungeon to rebuild! Who's got TIME for fantasies???

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RE: Help with Housework - 9/22/2005 3:36:40 PM   
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I understand! I hate doing housework. The thing that helps me is to drink a lot of coffee, crank up some awesome music, and dig in. Once I get going I work at a very quick pace. Try not to think about the mundanity (I think I made up a word) of it and just get to it. Make it a game for yourself, and keep in mind how pleased he'll be when he gets home.

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RE: Help with Housework - 9/22/2005 8:05:34 PM   
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PS i am not a spoiled bitch ;) I wouldn't mind one of those nice wolfies around though. Hmmnn.. any more in your pack, dude? <wink>

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anymore? uh, no. sorry.

wolf

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RE: Help with Housework - 9/22/2005 8:10:20 PM   
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OK, can we just clone you? I NEED someone to help me do all these things! Trouble is, all I can find is girls who want to take Master from me, and men who want me to feed their fantasies. I've got 18 rooms and 4 bathrooms to redecorate and keep clean, and a dungeon to rebuild! Who's got TIME for fantasies???

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clone? oh my. then i wouldn't be such a cool single item..everyone would want one and then in time you'd have factory rejects from over producing too fast on the assembly line and then you'd be right back where you are now......
oh my my no........
besides.......(giggle smirk chuckle)
you have-to speak to my Mistress first...

have a good day and thanks

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RE: Help with Housework - 9/22/2005 10:02:54 PM   
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I think Wolfie might be the only one who likes housework, but we all know it is something that needs to get done.

I understand your desire to make "his" life easier, and that is great. There are a couple of things that you mentioned and didn't mention though that to me make a difference.

First, you said there is a room mate and implied that said roomie is unaware of the whole "own/owned" situation. That of course is fine, but what freaking chores is the roomie doing? Certainly, some of those responsibilities should fall to roomie, don't ya think?

The other thing is whether or not you both work full time. M/s, D/s is great in theory, but when both of you are working, those household chores become very time consuming for one person. You said he hates doing dishes...are there things he likes or doesn't mind? (keep in mind I am saying this regarding a both working full time scenario). If you are both working and he gets home an hour before you, why couldn't he throw dinner in the oven? You could finish up the details when you get home, you eat sooner, which leaves more time for PLAY (very important too).

Everyone indicating that household chores should be split, it appears, are thinking of you both having full time jobs. Years ago, housewives didn't work outside the home, so it was a lot easier to accomplish everything in the house. After all, they hadn't just spent 8 hours at the office, at least an hour total commute. So perhaps if you are both working, you could try to take on the things he truly dislikes doing. This would also be helpful for you getting "in the swing of things".

As for finding a way not to resent it...I have to admit that while I hate cleaning, I like having a clean house. Sometimes, if I have a lot to do, I will only do one or two things a day. Laundry is one day, vaccuming another, etc. Breaking it up helps because you know you can finish that one or two things and at least you have now reached a goal (like the time limit suggestion).

One other comment...if you DON'T live together, I'm sorry but you shouldn't feel too terrible about not taking on all his household chores while you also have your own household chores to do. That would be like having 3 full time jobs, but only one gets you a paycheck!

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RE: Help with Housework - 9/23/2005 12:11:55 AM   
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Well, there's always Roseanna's take on housekeeping...

"I'm not going to vacuum 'til Sears makes one you can ride on."

- Roseanne Barr

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Or perhaps Zsa Zsa's motto is more to some people's liking on housekeeping...

"I am a marvelous housekeeper. Every time I leave a man, I keep his house."

- Zsa Zsa Gabor


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RE: Help with Housework - 9/23/2005 4:41:01 AM   
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So. I was wondering if anyone could give me advice on how not to resent housework. how to remember NOT to ask him to it, or feel like he should. The biggest one right now is the dishes. I keep feeling that I'm doing too much, and pestering him to do them. I hate this. However, I have yet to come up with a good way to remind myself and to put my brain back where I want it.


As I tell everyone, my only domestic quality is that I live in a house.... I would much rather spend my time working on the drywall or painting, building or framing or doing my artsy crap, therefore I simply choose between the lessor of two evils. I hate cleaning house but I hate a messy house even more... so I clean it and avoid feeling like I'm trying to work on the things I do enjoy doing in a messy environment.

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RE: Help with Housework - 9/23/2005 4:47:44 AM   
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I just think your dominant needs to punish you a bit more to make you want to do it. Also living with someone else would make it hard to tell you what to do without getting weird looks and perhaps other things happening...

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RE: Help with Housework - 9/23/2005 5:23:15 AM   
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I rather like to clean up - it is a form of instant gratification, almost, because the results are so quickly seen and enjoyed. Also, the two men that I am lucky enough to live with are parckrats, and if I don't stay on top of things, piles of them grow menancingly! eek!!

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RE: Help with Housework - 9/23/2005 5:41:14 AM   
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I just think your dominant needs to punish you a bit more to make you want to do it. Also living with someone else would make it hard to tell you what to do without getting weird looks and perhaps other things happening...

Ever hear the proverb "you get more with honey than vinegar"? Punishment is a pretty bad method of motivating new habits, though it can be fairly useful in breaking bad ones.

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RE: Help with Housework - 9/23/2005 7:55:41 AM   
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yea but aint she wanting it to be more en-forced? Would punishment for not doing it be correct?

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RE: Help with Housework - 9/23/2005 11:11:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lonewolf05

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OK, can we just clone you? I NEED someone to help me do all these things! Trouble is, all I can find is girls who want to take Master from me, and men who want me to feed their fantasies. I've got 18 rooms and 4 bathrooms to redecorate and keep clean, and a dungeon to rebuild! Who's got TIME for fantasies???

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clone? oh my. then i wouldn't be such a cool single item..everyone would want one and then in time you'd have factory rejects from over producing too fast on the assembly line and then you'd be right back where you are now......
oh my my no........
besides.......(giggle smirk chuckle)
you have-to speak to my Mistress first...

have a good day and thanks

wolf



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RE: Help with Housework - 9/23/2005 11:33:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: FLButtSlut

PERVERSEANGELIC

First, you said there is a room mate and implied that said roomie is unaware of the whole "own/owned" situation. That of course is fine, but what freaking chores is the roomie doing? Certainly, some of those responsibilities should fall to roomie, don't ya think?

Not unaware, but out of respect we rather avoid overt acts, just as he out of respect to us, doesn't have sex on the couch :)

And yup, he does his share of work. I'm talking about the share the fallson my partner and myself



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The other thing is whether or not you both work full time. M/s, D/s is great in theory, but when both of you are working, those household chores become very time consuming for one person. You said he hates doing dishes...are there things he likes or doesn't mind? (keep in mind I am saying this regarding a both working full time scenario). If you are both working and he gets home an hour before you, why couldn't he throw dinner in the oven? You could finish up the details when you get home, you eat sooner, which leaves more time for PLAY (very important too).


I work full time. He goes to school full time. I understand what you're saying, but we've talked about it and I honestly prefer that my work not be figured into my duties at home. It doesn't feel right if I don't do the laundry because I happen to be working that day.


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Everyone indicating that household chores should be split, it appears, are thinking of you both having full time jobs. .. So perhaps if you are both working, you could try to take on the things he truly dislikes doing. This would also be helpful for you getting "in the swing of things".


I hear what you're saying, but this kind of arangement will still feel wrong to me. We are working hard on our power dynamic, and I -want- to be useful no matter what else I'm doing. I don't want the fact that I work to mean he has to stop asking me to do certain things, or needs to feel like he should be doing the dishes, or taking out the trash, when he'd rather be doing somthing else. I want that to be what I'n here for.


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One other comment...if you DON'T live together, I'm sorry but you shouldn't feel too terrible about not taking on all his household chores while you also have your own household chores to do. That would be like having 3 full time jobs, but only one gets you a paycheck!


I have to say I disagree with this one too. Granted, I live with him so it's a moot point, but even if I didn't, if he wanted me to clean house, then it's my job to do it. Saying that he doesn't want to enforce it doesn't mean he doesn't want me to -do- it, just that he doesn't feel the desire to chase me around with a spray bottle for not vaccuuming. He wants to not have to think about these things. As someone who serves him, whether or not we live together, it'd be my job to get rid of the things he doesn't want to think about--at least in our dynamic.

Thank you very much for your detailed input and I'm sorry I was unclear about somet higns

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RE: Help with Housework - 9/23/2005 11:36:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: imtempting

I just think your dominant needs to punish you a bit more to make you want to do it. Also living with someone else would make it hard to tell you what to do without getting weird looks and perhaps other things happening...


Heh, thing is he doen't want to. Can't say I blame him, it's just as much work to punish somene as it is to just do the dishes yourself. He'd rather just do them than bother getting anrgy with me.

And I don't want him to have to do either. I'm trying to make him have -less- work, and less things to worry about.

I'm trying to be better WITHOUT getting in trouble. Call it punishment avoidance.

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RE: Help with Housework - 9/23/2005 12:03:54 PM   
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My two cents: get a maid in twice a month to do the heavy lifting; read the mail the day it arrives and figure put what to do with it (crap; correspondece; bills); use a chart and hit every room at least once a week.

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RE: Help with Housework - 9/23/2005 1:29:29 PM   
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