Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

Is Mitt Romney a Mormon or not


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid >> Is Mitt Romney a Mormon or not Page: [1]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
Is Mitt Romney a Mormon or not - 3/3/2008 5:48:46 AM   
mnottertail


Posts: 60698
Joined: 11/3/2004
Status: offline 		Is Mitt Romney a mass murderer? 
http://www.rickross.com/reference/mormon/mormon106.html

does he believe in an angel called Moroni?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_Moroni

Is he preparing to wipe the southwest off the face of the earth?
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8TVVEAG0&show_article=1

Will mitt romney be pulling the strings like an evil dictator for the next mouthpiece president of the united states (some yet unnamed republican, mccain some say......LOLOLOL, that is such a fucking pipedream)
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/02/the_big_picture_republicans_li.php

It is all there, it is clearly laid out in front of you.  Neo-Con and ignorant conservatives are out to destroy the american way of life.......

Ron 
Profile   Post #: 1
RE: Is Mitt Romney a Mormon or not - 3/3/2008 5:50:56 AM   
kittinSol


Posts: 16926
Status: offline

_____________________________



(in reply to mnottertail)
Profile   Post #: 2
RE: Is Mitt Romney a Mormon or not - 3/3/2008 6:17:07 AM   
SugarMyChurro


Posts: 1912
Joined: 4/26/2007
Status: offline 		See? This is why I wish they were all agnostics or atheists. I mean, they probably are agnostics and atheists privately - but publicly they have to claim to be religious to get the votes. That's what they think anyway.

But when you examine the religious beliefs of any such person it starts to get very surreal very quickly.

It's fucking insane!


(in reply to kittinSol)
Profile   Post #: 3
RE: Is Mitt Romney a Mormon or not - 3/3/2008 6:17:46 AM   
kittinSol


Posts: 16926
Status: offline 		See your cmail, Sugar.


_____________________________



(in reply to SugarMyChurro)
Profile   Post #: 4
RE: Is Mitt Romney a Mormon or not - 3/3/2008 6:25:23 AM   
LadyEllen


Posts: 10931
Joined: 6/30/2006
From: Stourport-England
Status: offline 		Just watch the shit fly, when they find out he's really black.....

Honestly I dont know why so many seem to get so uptight about all this stuff; we've got a Presbyterian running things here and we're alright - we still get to drink and smoke and play loud music and stay up late

E

_____________________________

In a test against the leading brand, 9 out of 10 participants couldnt tell the difference. Dumbasses.

(in reply to kittinSol)
Profile   Post #: 5
RE: Is Mitt Romney a Mormon or not - 3/3/2008 6:29:06 AM   
mnottertail


Posts: 60698
Joined: 11/3/2004
Status: offline 		Ollie Cromwell is having a fitful night in his grave, no doubt.

Louis Farrakhan

_____________________________

Have they not divided the prey; to every man a damsel or two? Judges 5:30


(in reply to LadyEllen)
Profile   Post #: 6
RE: Is Mitt Romney a Mormon or not - 3/3/2008 6:34:46 AM   
LadyEllen


Posts: 10931
Joined: 6/30/2006
From: Stourport-England
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Ollie Cromwell is having a fitful night in his grave, no doubt.

Louis Farrakhan


which grave? or do you mean all of them?

E

_____________________________

In a test against the leading brand, 9 out of 10 participants couldnt tell the difference. Dumbasses.

(in reply to mnottertail)
Profile   Post #: 7
RE: Is Mitt Romney a Mormon or not - 3/3/2008 6:37:45 AM   
mnottertail


Posts: 60698
Joined: 11/3/2004
Status: offline 		well, were you to attend to the search for his penis as we are rooting out the drug enhanced in the baseball industry, instead of worrying about the economy or the war or the infrastructure or...........

The world would be a much better place for all.  

_____________________________

Have they not divided the prey; to every man a damsel or two? Judges 5:30


(in reply to LadyEllen)
Profile   Post #: 8
RE: Is Mitt Romney a Mormon or not - 3/3/2008 6:40:34 AM   
kittinSol


Posts: 16926
Status: offline 		Does anybody else agree that America is one of the most divided societies? It's as if people sought out segregation. They remain ensconced in their ethnic and religious divides. I see it, but I don't understand it.

Perhaps the press is entirely to blame, as it plays up differences to make headlines fodder.

_____________________________



(in reply to LadyEllen)
Profile   Post #: 9
RE: Is Mitt Romney a Mormon or not - 3/3/2008 6:47:49 AM   
mnottertail


Posts: 60698
Joined: 11/3/2004
Status: offline 		Well I don't know who was the idiot that came up with the crap of 'melting pot', but it surely aint.  Look at america, ghetto after ghetto, Irish on the west side, chinatown, projects, little Italy, the barrio,  like that all over.  We've always been polarized, to some degree, sometimes more, sometimes less.



_____________________________

Have they not divided the prey; to every man a damsel or two? Judges 5:30


(in reply to kittinSol)
Profile   Post #: 10
RE: Is Mitt Romney a Mormon or not - 3/3/2008 6:54:58 AM   
OmegaG


Posts: 1474
Joined: 10/23/2007
Status: offline 		I am a FoMo (former Mormom), and I'll give answer as best I can with my allergy head.


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Is Mitt Romney a mass murderer? 
http://www.rickross.com/reference/mormon/mormon106.html

Mountian Meadows is an unfortunate event that happened in the early years of the Mormons colonization of Utah.  Leaders were not implicated and several men were convicted of the massacre.  The church itself has a hard time reconciling with it, some will ignore it, some will say that those who participated were not true members of the church, others will say they were acting on misguided beliefs.  No Mormon in this day and age condones the actions.

does he believe in an angel called Moroni?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_Moroni

Yes, this is part of LDS belief

Is he preparing to wipe the southwest off the face of the earth?
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8TVVEAG0&show_article=1

Will mitt romney be pulling the strings like an evil dictator for the next mouthpiece president of the united states (some yet unnamed republican, mccain some say......LOLOLOL, that is such a fucking pipedream)
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/02/the_big_picture_republicans_li.php

It is all there, it is clearly laid out in front of you.  Neo-Con and ignorant conservatives are out to destroy the american way of life.......

Ron 


My answers are in green, the last 2 questions don't seem to tie into Mormonism so I'll leave them alone.

_____________________________


Regret for the things we did can be tempered by time; it is regret for the things we did not do that is inconsolable. Sydney J. Harris

Sex without pain is like food without taste.
- de Sade

(in reply to mnottertail)
Profile   Post #: 11
RE: Is Mitt Romney a Mormon or not - 3/3/2008 6:54:59 AM   
kittinSol


Posts: 16926
Status: offline 		I wonder why the melting pot is such a pretty myth and not much else, and whether the original colons are to blame for the innate sense of superiority of the WASP class - which prevails to this day. Anybody who arrived after they did is less worthy than them.

It's surprising to me that a meritocratic society like America is more reliant on class and ethnicity than an old monarchy like England. If anybody's been to London... there is a melting-pot extraordinaire. People have beautiful caramel children with blond kinky hair and turquoise eyes. Sounds like utopia, doesn't it... perhaps I'm just hopelessly nostalgic :-) .

_____________________________



(in reply to mnottertail)
Profile   Post #: 12
RE: Is Mitt Romney a Mormon or not - 3/3/2008 8:31:08 AM   
Sinergy


Posts: 9383
Joined: 4/26/2004
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Does anybody else agree that America is one of the most divided societies? It's as if people sought out segregation. They remain ensconced in their ethnic and religious divides. I see it, but I don't understand it.

Perhaps the press is entirely to blame, as it plays up differences to make headlines fodder.


According to South Park, America was originally set up to allow us to do what we want, and complain about it.

This allows us to do anything and never take any responsibility for it.

Kylergy


_____________________________

"There is a fine line between clever and stupid"
David St. Hubbins "This Is Spinal Tap"

"Every so often you let a word or phrase out and you want to catch it and bring it back. You cant do that, it is gone, gone forever." J. Danforth Quayle


(in reply to kittinSol)
Profile   Post #: 13
RE: Is Mitt Romney a Mormon or not - 3/3/2008 8:36:46 AM   
MichiganHeadmast


Posts: 726
Joined: 8/13/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Does anybody else agree that America is one of the most divided societies? It's as if people sought out segregation. They remain ensconced in their ethnic and religious divides. I see it, but I don't understand it.

Perhaps the press is entirely to blame, as it plays up differences to make headlines fodder.


Nope, the entire world is exactly the same.  Travel and go off the beaten path and you'll find out.

One difference may be that in a homogenous society it won't be as apparent.  But ask your average Japanese what they think of Koreans.  And vice versa.  Not much love lost.  Nothing uniquely evil about the U.S., except for those who want to think so.  Human nature is human nature everywhere.

(in reply to kittinSol)
Profile   Post #: 14
RE: Is Mitt Romney a Mormon or not - 3/3/2008 8:55:55 AM   
DomKen


Posts: 19457
Joined: 7/4/2004
From: Chicago, IL
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: OmegaG

I am a FoMo (former Mormom), and I'll give answer as best I can with my allergy head.


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Is Mitt Romney a mass murderer? 
http://www.rickross.com/reference/mormon/mormon106.html

Mountian Meadows is an unfortunate event that happened in the early years of the Mormons colonization of Utah.  Leaders were not implicated and several men were convicted of the massacre.  The church itself has a hard time reconciling with it, some will ignore it, some will say that those who participated were not true members of the church, others will say they were acting on misguided beliefs.  No Mormon in this day and age condones the actions.


My answers are in green, the last 2 questions don't seem to tie into Mormonism so I'll leave them alone.

The Mountain Meadows Massacre was carried out by Brigham Young's proteges and Young actively participated in the cover up.

George A. Smith's, a member of the Quorum of Twelve Apostles, traveling party directed the Fancher party to Mountain Meadows despite knowing the Nauvoo Legion expected the US Army to come from that direction at that time and that the Legion was eager to fight and very poorly disciplined.

The degree of complicity of Mormon leadership can be debated but not the fact that Mormon leadership was involved.

(in reply to OmegaG)
Profile   Post #: 15
RE: Is Mitt Romney a Mormon or not - 3/3/2008 9:10:06 AM   
mnottertail


Posts: 60698
Joined: 11/3/2004
Status: offline 		Well, do you suppose this is all a lead-in to a setup to install Mitt Romney as FBI Director so the right-wing radicals can impose martial law in the US under the guise of homeland security?

That way, John McCain (or more likely by signing statement George Bush) can keep us in the Middle East for a 1,000 years, and Rush Limbaugh will never be denied the airwaves to spew idiotic shit forever, and the neo-con radicals can bankrupt our nation and sell us down the river, all the while using the cover of the undeniable six-degrees of separation between Obama and someone who has met Farrakhan?

This would distract anyone with a brain, thru the very act of eating it, that the neo-con sects have bankrupted the united states, have had the most atrocious record on human rights violations, legal violations,  and have not done one iota of good in all their administrations, yet foisting a president with no 'experience' i.e Ronald Reagan, George Bush and so on, inharmoniously point out that Obama has never been president before and with the sky falling will ruin us all.

Or do you think they are just whining?

Ron  

< Message edited by mnottertail -- 3/3/2008 9:12:01 AM >

_____________________________

Have they not divided the prey; to every man a damsel or two? Judges 5:30


(in reply to DomKen)
Profile   Post #: 16
RE: Is Mitt Romney a Mormon or not - 3/3/2008 9:10:57 AM   
kittinSol


Posts: 16926
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: MichiganHeadmast

Travel and go off the beaten path and you'll find out.



Actually, I have come off the beaten path and ended up in New Hampshire  . I come from elsewhere. I'm an alien, MichiganHeadmast :-) .

This is why I stand as an interested outside observer of this country, even though I live in it. I'm a recent arrival, if you like.

_____________________________



(in reply to MichiganHeadmast)
Profile   Post #: 17
RE: Is Mitt Romney a Mormon or not - 3/3/2008 9:16:42 AM   
OmegaG


Posts: 1474
Joined: 10/23/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

quote:

ORIGINAL: OmegaG

I am a FoMo (former Mormom), and I'll give answer as best I can with my allergy head.


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Is Mitt Romney a mass murderer? 
http://www.rickross.com/reference/mormon/mormon106.html

Mountian Meadows is an unfortunate event that happened in the early years of the Mormons colonization of Utah.  Leaders were not implicated and several men were convicted of the massacre.  The church itself has a hard time reconciling with it, some will ignore it, some will say that those who participated were not true members of the church, others will say they were acting on misguided beliefs.  No Mormon in this day and age condones the actions.


My answers are in green, the last 2 questions don't seem to tie into Mormonism so I'll leave them alone.

The Mountain Meadows Massacre was carried out by Brigham Young's proteges and Young actively participated in the cover up.

George A. Smith's, a member of the Quorum of Twelve Apostles, traveling party directed the Fancher party to Mountain Meadows despite knowing the Nauvoo Legion expected the US Army to come from that direction at that time and that the Legion was eager to fight and very poorly disciplined.

The degree of complicity of Mormon leadership can be debated but not the fact that Mormon leadership was involved.


It's useless to argue Brigham Young's involvement, some will say that he had no knowlege, others will argue that it ws carried out on his orders.  The facts are simply that he was not tried nor convicted.  I feel that many Mormons do a diservice to their public image by pretending that there was no LDS involvement at all since the key players were in fact Mormons.  By distancing themselves and pretending it never happens opens the flood gates of negative conjecture.

Bringham Young was a man of his time and circumstance.  It was a bloody time for Mormons and non-Mormons alike and people were often shot with the smallest prevocation

To hold Mitt Romney or any other present day LDS accountable for the actions that took place at the time would be like holding a present day Catholic accountable for the inquisition.

_____________________________


Regret for the things we did can be tempered by time; it is regret for the things we did not do that is inconsolable. Sydney J. Harris

Sex without pain is like food without taste.
- de Sade

(in reply to DomKen)
Profile   Post #: 18
Page:   [1]
All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid >> Is Mitt Romney a Mormon or not Page: [1]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.086