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RE: Proper deep-throat training - 3/6/2008 12:13:29 PM   
solvr70


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Find a dentist friend and get some of the stuff that numbs the back of the throat.
I'm told it taste like bananas...


Thinking that is a great idea, but not exactly sure how one would bring that up.

also not sure if that would work with a strapon as well since most are not exactly super flexible.


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RE: Proper deep-throat training - 3/6/2008 1:21:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		The dental stuff is merely 20% benzocaine in a gel or spray.  Just as it numbs your throat, it could have an effect on other parts that come in contact with it.  Kinda like why alot of people avoid Anal-eaze... it not only numbs the "receiver", it has an effect on the "giver."

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RE: Proper deep-throat training - 3/6/2008 3:27:38 PM   
lytehaze


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Status: offline 		These are the steps I’d recommend:
1. Start by getting comfortable with something in the far back of the mouth. Practice with a popsicle or dildo, learning to avoid teeth and flatten tongue. Work on changing the gag reflex. Kind of like with contacts: at first everyone flinches at a finger to the eye but do it enough and the reflex relaxes to accommodate. She could try simply touching the tonsils for progressively longer periods (not enough to vomit but she'll soon learn that threshold).

2. Then work on actually entering the throat. A position with angles where the mouth and throat are aligned as opposed to perpendicular is better. She could try lying on a bed with her head hanging off the side, or couch, whatever. Relaxing is very important as to avoid injury and sore throats. She should go slow and with an object she can regulate, like a popsicle or dildo. Actually entering the esophagus can be painful at first so perhaps a numbing spray like “Deep Throat Oral Spray” or regular old “Vicks” would help. Eventually there’s a buildup of spit which makes things easier.

3. Once she’s ok with doing it by herself try it together. But be willing to go slow so she can adjust/relax and learn to like it. I agree that breathing through the nose is not the best. If something is inside of your windpipe breathing isn’t really very possible. She simply has to wait until you retreat enough to allow her a breath. Eventually you will both learn each others rhythms if you haven’t set one up from the start (which I don’t recommend. Counting makes things a bit awkward and it’s harder to concentrate on the fun).

4. Once you‘ve got all that the rest is just technique and personal preference. “Look up, look down, tongue out, tongue in, hum, shut-up” etc.

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RE: Proper deep-throat training - 3/6/2008 5:00:42 PM   
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Practice makes perfect.


I agree

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RE: Proper deep-throat training - 3/6/2008 7:58:49 PM   
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... *choke .. pull back .. *WHACK* ... cough cough .. choke pull back *WHACK* ... snort .. droool.... choke ... pull back *WHACK WHACK WHACK* .. droool ... choke .,. gag .. choke .. suck   .... suck .. gag ... suck  ... "good girl!"


knows that wont be any help to the uninitiated ..



i am LMAO!!  that is pretty much how my training in deep throating is going at the moment only throw in a few "tongue out",  "i said, get that tongue out"

too funny!!  made my day!

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RE: Proper deep-throat training - 3/6/2008 10:11:22 PM   
postulant


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Status: offline 		One word.  Swallow.  When the glans hits the back of your throat, literally start swallowing.  You need to be really conscious of it at first and work at getting  those muscles to work with you instead of trying to evict the "intruder" but once you recognize how to do it, it will get easier every time.  One of those muscle memory things, I think.

I'm curious, those of you that have suggested practicing with an inanimate object, is that something that has actually worked for y'all?  I mean has that translated to significant improvement or successful mastery of deep-throating skills for anybody?  I would genuinely like to know.

p.

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RE: Proper deep-throat training - 3/6/2008 10:26:56 PM   
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LA, an idle curiousity question...there are quite a few men who detest a hand on their cock during a blowjob...my Master for one, doesn't allow it under any circumstances...so what do you do when you come across someone like that? just refuse to do it?

Depends on the situation- it's very rare for me to be with someone who is not only dominant over me, but also disliking my technique.  But in such cases, they direct me and I follow it as best I can- I might not be able to please them very much because the problem really is that I have a small mouth, there's just no changing that.  I won't refuse, but they tend to realize fairly quickly that the problem isn't about not wanting to take them into my mouth.

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RE: Proper deep-throat training - 3/6/2008 10:54:20 PM   
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i've never understood the "breathe through your nose" advice...when something blocks the airway, it doesn't matter, the nose doesn't have it's own passage to the  lungs.  its more a matter of knowing you will get to breathe and taking advantage of those moments.


That has been my experience as well.  When the mouth and throat are so filled, the sinus passage is blocked at the back of my head.  No air is going in through my nose at that point, or out, for that matter.  Sometimes I'm too focused on relaxing the throat and keeping the gag reflexes in check to think about how to breathe.  So I go on faith that I'll catch a breath when I can.  Sometimes it's just holding the lips open a little more to let some air sneak in before tightening them back around again.

One of the more enjoyable yet difficult positions for me is when I am on the back and he is on top of me, because as he comes down, his body smothers my face so my nose is totally covered as well as my mouth. 

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RE: Proper deep-throat training - 3/7/2008 2:32:35 AM   
eyesopened


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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

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ORIGINAL: eyesopened
i've never understood the "breathe through your nose" advice...when something blocks the airway, it doesn't matter, the nose doesn't have it's own passage to the  lungs.  its more a matter of knowing you will get to breathe and taking advantage of those moments.


That has been my experience as well.  When the mouth and throat are so filled, the sinus passage is blocked at the back of my head.  No air is going in through my nose at that point, or out, for that matter.  Sometimes I'm too focused on relaxing the throat and keeping the gag reflexes in check to think about how to breathe.  So I go on faith that I'll catch a breath when I can.  Sometimes it's just holding the lips open a little more to let some air sneak in before tightening them back around again.

One of the more enjoyable yet difficult positions for me is when I am on the back and he is on top of me, because as he comes down, his body smothers my face so my nose is totally covered as well as my mouth. 


mmmm!  yes, and i don't wanna hear the "i hang my head over the edge of the bed and watch my throat expand with his cock" stuff either.  When i'm in that position all i can observe is taint!  Master once tried to work out the refraction angles to calculate just how many mirrors it would take to see ones own throat from that position.  i can't remember the exact number but it was a lot.  But then fantasy is fun too!

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RE: Proper deep-throat training - 3/7/2008 3:13:01 AM   
ownedgirlie


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Status: offline 		LOL yeah my view is a little...um...obstructed in that position, too. 

That's pretty funny about the mirrors.

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RE: Proper deep-throat training - 3/7/2008 5:15:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		omg    i'm really scared now.  daddy says He's going to train me in this soon.  it sounds terrifying as i have suffocation fears....but maybe everyone does

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RE: Proper deep-throat training - 3/7/2008 9:33:04 AM   
daddysprop247


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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

That has been my experience as well.  When the mouth and throat are so filled, the sinus passage is blocked at the back of my head.  No air is going in through my nose at that point, or out, for that matter.  Sometimes I'm too focused on relaxing the throat and keeping the gag reflexes in check to think about how to breathe.  So I go on faith that I'll catch a breath when I can. 


unfortunately i don't have that luxury anymore. about 3 yrs ago Daddy suddenly switched things up and made significant adjustments to the way he wished me to suck cock. one of those adjustments made things easier...he no longer cared if i gagged. however of course there was a caveat...there would be no more pulling back, however slightly or reflexively, just because i gagged. and of course i am never to try to catch a breath on my own terms...i breathe when the person using my mouth allows me to breathe. this led to my first experience deep-throating someone and actually passing out due to the lack of oxygen. not to mention puking and pissing all over myself...sexy huh? lol. the man i was with would just completely forget to let me breathe, for longer and longer periods. guess he was preoccupied.

the funny thing is my Master was present the entire time as well, but when he's deep in "perv mode" he's focused primarily on making me labor and suffer as much as possible. the guy was pressing my head against his body so tight, and his cock was so large and just iron-rod hard, i was just convinced i was going to die. then when i gagged and puked a bit and STILL he didn't let me up, not for a moment...i was really freaking out. then i hear Daddy's voice telling the guy to go right on ahead, it was okay if i lost consciousness, as long as i didn't try to pull away from his cock. and the next thing i knew i was slumped over on the ground, tasting puke, with Daddy pouring a bottle of water on my face and the other guy slapping me. i was told to breathe deep while i could, then it was right back to it.

now it's not nearly so frightening, because actually dying that way is not quite as easy as i had originally thought, and besides, if that's the way my Master wants me to go, it's a pretty sexy way you gotta admit. ;) lol

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RE: Proper deep-throat training - 3/7/2008 9:46:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		a nice popsicle can be a girls best friend, LOL.  i have them stocked in my freezer. 
i have a terrible gag reflex and i am praticing to overcome that. 
so i would say practice practice practice.

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RE: Proper deep-throat training - 3/7/2008 11:01:46 AM   
ownedgirlie


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Status: offline 		Hey there, prop.  The last time I went without air for too long, my body began to jerk and spasm on its own, in an involuntary desperate attempt at getting air.   That was cue enough for my Master to realize my airway was cut off for too long and it was time to allow me to breathe. 

Since he does not wish to be vomited on, he knows if I'm lunging back, it's to protect him from that.  The very few times I vomited, my lunge back was nearly violent, in an attempt to keep him clean.  Now he knows if I pull back hard, that is why, and he allows it.

However, this is not as traumatic as it sounds, and I don't want to put the fear of God (or, the fear of gag, ha ha) in others' minds.  It really is just a matter of training the gag reflexes.  One thing that helped me is I have a glass dildo which is slightly narrow and slightly curved and I practiced with it.  I slid it into my mouth just until my reflex was triggered and pulled it back just a tad, keeping it there as I adjusted.  I did this as a regular exercise, and over time was able to slide it farther in.  I was patient with myself while teaching myself, and would do it while watching a movie on TV, or heck - even while typing here. 

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RE: Proper deep-throat training - 3/7/2008 11:43:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		owned...the involuntary jerking and spasming can be quite scary. sometimes Daddy will pull me back and let me get air at that point, other times his sadistic side takes over and you can tell he just wants to see how far he can push it. it was quite a surprise when he revealed to me that he does not care about getting a bit of puke on him, as long as my stomach is pretty empty (mostly clear stomach juices). i've noticed he won't force me to gag and choke and vomit if i've eaten in the last few hours, lol.

and you're right in that it's not so difficult to train one's gag reflex. i was lucky in that controlling the gag reflex came very naturally and easily to me, and for the first few years i was sexually active i don't think i gagged even once. Daddy trained me in the opposite direction...he finds the sounds, look and physical sensation of gagging (when he wants it to happen anyway) to be very erotic so i had to learn how to gag. these Menfolk, just never satisfied i tell ya...



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RE: Proper deep-throat training - 3/7/2008 1:00:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

The dental stuff is merely 20% benzocaine in a gel or spray.  Just as it numbs your throat, it could have an effect on other parts that come in contact with it.  Kinda like why alot of people avoid Anal-eaze... it not only numbs the "receiver", it has an effect on the "giver."

Cali



ah, but getting the numbing agent is tough. i have had it before,  Xylocaine or something like that. i can see where that would help, along with the head back, forming a nice straight path down one's throat. it's perscription though


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RE: Proper deep-throat training - 3/7/2008 6:47:24 PM   
BBWnNC72


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Status: offline 		A couple of years ago i purchased some "Deep throat gel" from Adam and eve. It worked some but not all the way, alot better then nothing though.  It did kind of numb my throat and it didn't numb him.

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RE: Proper deep-throat training - 3/9/2008 11:17:37 AM   
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Actually deep throating does not give the "D" much pleasure at all, it is the cockhead in the mouth and the hand stroking thats really counts.

CP

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RE: Proper deep-throat training - 3/9/2008 2:14:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

sk,

Actually deep throating does not give the "D" much pleasure at all, it is the cockhead in the mouth and the hand stroking thats really counts.

CP



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RE: Proper deep-throat training - 3/9/2008 2:34:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: softness

goes all wistful remembering a long weekend

... *choke .. pull back .. *WHACK* ... cough cough .. choke pull back *WHACK* ... snort .. droool.... choke ... pull back *WHACK WHACK WHACK* .. droool ... choke .,. gag .. choke .. suck   .... suck .. gag ... suck  ... "good girl!"


knows that wont be any help to the uninitiated ..


Hm - making me wistful as too, sigh.

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