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New NiN - 3/3/2008 9:36:48 AM   
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As some of you may have heard from slashdot, or another site, Nine Inch Nails has a new album out. The best part, is they didn't do this through a record label. Much like Radiohead did a year and a half ago, they're releasing the album directly through their site - and even offering [part of] it for free. The album is free of vocals, and was compiled in ten weeks. There's much variety to be had, and 36 tracks in all. The first 9 tracks are available for free, and the album as a whole is only $5 for all 36 tracks. If you like having physical CDs, it's $10 for the two CD set.

http://ghosts.nin.com/main/order_options


The RIAA's going to be pissed when this catches on with more artists... and that makes me happy.
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RE: New NiN - 3/3/2008 9:56:53 AM   
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RE: New NiN - 3/3/2008 10:00:58 AM   
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YAY!!

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RE: New NiN - 3/3/2008 10:31:43 AM   
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Thanks for the heads-up.

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RE: New NiN - 3/3/2008 11:45:32 AM   
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Woohoo!  A band I like,and I dont have to shell out an arm and a leg for it!!!

ugh...mondays...


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RE: New NiN - 3/3/2008 5:00:21 PM   
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Official torrent on The Pirate Bay:
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/4059158/Nine_Inch_Nails_-_Ghosts_I_(2008)

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RE: New NiN - 3/3/2008 5:04:19 PM   
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Am I the only one reading the title of this thread and thinking..." CaddyShack"?


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RE: New NiN - 3/3/2008 6:26:36 PM   
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Am I the only one reading the title of this thread and thinking..." CaddyShack"?


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RE: New NiN - 3/3/2008 6:39:05 PM   
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I'll be the first to say it.  NIN sucks. 

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RE: New NiN - 3/3/2008 6:53:42 PM   
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Well, I liked the first 2-3 albums pretty well - and then yes, it was like Reznor hit a creative wall.

I still support his anti-corporate stance as far as music distribution goes. I don't agree with him on every point, but at least he's trying to find his way forward.

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RE: New NiN - 3/4/2008 3:36:12 AM   
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I don't really get that.... no NiN album sounds like the last one, and it gos to show Reznor's overall range. In Ghosts there's a range from standard industrial sound, to more of an ambience/EDM feel. Works for me.

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RE: New NiN - 3/4/2008 4:15:27 AM   
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I'll be the first to say it.  NIN sucks. 


Yeah - we may disagree on that, but I still think ya sexy...
 
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RE: New NiN - 3/4/2008 4:21:31 AM   
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Well, I liked the first 2-3 albums pretty well - and then yes, it was like Reznor hit a creative wall.

I still support his anti-corporate stance as far as music distribution goes. I don't agree with him on every point, but at least he's trying to find his way forward.


Hey Sugar, you know I think your ideas on music rock!

I pretty much think Reznor is god - so I might be biased hey.  I LOVED yearzero - probably one of the best entire albums they produced most recently, and so I'm looking forward to hearing this (Darcy has downloaded it for me - so two days for me and counting) - I supported Trents last download endeavour and I like this idea even better than the Radiohead version (now that is saying something, seeing as Radiohead is my No.1) - with the whole copyright free Ideas etc.  I'm looking forward to the break downs too that Darcy explained will be coming with the eventual set.  Although for the elite set - sounds kinda expensive to me I can see people purchasing it.
 
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RE: New NiN - 3/4/2008 4:24:17 AM   
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I think I'm the only person on this planet that finds NiN completely annoying.

edited to add...besides slaveboy.  Ha.  That'll teach me to read the whole thread before replying. 

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RE: New NiN - 3/4/2008 4:56:16 AM   
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I don't even know who the hell they are...........

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RE: New NiN - 3/5/2008 4:59:15 AM   
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Nine Inch Nails Sells Out Of $300 Deluxe Edition In Under Two Days
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080304/162842435.shtml

Mike Linksvayer points out that this option is now sold out, meaning that Reznor grossed $750,000 in just a couple of days on that package alone, not taking into account any of the other packages that many more people likely bought into.

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RE: New NiN - 3/5/2008 5:41:00 AM   
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unfortuneatly, this is more proof that trent reznor can do nothing original now. Congrats, trent, you are an embarassment to the cleveland music scene.

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RE: New NiN - 3/5/2008 8:51:39 AM   
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unfortuneatly, this is more proof that trent reznor can do nothing original now. Congrats, trent, you are an embarassment to the cleveland music scene.


This is Darcy

Care to expand on your 'can do nothing original' statement? I'm curious as to why you think that.

Along with Radiohead, who by releasing In Rainbows for download on 10 October last year pipped Reznor's first foray into the download market (with his protege Saul Williams' album The Inevitable Rise And Liberation Of Niggy Tardust) to the post by three weeks, Reznor is pretty much pioneering the way that music is promoted and sold on the internet these days, and in offering this latest release under the 'Creative Commons' copyright system, is allowing anybody to use the music for any project, or remix that they want, pretty much free of the usual copyright infringement issues.

This is itself an extension of the recently opened www.remix.nin.com website, on which Reznor has created a groundbreaking, and yes original, forum where fans can download the component parts of various NIN tracks and then remix and post them for the rest of the community to comment on and download.

More originality came with the ARG (alternate reality game) that Reznor created, and paid for out of his own pocket, that gave NIN fans a fascinating 'treasure hunt' for the two months prior to last year's March release of yearzero. This took viral marketing and the concept of the ARG to new heights, and is now being used as the template for other record company campaigns (all of whom are, of course, claiming it as their own original idea).

As for the deluxe editions, I say fair play to him. I personally shelled out for the $75 version because I'm a huge fan, and this - much like the $80/£40 Discbox that Radiohead put out to accompany their In Rainbows release - is a great way to replace any revenue that may be lost these days through file sharing. There are some who complain that this is ripping off the fans, but how? You can download the whole album for $5 (less than the price of a pint of beer here in the UK), or get a physical double CD for $10. Nobody has to get the deluxe editions. I'm lucky in that I can afford to splash out on it, but if I weren't then I'd still be able to get the music for next to nothing.

As a music fan, and in particular a NIN fan, I'm very impressed at this latest venture. It means that we can get music the minute an artist wants to release it, rather than waiting for record companies to dictate release dates, and it gives us the choice as to whether we want to pay $5 for the bare bones album, or $75 for the nicely packaged version.

As for the album, I really like it. As wkdshadow says, no two NIN albums sound alike, and I love the range of music on here. Some is reminiscent of previous work, other parts are definite new territory (is that a banjo in there? ;) ).

Not for everyone, but I never understand people who just say things like 'NIN suck!". At least explain why they suck for you. I'm curious. Too loud? Too distorted? Too complicated? Too deep? Not Top 40 enough for you? Too challenging? Not enough like Britney, or Justin? I'm curious - enlighten me! :)

Ah well, takes all sorts. I'm happy, and liking it, so all is good. :)

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RE: New NiN - 3/5/2008 9:35:20 AM   
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Darcy:

My problem with Reznor is simply this: I prefer the work of his heroes, to his own work. To be more precise, I really like the work of Bowie, Eno, Joy Division, Throbbing Gristle, Coil (post-TG members), and J.G. Thirlwell (a.k.a. Foetus). Hell, you can add Queen and Adam Ant to that list also. I just find Reznor's work very derivative after "Broken"/"Fixed." I can throw in the song "Closer" from "The Downward Spiral" as being an important work, but the rest of the album felt a bit like remixes of the one song to me. Beyond that, I prefer his collaborative efforts with Bowie and Eno on a bit of "Outside" (a magnificent, often overlooked work in which Reznor's influence is very apparent - also probably Bowie's last good work after a long career of being stunningly brilliant) and Saul Williams on "Niggy Tardust."

If he weren't himself, I'd say Reznor would obviously really like to be Foetus. His musical stylings and imagery scream Foetus.

Just sayin'...



Talking about the biz side of things:

I didn't pay a dime for "In Rainbows" when it came out but I was given the deluxe book set (vinyl, CDS, stickers. etc) for Xmas this last year. So I guess it all works out in the end.


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RE: New NiN - 3/5/2008 10:53:44 AM   
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Darcy,
Personally, I get the feeling that his albums these days are just him following whatever is popular. I would like and respect him much more as a person and as an artist if he just did what he really wanted to do, instead of whatever is popular. just my opinions there.

As for releasing an album online for free, its a brilliant idea. Ive said it before, and Ill say it again, artists make little to no money off of albm sales unless it goes platinum at the very least. all the money goes to the retailers and record labels.

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