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RE: Rush Limbaugh tells Texas Republicans to vote for H... - 3/5/2008 7:58:07 AM   
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      Does it bother you, O59, that Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter are both endorsing your candidate?  Are you going to have start liking them now???  We have always been at war with Eastasia...


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RE: Rush Limbaugh tells Texas Republicans to vote for H... - 3/5/2008 8:01:03 AM   
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      Yes, I'd heard about that.  Quit his day job already, did he?


The joy of being a rich television personality with a wide popular base.

He can happily quit his day job if he wants to.

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p.s.  I always thought Limbaugh was funny to listen to.  The problem I had with him was when you actually researched anything he talked about, or (heaven forbid) worked in the industry (as I did) that he was talking about, I ended up learning that the man lies and/or has no real clue about the things I knew about.  By extrapolation, it is not too big a stretch of the imagination to think that if he is clueless about things I know about, is he also clueless about things I dont know about.

edited to point out that I listened to the twaddle he spewed during the 2002 LOCKOUT by PMA against the longshore union.  He towed the party line stating that it was a "strike" by the longshoreman.  He also never bothered to state that the reason the lockout ended was because organized labor around the globe called up George W. Bush and said they would refuse to unload any ships loaded by scab labor.


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RE: Rush Limbaugh tells Texas Republicans to vote for H... - 3/5/2008 8:34:01 AM   
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If you think his show sucks....then don't listen to it. 


I think dog fighting sucks.But I will react to it and do the right thing.I certainly won`t ignore it.

I think neo-cons putting out ads calling McCain a war coward and father of illegitimate kids is disgusting.Doesn`t mean I`ll ignore it.Hell no! I`m going to mention it and tell people.

I think the neo-con whisper/email campaigns against Mr Obama is typical and disgusting .Blaming Hillary for it,just as disgusting.

Should I ignore that?Fuck no.

Hey,if this thread is so sucky,then don`t respond.Maybe you should take your own advice.

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RE: Rush Limbaugh tells Texas Republicans to vote for H... - 3/5/2008 9:02:49 AM   
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This is nothing new and not something the republicans came up with. Both parties have been doing it for years. I remember the first time I ever heard the idea was from a democrat who wanted me to vote republican in the primary.

This year I heard the democrats wanted us to vote McCain and all the logic that went with it. 





That`s a buncha bull shit.

Name one Democrat or liberal spokesperson that has directed dems to meddle with a republican primary.

The point of the thread,was to point out that there is a very powerful right-wing media personality with millions of listeners,directing his minions to fuck with our primary.

I defy anyone to name a similar example of this,on the liberal side.

This "both parties do it" crap is just the pathetic whimper-explanations of folks caught red-handed cheating.Pretty lame too.

Like UMs getting caught taking cookies from the jar,they cry,"but the others do it too".<whah-whah>Just as lame.

Most people break the speed limit,but there are some who drive at over a 100 MPH every fuck`n day and endanger every driver on the road.

You can technically say,that they`re all speeders,but hey,it`s silly to say they`re all the same

There`s the distinction.

Again.Why do republicans have to cheat and steel in order to win elections?

The Patriots should have never made it to the Super Bowl.
Cheaters suck.

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RE: Rush Limbaugh tells Texas Republicans to vote for H... - 3/5/2008 9:16:11 AM   
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Why do republicans have to cheat and steel in order to win elections?


I don't know - Why do Democrats have to blame someone when they loose elections?

(Posted by someone still hoping to vote for Senator Obama.)

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RE: Rush Limbaugh tells Texas Republicans to vote for H... - 3/5/2008 9:36:16 AM   
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Why do republicans have to cheat and steel in order to win elections?


I don't know - Why do Democrats have to blame someone when they loose elections?

(Posted by someone still hoping to vote for Senator Obama.)



Who do you blame for the Patriots cheating.

Iraq?

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RE: Rush Limbaugh tells Texas Republicans to vote for H... - 3/5/2008 9:44:55 AM   
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Why do republicans have to cheat and steel in order to win elections?


I don't know - Why do Democrats have to blame someone when they loose elections?

(Posted by someone still hoping to vote for Senator Obama.)



Who do you blame for the Patriots cheating.

Iraq?

Nah - that's easy - President Bush.  

However, I hear that the next campaign ad being put out by Senator Obama will point to the fact that she's the Senator from NY and her team won even though they were 14 point underdogs.

He's also going to pose a couple of related questions at her: 

"In what State do the NY Giants play their home games?" 

"If the phone rings at 3:00 a.m. and its Michael Stranhan and he wants to 'Blitz' you - do you let him?"

Looking forward to the next 8 weeks! I'm back to putting SNL on my TIVO list.

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RE: Rush Limbaugh tells Texas Republicans to vote for H... - 3/5/2008 10:28:24 AM   
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"The saddest part is that caller after caller to his show has called to say they've done exactly that — voted early for Clinton in the Texas primary so as to rig the election. The actions by Limbaugh and his listeners are simply appalling. The Founding Fathers of Texas and America would be disgusted by this behavior and rhetoric. Limbaugh has the right to say whatever he pleases on air, but we do not have to condone or participate in his immoral and un-American sentiments".


What is immoral about voting that way? Every citizen is entitled to use his or her vote however he or she wishes--that is the essence of democratic process. Sometimes we vote for, sometimes we vote against.

Given that McCain generally polls better against Hillary than Obama, if I were a Republican strategist, keeping Hillary in the game definitely confers strategic advantage on McCain.

Rush's suggestion is merely good tactical politics.


Read up buddy,these are primaries.Not the general election.

Jesshhh, what a load of steam that rant was.

Maybe sports or the weather is your forte.

btw,that`s a quote from the artical,not me.


Billary and Hussein bashing each other throughout the spring gives competitive advantage to McCain. He has a window of time to sharpen his message, make peace with various Republican party factions, and generally gird himself for the fall campaign.

The historical trend favors the political party who selects its candidate first. Hillary and Obama continuing their love-fest into the convention is a significant competitive advantage to McCain.

If Hillary wins the nomination, the Republicans get to ask all those embarrassing questions about Whitewater, Travelgate, the billing records from Rose Law firm that miraculously appeared in the White House that floated around Billary Presidency #1. She plays the same attack dog politics the Republicans do, and has a few more skeletons in the closet than McCain.

So, damn skippy I'd tell Republicans to vote in the primary for Hillary. Especially now that McCain has cinched the nomination, the best thing the Republicans could do in the remaining primaries is get out and stump for Hillary.


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RE: Rush Limbaugh tells Texas Republicans to vote for H... - 3/5/2008 10:30:50 AM   
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Welcome to politics as it's played among the grown ups.

I still don't see why the moral outrage. Politics awards no prizes for second place. If you aren't going all out to win, you have no business being in the contest.

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RE: Rush Limbaugh tells Texas Republicans to vote for H... - 3/5/2008 10:37:27 AM   
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        Can't stand "reality shows" as a general rule, but I loved The Osbournes. 

       Limbaugh is very good at radio, whether you like him or not.  The reason Air America died is because their hosts were not.  Discounting his ability to put on a quality program only makes him harder to counter.


I disagree...Air America failed because democrats didn't tune in....I believe people on the left don't feel the need to be continually pandered to and to have their own beliefs continually regurgitated back up for their consumption. I don't need to be continually reminded as to how my own thoughts are superior to that of others.


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RE: Rush Limbaugh tells Texas Republicans to vote for H... - 3/5/2008 10:44:02 AM   
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... the best thing the Republicans could do in the remaining primaries is get out and stump for Hillary.


Have you ever heard the expression, "Be careful what you wish for?"
 
Polls taken in March, are mostly useful in March, and somewhat less useful in November. Senator Clinton has high negatives, but primarily to voters that will never vote for her anyway. She will be very hard to "Swift Boat." There are really no attack that can be aimed, that have not already been aimed, many times.

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RE: Rush Limbaugh tells Texas Republicans to vote for H... - 3/5/2008 10:52:39 AM   
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... the best thing the Republicans could do in the remaining primaries is get out and stump for Hillary.


Have you ever heard the expression, "Be careful what you wish for?"

Polls taken in March, are mostly useful in March, and somewhat less useful in November. Senator Clinton has high negatives, but primarily to voters that will never vote for her anyway. She will be very hard to "Swift Boat." There are really no attack that can be aimed, that have not already been aimed, many times.


If it were just Hillary and McCain from now until November...I would indeed be concerned.

However, the math is not Hillary's friend. Even if Republicans turn out en masse for her, the best she can hope for is a brokered convention. Obama still has a small numbers edge if that happens.

However, strong showing by Hillary in a few more states would mean the best Obama could hope for is that same brokered convention. Would either of them be statesmanlike enough to bring the Democrats together effectively for the fall campaign? Their behavior thus far does not augur well for that.

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RE: Rush Limbaugh tells Texas Republicans to vote for H... - 3/5/2008 11:10:05 AM   
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"The saddest part is that caller after caller to his show has called to say they've done exactly that — voted early for Clinton in the Texas primary so as to rig the election. The actions by Limbaugh and his listeners are simply appalling. The Founding Fathers of Texas and America would be disgusted by this behavior and rhetoric. Limbaugh has the right to say whatever he pleases on air, but we do not have to condone or participate in his immoral and un-American sentiments".


What is immoral about voting that way? Every citizen is entitled to use his or her vote however he or she wishes--that is the essence of democratic process. Sometimes we vote for, sometimes we vote against.

Given that McCain generally polls better against Hillary than Obama, if I were a Republican strategist, keeping Hillary in the game definitely confers strategic advantage on McCain.

Rush's suggestion is merely good tactical politics.


Read up buddy,these are primaries.Not the general election.

Jesshhh, what a load of steam that rant was.

Maybe sports or the weather is your forte.

btw,that`s a quote from the artical,not me.


Billary and Hussein bashing each other throughout the spring gives competitive advantage to McCain. He has a window of time to sharpen his message, make peace with various Republican party factions, and generally gird himself for the fall campaign.

The historical trend favors the political party who selects its candidate first. Hillary and Obama continuing their love-fest into the convention is a significant competitive advantage to McCain.

If Hillary wins the nomination, the Republicans get to ask all those embarrassing questions about Whitewater, Travelgate, the billing records from Rose Law firm that miraculously appeared in the White House that floated around Billary Presidency #1. She plays the same attack dog politics the Republicans do, and has a few more skeletons in the closet than McCain.

So, damn skippy I'd tell Republicans to vote in the primary for Hillary. Especially now that McCain has cinched the nomination, the best thing the Republicans could do in the remaining primaries is get out and stump for Hillary.

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RE: Rush Limbaugh tells Texas Republicans to vote for H... - 3/5/2008 11:11:33 AM   
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I was simply pointing out that strategy today, based on polls taken today, may end up being a foolish play in November.
 
I would like to point out where Senator McCain stood in the polls, six months ago.
 
I might also point out that some of the people that are now coming up with creative ways to get Senator McCain elected, are people that not long ago told us they would never vote for Senator McCain.

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RE: Rush Limbaugh tells Texas Republicans to vote for H... - 3/5/2008 11:15:27 AM   
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"The saddest part is that caller after caller to his show has called to say they've done exactly that — voted early for Clinton in the Texas primary so as to rig the election. The actions by Limbaugh and his listeners are simply appalling. The Founding Fathers of Texas and America would be disgusted by this behavior and rhetoric. Limbaugh has the right to say whatever he pleases on air, but we do not have to condone or participate in his immoral and un-American sentiments".


What is immoral about voting that way? Every citizen is entitled to use his or her vote however he or she wishes--that is the essence of democratic process. Sometimes we vote for, sometimes we vote against.

Given that McCain generally polls better against Hillary than Obama, if I were a Republican strategist, keeping Hillary in the game definitely confers strategic advantage on McCain.

Rush's suggestion is merely good tactical politics.


Read up buddy,these are primaries.Not the general election.

Jesshhh, what a load of steam that rant was.

Maybe sports or the weather is your forte.

btw,that`s a quote from the artical,not me.


Billary and Hussein bashing each other throughout the spring gives competitive advantage to McCain. He has a window of time to sharpen his message, make peace with various Republican party factions, and generally gird himself for the fall campaign.

The historical trend favors the political party who selects its candidate first. Hillary and Obama continuing their love-fest into the convention is a significant competitive advantage to McCain.

If Hillary wins the nomination, the Republicans get to ask all those embarrassing questions about Whitewater, Travelgate, the billing records from Rose Law firm that miraculously appeared in the White House that floated around Billary Presidency #1. She plays the same attack dog politics the Republicans do, and has a few more skeletons in the closet than McCain.

So, damn skippy I'd tell Republicans to vote in the primary for Hillary. Especially now that McCain has cinched the nomination, the best thing the Republicans could do in the remaining primaries is get out and stump for Hillary.

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RE: Rush Limbaugh tells Texas Republicans to vote for H... - 3/5/2008 11:17:30 AM   
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Who is fucking cheerleaders? And why would any real man do that? Because they can't deal with real women? Yanno, I see the ads for "drunk college chicks on spring break" or whatever, and they are a complete turn-off for me. Who was it who said about Oakland, "there's no "there" there?" That's how I feel about those 18 year-old suckers. Give 'em some tequila, some GBH, some weed, some Soma, whatever, get 'em fucked up, film them doing shit, and sell it as "girls gone wild". Scum.


Let me do some education for you. Cheerleading is when someone roots for just one party, no matter what. Where they just make accusations against the other party, and ignore any wrong doing in their party. This goes for Republicans and Democrats.

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Division tactics for a party. Kinda like "Willie Horton", eh? When the refucks played the race card big time by telling all the Nascar nitwits that Willie Horton and his Hordes of Black Blacks will be descending on your city shortly, riotin' and shootin' the white Po-leeece, and grapin' them young white wimmens.

That what you mean? Or when Karl der Fuck started all that shit about McCain havin' hisself a pickaninny? A little checkerboard baby? What a piece of shit that Rove pig is. Catamite Felcher.

Just so there's no confusion, my reply is directed at that OnionWolf dude.


Yeah that is what I mean as well as the "Let's get all the rich people." "Look at all the secret racism in whitey." "Let's go against anyone that is Christian, because they believe in fairy tales." or any other type of comment from one party cheerleader or another.

Just so there is no confusion my comments are directed at that "dropped too much cid in my younger days" dude.
In the future, just for you, I will label humourous sarcastic tomfoolery as such.

So tell me, Bwana, just who is it that said "Let's get all the rich people"? Who said, "...secret racism..."? Who said "...against anyone who is Christian..."? Got some links?

Just to be clear, my remarks are directed at the dude who didn't drop enough acid.

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RE: Rush Limbaugh tells Texas Republicans to vote for H... - 3/5/2008 11:25:27 AM   
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Sharing a ticket? These two camps will have a lot of ground to reconcile. Would either Senator Clinton or Senator Obama risk the possibility that they are correct about their adversary and be identified with them for life by running as their VP?

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Tempers flared at several Texas voting precincts, and the campaigns of Sens. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) and Barack Obama (D-Ill.) traded accusations of rule-breaking yesterday during the hours leading up to evening caucuses where one-third of the state's delegates were to be awarded.

In Ohio, elections officials held some polls open for an additional 90 minutes because of winter weather and ballot shortages. The extended voting caused a delay of several hours before the state could ultimately be called for Clinton, largely because of late voting in the Cleveland area, an expected Obama stronghold.

In Texas, the two-step process of a primary vote during the day, followed by an evening caucus, had participants waiting under the stars as voting crowds swamped the event. Their turnout delayed the caucus events at numerous precincts across the state. In Laredo, a volunteer organizer brought a microphone and a portable speaker from home to try to calm the crowd. But he was drowned out by chants of "We want to vote!" and "We're getting cheated!" Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/04/AR2008030403662_pf.html


In the spirit of reconciliation, rumor has it that CSN&Y are planning a reunion concert for Denver and Abby Hoffman's daughter is scheduled to give a keynote address at the National Convention in August.

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RE: Rush Limbaugh tells Texas Republicans to vote for H... - 3/5/2008 11:25:31 AM   
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I was simply pointing out that strategy today, based on polls taken today, may end up being a foolish play in November.

I would like to point out where Senator McCain stood in the polls, six months ago.

I might also point out that some of the people that are now coming up with creative ways to get Senator McCain elected, are people that not long ago told us they would never vote for Senator McCain.


One has to make decisions today with information available today. Hand wringing over what ifs is how battles (and elections) are lost.

However, regardless of polls, recent history suggests there is a competitive advantage to the party who nominates their candidate first, and a significant disadvantage to the party who fields a candidate via a brokered convention (Adlai Stevenson in 1956, Barry Goldwater in 1964, Hubert Humphrey in 1968). Republicans stumping for Hillary at this point would be one way to push the Democrats towards a brokered convention, to secure strategic advantage for McCain regardless of who the Dems put forward.

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RE: Rush Limbaugh tells Texas Republicans to vote for H... - 3/5/2008 11:33:29 AM   
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Sharing a ticket? These two camps will have a lot of ground to reconcile. Would either Senator Clinton or Senator Obama risk the possibility that they are correct about their adversary and be identified with them for life by running as their VP?


The shared ticket might very well be the strongest matchup the Democrats could field. The Republicans did this in 1980 with Reagan/Bush.

But could either camp come up with sufficient rhetoric to paper over their current stance that neither is qualified to be president? If Hillary's main argument is that Obama is too inexperienced....how can she justify putting him the proverbial "heartbeat away" from the office she pronounced him unfit to hold? If Obama derides Hillary as an insider, what becomes of his "Change" mantra if she's the VP?

Hillary's showing she's thinking strategically by talking about the shared ticket. It positions her as looking past the primaries, past the convention, towards the demands of the fall campaign--in short, acting "presidential". Will it be enough to woo sufficient superdelegatesto win the nomination? Only time will tell.

However, if Obama maintains his advantage and does indeed secure the nomination, if his strongest choice for running mate is Hillary, has he positioned himself to make peace with the Clintons and make that choice? At this moment, I don't see it.

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RE: Rush Limbaugh tells Texas Republicans to vote for H... - 3/5/2008 11:37:15 AM   
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Well, we have no history of someone running against a minority or a woman. History is a tool, but not the bible, so to speak.
 
In the interest of further debate, aren't you as a Republican, a bit worried about the base of the two candidates?
 
If the assumption is made that Senator Obama will attract African-American voters, and Senator Clinton Hispanics and women ... what is the percentage makeup of the electorate for those groups?
 
In Senator Obama, the right can make a case for a hyper-liberal that is soft and inexperienced on defense. Can the right really make that case against Senator Clinton?
 
I'm sorry, but if I was a Republican, which I'm not, I would be praying for a race against Senator Obama, and hoping it happens very soon. My worst nightmare would be a race against Senator Clinton, with only enough time to allow face-to-face debates as the primary tool to show the differences between our positions.
 
I guess you can tell how much I value the current polls.  

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