RE: I am what I claim, not what I do

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colouredin -> RE: I am what I claim, not what I do (3/3/2008 4:52:38 AM)
I just see them all as labels, my problem with this would not have come from her calling herself a slave or her behaviour but the way she spoke about others. I have seen very differant kind of M/s relationships and whatever workds for them works for them I dont see it as something that I should have an opinion on. But if someone starts to insult who I am for whatever reason that would get me frustrated. I know a lot of submissives who "dob" other subs in to their SIrs to get them in trouble, it simply causes back biting and mean ness and doesnt really have much of a point.

Madame4a -> RE: I am what I claim, not what I do (3/3/2008 5:58:02 AM)
I read your post and thought "I know this one, or them" but I'm sure I don't -- although I'm sure I've met a few like them. Usually, I tend to refer to them in my head as Slave Master Domly Dom and his Master slave whatever. That said, we never really know what someone's relationship is until will live it. Actions speak louder than words. We all have things we don't like (whatever they might be, someone's kinks or switches) and the polite thing is to keep that to ourselves and not act out accordingly. I'd love to think she's punished for that behavior, but probably not. Maybe the Master likes it that way? It certainly presents a clear model not to follow, if in fact its not for you, or anyone else. That said, I tend not to comment too much on other's behavior as I really don't know the ins and outs of the relationship but I imagine I would have reacted much the same as you did.

Jeffff -> RE: I am what I claim, not what I do (3/3/2008 6:56:02 AM)
There is no need to do anything. Ignore them. Their dynamic is their dynamic. If the rudeness and annoying opinions continue, everyone else will probably, eventually ignore them too.Most people have no tolerance for intolerance..:) Jeff

SubbieOnWheels -> RE: I am what I claim, not what I do (3/3/2008 7:02:58 AM)
FR~ I imagine that she went home at the end of the evening and complained to her Master that "Nobody would talk to me after a while. What a stuck-up bunch of snobs!" Not saying that you are a stuck-up snob, but perception is 98% of one's experience, and she was probably getting a lot of backs turned in her direction, especially as the evening wore on. If they wouldn't see the dynamics of the social interaction, then they were (IMO) incapable of seeing it. If they ever show up again, you have the option of pretending they're not there. If they don't, well, then they are well and truly out of your life.

Kana -> RE: I am what I claim, not what I do (3/3/2008 7:05:03 AM)
Why would I care at all how she acts/behaves/deals with him. Its none of my business at all. Now if she were to step up to the plate towards me, that would be a different ballgame-I would tell her in no uncertain terms to get her ass out of my zone. But what goes on between her and her master is exactly that, between her and her master. As a generality, I tend to find that when people express thoughts and opinions about things that they are not, they more often than not reveal nothing about whatever they are discussing yet reveal much about their character. Her comments regarding switches have zero to do with what you or anyone else does, but do show her to be shallow, judgemental, closeminded and petty. But does that make you or any other switch any of those things? Not unless you choose to allow it to be so. People like that make me laugh, at them, which I do to their face and if they are silly enough to ask why I am laughing, I tell them.

SassySarijane -> RE: I am what I claim, not what I do (3/3/2008 7:05:56 AM)
Their dynamic is their business and I won't say anymore on that, however her described behavior/attitude towards others isn't very nice. I don't have much tolerance for those with an I'm better than you, I know more than you, I'm right/you're wrong one true way kind of attitude, nor do I take it from them when it's directed at me. I can very calmly and sweetly get my point across and then forget their existance. I deal with enough unavoidable drama in my life without that form of it.

Phoenix2raven -> RE: I am what I claim, not what I do (3/3/2008 7:08:09 AM)
I've had the same thing happen time and time again. The thing is they never last very long because nobody likes them. After giving them a chance I speak to the Dom about the subs behavior, ask questions, draw a conclusion then based on what I find I either tell them flat out don't talk to me or invite them to learn.

sweetnurseBBW -> RE: I am what I claim, not what I do (3/3/2008 7:12:37 AM)
Who am I to decide if their dynamic is real, or wrong or right? It might not be what we practice but their life doesn't concern me. I just ignore people I find irritating at munches. If it works for them, then so be it. Their dynamics have no bearing on mine, so why should I care?

SinergyNstrumpet -> RE: I am what I claim, not what I do (3/3/2008 7:30:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MissAidan What I want to know is, what do you think of a person who goes around claiming to be this devoted, 24/7 live-in collard slave with behaviour such as this? Personally, it was all I could do to bite my tongue and hold in my Irish temper. If it wasn't for my respect for those who run the group, I would have told her how abusred she seemed to me and how what she claimed and what she did didn't quite mix. I have had similar experiences with people in this kind of dynamic; the Master / slave named couple where the one wears a collar and the other wears a ring through their nose. So to answer your question, I would not think much of it. I would not say anything, however, I do not feel it is my place to comment on the dynamics of others. Hey, it works for them. Sinergy

OmegaG -> RE: I am what I claim, not what I do (3/3/2008 7:33:47 AM)
FR I simply would have smiled at her and told her that I was glad that their arrangement worked for them. OK I may have been snarky and asked how long it took her to find the one twue path. Truth be told, people have to find a path that works in achieving their own happiness, I think that lables are superfluous as there are so many shades of grey and not one single dynamic is going to mirror another. I think people like her are stuck in a catch 22, they are upity towards others and they recieve the cold sholder in return, this reinforces their thoughts that others are nasty/inferiour/stuck-up/_____ and the story gets played out over and over. One can play into the subconsious manipulation and maintain her paradigm or one can refuse to play that game and throw people like her off kilter.

Leatherist -> RE: I am what I claim, not what I do (3/3/2008 7:35:57 AM)
People rarely fit the definitions and ideals of others. That being said-I would have just ignored this woman as a waste of time.

Justme696 -> RE: I am what I claim, not what I do (3/3/2008 7:52:08 AM)
at OP some people like to be more, better, faster then others..in and outside the lifestyle..at least let it look like that... Be glad you wittnessed she wasn't. It would be very satisfying to me, to see her make herself look stupid. She proves she is a 24/7 pain in the ass

xxblushesxx -> RE: I am what I claim, not what I do (3/3/2008 8:04:31 AM)
Hmmm....this is an interesting question in many ways. The OP described a night that we spent with her, and I am the naughty slave. Yes, sometimes I complain about wearing leather and boots...so? Is that someone else's business? That's right, I don't work. I go to school. That's the way He wants it. And I do MANY MANY more things than just laundry for Him. And if I don't like playing ponygirl, well...gosh...I guess I will learn better about who to confide in, huh? (this was all discussed in a lighthearted manner amongst all of us, btw) It's been over a month and she is still talking about it. It was a vanilla night, not a munch btw...and HoneyMaster and I have our own rules that we follow. On a vanilla night, I am considered just as much of a 'person' as anyone else. I was not rude to my Master, and did not insult Him. Anyone may ask Him if they like. I did drink too much that evening. We hadn't been out alone together in over six months and I did go overboard. (with His encouragement btw) This person has insulted me since we first began communicating, and is still doing so, even though I have made it clear that I am not interested in playing. (which, btw, she asked about a few days after this meeting) I'm sorry if our dynamic doesn't work for you. It does for us. We were gracious to her and to hers, had them into our home, bought them drinks and dinner and wrote sincere thank you letters after meeting. I was dissed and dismissed for my trouble. And, apparently, still am to this day. Btw...I do NOT think submissives are just players, I have NO idea where that came from, and what I did say, (several times) is that I don't understand the whole 'switch' dynamic. I am very close to one, and wouldn't trade this person for anything in the world, but...I just don't understand it. I asked for clarification, because I really am trying to learn. I'm sure HoneyMaster will be very interested to learn that not only is this person still insulting me, (for about the fifth time since we've known her) she has now gone to insulting Him, in an open forum, and basically called Him my sub. As I stated in my journal, the quickest way to get uninvited from our lives, is to insult one of us to the other. This is why we discontinued communication with the OP. Really, after a month?!! We've moved on, and so should you.

IrishMist -> RE: I am what I claim, not what I do (3/3/2008 8:08:49 AM)
Christina. All I can say is KUDOS to you ...LMAO, though, as you probably already know...I still stand by what I said... [8D]

Jeffff -> RE: I am what I claim, not what I do (3/3/2008 8:11:26 AM)
LOL!!!!!!! I love you Jeffwey

IrishMist -> RE: I am what I claim, not what I do (3/3/2008 8:12:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jeffff LOL!!!!!!! I love you Jeffwey HEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY WTF???????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [>:]

colouredin -> RE: I am what I claim, not what I do (3/3/2008 8:15:30 AM)
I am glad that we got to hear the other side, which is so rarely the case. I stick by what i said about not judging other peoples dynamics, though now it seems more that it was an open attack more than anything else (posing it on a public board of which you are a frequant poster suggests that) and I think it is very sad that someone needs to do that.

domahpet -> RE: I am what I claim, not what I do (3/3/2008 8:21:30 AM)
well Christina, it sounds like you are some kinda shit talkin, bad mouthed, disrepsectful drunk. what to do about it? wanna come over this weekend??? [sm=shake.gif] now that i know who it is, the op sound like another "oh everyone is so mean to me" person we had round here... boo hoo scrape it up chic! if you wanna call someone out, at least have the balls to do it by name!

Jeffff -> RE: I am what I claim, not what I do (3/3/2008 8:21:55 AM)
you too....differently..[8D] This thread is the perfect example of not having enough info! This is a Hall OF Fame Thread Pete Rose

MissHarlet -> RE: I am what I claim, not what I do (3/3/2008 8:29:22 AM)
An now we know " The Rest of the Story "

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