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Rule -> RE: Do i really need to be broken and then fixed??? (3/2/2008 2:33:55 PM)

Seems like an inept player to me, that master.
 
You are cute. Get the hell out. Find a proper master.




Paulsgirl -> RE: Do i really need to be broken and then fixed??? (3/2/2008 2:42:17 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: HouseDV8

I really do try not to be judgemental, but it baffles me that there are two pages of answers to this. This is not even a real problem. The OP even said she never met this person. One reply even said that there was nothing wrong with her, but with him...i beg to differ. i don't know about "wrong", but there is something unhealthy with being this heart broken and upset over someone you never even met and who is probably showing you completely fake pictures of these supposed slaves. WHO CARES??? Get out of your box. If you want to feel badly because someone you never met does not think you are good enough you probably just convinced a whole bunch of people with this post. Now you can feel really terrible.







I've never met the bastards that cause the traffic jams on the M4 when i am trying to get into London but the problem that i am STUCK in traffic is still very real.
Is that clear?





GreedyTop -> RE: Do i really need to be broken and then fixed??? (3/2/2008 2:48:51 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Paulsgirl
I've never met the bastards that cause the traffic jams on the M4 when i am trying to get into London but the problem that i am STUCK in traffic is still very real.
Is that clear?




::applauds::




colouredin -> RE: Do i really need to be broken and then fixed??? (3/2/2008 2:52:18 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: HouseDV8

I really do try not to be judgemental, but it baffles me that there are two pages of answers to this. This is not even a real problem. The OP even said she never met this person. One reply even said that there was nothing wrong with her, but with him...i beg to differ. i don't know about "wrong", but there is something unhealthy with being this heart broken and upset over someone you never even met and who is probably showing you completely fake pictures of these supposed slaves. WHO CARES??? Get out of your box. If you want to feel badly because someone you never met does not think you are good enough you probably just convinced a whole bunch of people with this post. Now you can feel really terrible.








Jesus christ, who are you to say what she does or does not feel? If she feels as bad as she does why does it make a differance what made her feel that way. I am sorry but you can have intense emotions about people you have known a week people you only know online only spoke to on the phone, why is it that a relationship is only real or worth mentioning based on length or physicallity, a relationship is a relationship no matter what form that relationship takes.




agoodgirl4Daddy -> RE: Do i really need to be broken and then fixed??? (3/2/2008 3:00:27 PM)

If you HAVE a "Sir", why all the drama and pissin n moanin' about this other supposed Dominant?

Be grateful you have someone to serve.  Some of us don't. 

And..on a more helpful note...  here's a quote from Eleanor Roosevelt:

"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent."

You give him way too much power to "make" you feel a certain way.  There IS a difference between being a submissive or slave and being a doormat. 




SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: Do i really need to be broken and then fixed??? (3/2/2008 3:00:43 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Paulsgirl
I've never met the bastards that cause the traffic jams on the M4 when i am trying to get into London but the problem that i am STUCK in traffic is still very real.
Is that clear?



It wasn't my fault the sign said I could cross the M4 with my cattle at that point. All I'm trying to do is earn a living and part of that is the need to move my cows from the grazing field to the meat production plant godamnit.[8|]




Paulsgirl -> RE: Do i really need to be broken and then fixed??? (3/2/2008 3:04:29 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

Around 12 months ago i began speaking with a Dom and we got quite close. We spoke about meeting, taking things further etc and all was pretty sweet. That was until He mentioned that He wanted poly and that He had been speaking with a young newbie who He was thinking of taking on as a slave. Fair enough, but i really wanted nothing to do with poly at that time (bad break up) and told Him so.
I explained to Him about the bad break up and that i had no interest in mentoring this newbie in any shape or form, which was what He was asking me to do. We talked and talked things through and i eventually agreed to give it a go.
To cut a long story short i over night managed to turn into the worst slave in the world. My attitude stunk, my manners were appalling and i was so nowhere near as good as His new slave. Or so He said!
I took it for as long as i could, tried to be what He claimed He wanted but nothing was ever good enough and eventually i gave up. Bare in mind at this point we hadn't even met.
Now He has popped back into my life again and thinking things would be different we have been talking again. Things were pretty cool until He showed me His other two slaves. I have no problem with poly at this time at all, those of you who know me know i have been seeing my Sir for about 10 months now and we have a very open relationship.
Anyway He showed me His slaves, asked me what i thought and believing honesty was the best policy i told Him. They looked very nice, not my taste and a little too young. He didnt take it well and He basically called me jealous of their youth and beauty. As i told Him beauty is in the eye of the beholder and i just dont personally find them attractive.
All down hill from there lol. Nothing i say or do is right. One minute He wishes me to be a prospective slave of His, the next He is trying to show me good behaviour so i can find myself a good Master. He tells me to show Him my submission and desire to be His and yet when i ask Him for guidelines, expectations, i am speaking out of turn.
In short He claims i need breaking so He can build me up into an obedient pleasurable slave. Hes broken me alright but i dont think its in a good way at all! Ive given up, He wins. I told Him this and asked Him if He was now happy, he says no!! Apparently my attitude still stinks!
Now though He has my head spinning and im questioning whether i really do need breaking and fixing in some way shape or form?
 

And we can make it three or even four pages of suport and help.
i know what it feels like to feel crap, utterly broken, paranoid as fuck and enitrely isolated in a personal isssue and just aching to ask the forums here.
But that aside, there is a way that certain so-called Doms have, which they consider some sort of training. The logic of their training goes like this: i want this sub. she doesn't want me. I am unable to accept this as I am a perfect Dom. therefore i must make her feel wretched in order to make myself feel powerful and as perfect as I know myself to be. If she insists on rejecting me, let's make her feel crap and unworthy and broken AND let's also offer to be the one to fix her.....wtf???????
And please don't flame me that I am making this statement about D types in general i am making this statement about how NOT TO BE AN IDIOT. Don't break what gives you your source of power.
EVEN AN EMOTIONAL SADIST DOESN'T BREAK THE OBJECT THAT THEY WISH TO EMOTIONALLY TRANSFORM.
Sorry not shouting at you hon....and actually very happythat i got this figured out in the process of typing.






GreedyTop -> RE: Do i really need to be broken and then fixed??? (3/2/2008 3:06:39 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3

quote:

ORIGINAL: Paulsgirl
I've never met the bastards that cause the traffic jams on the M4 when i am trying to get into London but the problem that i am STUCK in traffic is still very real.
Is that clear?



It wasn't my fault the sign said I could cross the M4 with my cattle at that point. All I'm trying to do is earn a living and part of that is the need to move my cows from the grazing field to the meat production plant godamnit.[8|]


*snort*




Paulsgirl -> RE: Do i really need to be broken and then fixed??? (3/2/2008 3:06:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3

quote:

ORIGINAL: Paulsgirl
I've never met the bastards that cause the traffic jams on the M4 when i am trying to get into London but the problem that i am STUCK in traffic is still very real.
Is that clear?



It wasn't my fault the sign said I could cross the M4 with my cattle at that point. All I'm trying to do is earn a living and part of that is the need to move my cows from the grazing field to the meat production plant godamnit.[8|]

goddam......i also thought the last time i saw cattle crossing the M4 it was snorting psychosis......
now it turns out to be Greedytop having taken a wrong turn in mid ocean......




kc692 -> RE: Do i really need to be broken and then fixed??? (3/2/2008 3:13:32 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

It is not my intent to start some sort of big goddammit here, and I am saying this with the most of best wishes I can muster for you, but great bleeding gobs of gooseshit, you make some really fuckin' piss poor choices.  You need to quit reading De Sade and getting off on the sexual aspect, and consider your actions, the consequences and take some stock in what you really want, what you are really willing to do, what you will give up, what you won't and find some serenity and happiness and logic within yourself, for your days here on earth. Bouncing from fucked up situation to fucked up situation, is just no way to go thru life.

If you see that as too mordant or something, well, more's the pity.

Cordially,
Ron


Did you happen to check the timeline on your calendar as to this occurrence, Ron?  12 months?  Hmmm..............[;)]




Aileen1968 -> RE: Do i really need to be broken and then fixed??? (3/2/2008 3:20:56 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

Around 12 months ago i began speaking with a Dom and we got quite close. We spoke about meeting, taking things further etc and all was pretty sweet. That was until He mentioned that He wanted poly and that He had been speaking with a young newbie who He was thinking of taking on as a slave. Fair enough, but i really wanted nothing to do with poly at that time (bad break up) and told Him so.
I explained to Him about the bad break up and that i had no interest in mentoring this newbie in any shape or form, which was what He was asking me to do. We talked and talked things through and i eventually agreed to give it a go.
To cut a long story short i over night managed to turn into the worst slave in the world. My attitude stunk, my manners were appalling and i was so nowhere near as good as His new slave. Or so He said!
I took it for as long as i could, tried to be what He claimed He wanted but nothing was ever good enough and eventually i gave up. Bare in mind at this point we hadn't even met.
Now He has popped back into my life again and thinking things would be different we have been talking again. Things were pretty cool until He showed me His other two slaves. I have no problem with poly at this time at all, those of you who know me know i have been seeing my Sir for about 10 months now and we have a very open relationship.
Anyway He showed me His slaves, asked me what i thought and believing honesty was the best policy i told Him. They looked very nice, not my taste and a little too young. He didnt take it well and He basically called me jealous of their youth and beauty. As i told Him beauty is in the eye of the beholder and i just dont personally find them attractive.
All down hill from there lol. Nothing i say or do is right. One minute He wishes me to be a prospective slave of His, the next He is trying to show me good behaviour so i can find myself a good Master. He tells me to show Him my submission and desire to be His and yet when i ask Him for guidelines, expectations, i am speaking out of turn.
In short He claims i need breaking so He can build me up into an obedient pleasurable slave. Hes broken me alright but i dont think its in a good way at all! Ive given up, He wins. I told Him this and asked Him if He was now happy, he says no!! Apparently my attitude still stinks!
Now though He has my head spinning and im questioning whether i really do need breaking and fixing in some way shape or form?
 


Accept that he is not a good match for you and walk away.  Find someone who makes you feel good about yourself and the relationship and you'll find that your attitude improves incredibly.  Happiness has a way of doing that.  It's really very simple to do.




GreedyTop -> RE: Do i really need to be broken and then fixed??? (3/2/2008 3:29:52 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Paulsgirl

quote:

ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3

quote:

ORIGINAL: Paulsgirl
I've never met the bastards that cause the traffic jams on the M4 when i am trying to get into London but the problem that i am STUCK in traffic is still very real.
Is that clear?



It wasn't my fault the sign said I could cross the M4 with my cattle at that point. All I'm trying to do is earn a living and part of that is the need to move my cows from the grazing field to the meat production plant godamnit.[8|]

goddam......i also thought the last time i saw cattle crossing the M4 it was snorting psychosis......
now it turns out to be Greedytop having taken a wrong turn in mid ocean......



yep..and ended up back on this side..LOL




SirJohnMandevill -> RE: Do i really need to be broken and then fixed??? (3/2/2008 3:37:18 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation
In short He claims i need breaking so He can build me up into an obedient pleasurable slave. Hes broken me alright but i dont think its in a good way at all! Ive given up, He wins. I told Him this and asked Him if He was now happy, he says no!! Apparently my attitude still stinks!
Now though He has my head spinning and im questioning whether i really do need breaking and fixing in some way shape or form?
 


Hmmmmmm-mmmmmmm. I dunno how many times I've heard this business about "breaking" a sub or slave so she can be remolded into something a master wishes.
 
My .02 zlotys: If you're experienced in D/s and he doesn't care for the way you demonstrate your submission, he's not the man for you. I have friends who have been through this very business, and they NEVER managed to please their Masters! The bar was always raised a bit higher, so they were set up to fail.
 
I don't have the experience to know why certain Masters feel the need to do this. My personal feeling is that if a submissive can't be the way I want her to be...and she's trying as hard as she can -- it's just not going to work, period.
 
Les (Purveyor of Fine, Handcrafted Kink)




mnottertail -> RE: Do i really need to be broken and then fixed??? (3/2/2008 3:46:01 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kc692
Did you happen to check the timeline on your calendar as to this occurrence, Ron?  12 months?  Hmmm..............[;)]


Yeah, I know...both of us have privately decided to let it go, me going north and her going south.  Don't tell anyone I am that nice a nice guy, or that she hasn't been icepicked to death...bad for my iconic rep out here (LOL, somebody said that to me, I am iconic out here...I had to go look it up because I thought they were telling me I smelled bad...nyuck nyuck)  and in anycase I am trying to avoid any visits from good old you know who for the upcoming spring  ball.   So, let us talk of other things now.

Ron




Paulsgirl -> RE: Do i really need to be broken and then fixed??? (3/2/2008 3:47:51 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

Around 12 months ago i began speaking with a Dom and we got quite close. We spoke about meeting, taking things further etc and all was pretty sweet. That was until He mentioned that He wanted poly and that He had been speaking with a young newbie who He was thinking of taking on as a slave. Fair enough, but i really wanted nothing to do with poly at that time (bad break up) and told Him so.
I explained to Him about the bad break up and that i had no interest in mentoring this newbie in any shape or form, which was what He was asking me to do. We talked and talked things through and i eventually agreed to give it a go.
To cut a long story short i over night managed to turn into the worst slave in the world. My attitude stunk, my manners were appalling and i was so nowhere near as good as His new slave. Or so He said!
I took it for as long as i could, tried to be what He claimed He wanted but nothing was ever good enough and eventually i gave up. Bare in mind at this point we hadn't even met.
Now He has popped back into my life again and thinking things would be different we have been talking again. Things were pretty cool until He showed me His other two slaves. I have no problem with poly at this time at all, those of you who know me know i have been seeing my Sir for about 10 months now and we have a very open relationship.
Anyway He showed me His slaves, asked me what i thought and believing honesty was the best policy i told Him. They looked very nice, not my taste and a little too young. He didnt take it well and He basically called me jealous of their youth and beauty. As i told Him beauty is in the eye of the beholder and i just dont personally find them attractive.
All down hill from there lol. Nothing i say or do is right. One minute He wishes me to be a prospective slave of His, the next He is trying to show me good behaviour so i can find myself a good Master. He tells me to show Him my submission and desire to be His and yet when i ask Him for guidelines, expectations, i am speaking out of turn.
In short He claims i need breaking so He can build me up into an obedient pleasurable slave. Hes broken me alright but i dont think its in a good way at all! Ive given up, He wins. I told Him this and asked Him if He was now happy, he says no!! Apparently my attitude still stinks!
Now though He has my head spinning and im questioning whether i really do need breaking and fixing in some way shape or form?
 


Accept that he is not a good match for you and walk away.  Find someone who makes you feel good about yourself and the relationship and you'll find that your attitude improves incredibly.  Happiness has a way of doing that.  It's really very simple to do.

With acceptance of what you say Aileen:
Master does not always, sometimes, usuallt, ever (lol) make me feel happy or indeed bad about myself. But i have learned a very hard lesson very fast. And that is that feeling good or bad about myself is reactance: sometimes 'good' and sometimes'bad'. Since i entered into it all consensually the responsinility for how i feel lies with me. The agreement to enter into 'it' (which is not just a relarionship but a bdsm relationship), that agreement came first and then i had, have and probably will continue to have problems with the way 'He' males 'me' feel....but just like physical pain, whose qualties and dimensions, there seems to be a clearer shared consensus about, emotional pain is more deeply subjective, shows no scars and leaves no visible bruising.
IMPO the OPener seems to be allowing herself to feel those feelings before an agreement has been made or even a meeting.
i admit i have done this running order. It's an arse about apex emotion......
first things first.....meet, talk, coffee? scent him out? touch and meet the other so-called slaves etc etc and then feel.......and then by all means arse above apex......




Sirsinini -> RE: Do i really need to be broken and then fixed??? (3/2/2008 3:53:57 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

It is not my intent to start some sort of big goddammit here, and I am saying this with the most of best wishes I can muster for you, but great bleeding gobs of gooseshit, you make some really fuckin' piss poor choices.  You need to quit reading De Sade and getting off on the sexual aspect, and consider your actions, the consequences and take some stock in what you really want, what you are really willing to do, what you will give up, what you won't and find some serenity and happiness and logic within yourself, for your days here on earth. Bouncing from fucked up situation to fucked up situation, is just no way to go thru life.

If you see that as too mordant or something, well, more's the pity.

Cordially,
Ron



another definition of drama............




kc692 -> RE: Do i really need to be broken and then fixed??? (3/2/2008 3:59:28 PM)

Well, I'm impressed, smiles....and, truly, you rock!!! Guess it's time for me to turn forgetful too, since I'm just your buddy on this for the ride....better watch it, you will ruin your rep!!!!![sm=flowers.gif]




mnottertail -> RE: Do i really need to be broken and then fixed??? (3/2/2008 4:11:10 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sirsinini
another definition of drama............


Damn near definitive dictionary class as it happens.

Ron 




kc692 -> RE: Do i really need to be broken and then fixed??? (3/2/2008 4:31:59 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sirsinini

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

It is not my intent to start some sort of big goddammit here, and I am saying this with the most of best wishes I can muster for you, but great bleeding gobs of gooseshit, you make some really fuckin' piss poor choices.  You need to quit reading De Sade and getting off on the sexual aspect, and consider your actions, the consequences and take some stock in what you really want, what you are really willing to do, what you will give up, what you won't and find some serenity and happiness and logic within yourself, for your days here on earth. Bouncing from fucked up situation to fucked up situation, is just no way to go thru life.

If you see that as too mordant or something, well, more's the pity.

Cordially,
Ron



another definition of drama............


One wonders if some posters ever change their sour outlook. Actions seem to say no.




colouredin -> RE: Do i really need to be broken and then fixed??? (3/2/2008 4:33:57 PM)

I dont see how that was drama (and i actually think dramatic is the right term though i may be wrong)




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