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RE: Being "outed" in the vanilla world - 9/25/2005 2:30:32 PM   
mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: RainGod

mnottertail writes:

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I will say it this way, if you can't be afforded to be out.......LEAVE NOW!!!


Uh huh. Right. I read your profile about you living on a farm. Now, if I am not mistaken, most farms are in rural communities, are they not? So if you are so "out", tell Me how the local community feels about your apparantly obvious lifestyle.

They are fine with it.
Do they mind if you wear your leather chaps with no pants ino the Co-op?

Only assholes dress like that. EVER>

Does the local church mind of you walk your slave in on a leash on Sunday morning?
Had you been less than a newbie you would know that I am a man of Thor.

How does your employer feel about it?
Cross-USA
And yes the cross means what you think it does, they are uncomfortable and I am not.



After 20 years in the lifestyle, no one but My family and My play partners know what I am into where I live.
Read a prior post about my mother. my nick tells you where I live, I do not fear you or most any other thing. Drop by we will have a hot toddie.


I would like to keep it that way. According the the very large majority of the others who post here, that is My option, and many of them understand why.
No, problem......you can afford to be outed is my point it will not kill you and I don't give the glimmer of a fuck either way, but if you are walking down the street with your slut on a leash...........well, it aint me babe.

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I am a mindfucker and if your are one of those kind, as you are giving me head I got a movie camera and I am gonna say, "If your mother could see you now." Just as I come and I will make you look in the camera.......


Indeed. How very attractive. Any submissives here think this sounds like a fun time? (At least one does)

quote:

But by god, I just don't get how my sexual proclivities could possibly interest anyone for more than a few seconds in causal conversation.


Really? you must live in a VERY ultra liberal community. Wish I did. If you really have problems understanding it, just let your sexual secrets out. People tend to be vicious and they love to exploit the secrets of others while they do the same things and maybe worse.

Well here we are, how about I tease you because you are really fucked up? No............

Well, than chill, daddio. I see you got some passion about this side but you ain't impressed me much. Nothing has said you will die.

quote:

I have lost jobs for other reason than CM type stuff. It is an inconvienience, not life threatening.


Where did I say it was life-threatening? I believe the point I conveyed was that I would rather everyone where I live not know what I do in My own home.
And then why the prior schmalz?

quote:

Look, everyfuckingbody is oppressed.


Really? I wasn't aware.

Then you are all set.

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I am not guilty cause the chinese are communists. I am very fucking irate with republican attitudes. (Doesn't make me a democrat).


I'm sorry... I somehow missed where political alliance and affiliation came into the topic.

I am not sure and am too fucking lazy to see if I posted against your name, but the original point is I am too lazy to post against the original poster and if I have caused you anquish, I certainly apologize. I will do better some day, however; If I have caused you anquish for any other reason, then I have to refer you to the statement concerning don't give a glimmer of a fuck cause I am too lazy to copy and paste it.

quote:

Most people here are reasonable, give or take a few.




Indeed, they have been reasonable.

Hope that helps.


ok, raingod I'll give you a quick shot.

Perhaps we got off on the wrong foot, if we did I apologize, if we didn't .....

well you have my answer.

Soincerely,
Ron

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RE: Being "outed" in the vanilla world - 9/25/2005 5:02:00 PM   
abondanzaisme


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ORIGINAL: RainGod

My profile on collarme doesn't have a picture. This isn't because I am ugly, or ashamed of My looks. It is more because I am afraid someone in the small town I live in might see it, and I would suffer severe problems due to My lifestyle. It could result in a loss of employment and God only knows what else.

Rain God, I am with you on this. You cannot be too careful. You never know who is looking. And if you are discovered, it could have serious repercussions in your vanilla life. I think that if certain people knew about my desires, it would color the way they see me. I would never be this spunky little chick who is the mother of two very wonderful and well adjusted kids...I would be labeled a sexual deviant and my children would lose their friends overnight...one of my biggest fears. I live in a small town and everyone knows everyone else here. I basically can't go anywhere and not run into someone I know. I don't consider this paranoid, I consider it protecting my privacy regarding what should be a very private part of one's life. That is SAFE and SANE, imho.

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RE: Being "outed" in the vanilla world - 9/25/2005 9:40:16 PM   
WayHome


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Status: offline 		Since so many here have taken it upon themselves to be "frank", I'll jump in.

Frankly, people who don't understand other people's concerns about being outed are almost always people with little to lose. They are either quite young with no idea of the significance of social mores and nothing to lose and really have no idea how the world really works, or they are fully grown but living at the edge of society. By "edge" I mean bottom.

"So what if you lose your job." Well, sure a job doesn't mean much and is replacable if you are moderately competent, but a career is something worth protecting and I doubt any of the people denigrating caution have ever really had one.

"It's incredibly unlikely you'll be recognized by someone that matters in a negative way. " Oh yeah? Some of us have faces that are recognized more widely than others. I'm not even talking about "celebrities", I'm just talking about those us us with moderately public vanilla lives. There are people locally that I know are in the lifestyle and read CM (seen their profiles) that are still people that would do harm to me by seeing my photo. Some by accident, some on purpose by outing us to others, and one or two just because then they will want to know us in that context (yuck).

"You can always deny it. Just claim identity theft." Only if the people you are surrounded by are complete idiots. Some of us try to avoid that.

"You are overestimating the risks." Really? Even when we've personally witnessed the damage that can be done to others who make such mistakes? What about family? Perhaps a mother can always accept a child, what about aunts, uncles, cousins, grandparents, in-laws? If you are from a large family and that family is important to you then there is a cost for being out. Not a total loss or life-crushing price, but a price none-the-less. A price that will be paid forever and a path that cannot be undone. They might not disown you, but some will always see you differently and less intimately. All to say nothing of clients, employers, competitors, business partners, constituents, employees, and the hundreds of other who affect each of our lives in so many subtle ways.

Many have children. Would and should your children know and understand your lifestyle? Sure. But what about all the other people in your children's lives? Would your children want their classmates or co-workers to know?

We all have choices. For some the benefits outweigh the risks and for others they do not. This equation changes depending on how much you might have to gain, but also on how much you have to lose. Each of us does the math in our heads (if we have any kind of head at all) whether or not we can actually articulate or are even conciously aware of the factors, they are there. Any outsider who thinks for a second that they know better than you how much you should fear or not is a fool and if they further seek to inflict that opinion on you then they are an asshole as well.

Leto


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RE: Being "outed" in the vanilla world - 9/25/2005 11:04:05 PM   
IronBear


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Status: offline 		You mean you guys don't lead a slave on a leash when you're shopping?????? Sheesh, I used to get jumped on by groups of radical religious folks untill they saw me leading a slave on a leash.. Now they head of in opposite directions when they see me comming, making sure they don't leave stray females of their group behind in case she ends up being collered and leashed too....

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RE: Being "outed" in the vanilla world - 9/26/2005 1:56:19 AM   
NewlyBruised


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Status: offline 		IB you rock... that's wicked...

OP - I don't have a pic for the same reason - there's parts of my life that would be damaged should anyone find out not so much about the lifestyle, but about my relationships. So, ya... and that slave... bytch!

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RE: Being "outed" in the vanilla world - 9/26/2005 3:01:05 PM   
Tempestspet


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Status: offline 		This is coming late after your post Rain God....smiles...sorry 'bout that...

But in your earlier post where you refernced my comment. I'm glad you did not take offense, and did take it they way it was intended....smiles.... I apreciate that, and have a feeling from what I have read of you so far.... I will enjoy your writings on here.

I do hope you are good....never mind the people who think it's great to be out there. Not everyone can. And that ok. I moderate, and am the gatekeeper for our local group. I protect those who cannot be out and open ferociously (spelling?). I am fortunate...lol...geez, tomorrow night I will host yet another of my Fetish Night's at a local bar. Kinda funny, being the comercials bill me as Mistress Jenn....smiles... I'm not, but the general public would not be nearly so ok or understand Fetish Night hosted by slave or sub Jenn. It's just another costume I wear...and Master gets such a kick out of it....lol...

Ok...I'm tired... hopefully I haven't befuddled anyone with my ramblings...not enough sleep since last night's show. If anyone can make the connection, I welcome feedabck and comments.... not being mean...I can bridge it to the ops statements right now...smiles...have a great afternoon!!!

Tempest's pet
jennifer

Take care Rain God!!..smiles

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RE: Being "outed" in the vanilla world - 9/26/2005 3:24:57 PM   
IronBear


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Frankly, people who don't understand other people's concerns about being outed are almost always people with little to lose. They are either quite young with no idea of the significance of social mores and nothing to lose and really have no idea how the world really works, or they are fully grown but living at the edge of society. By "edge" I mean bottom.

Leto



I'd be curious to hear your definition and qualification for the term "Edge of society". I probably have mostly lived on the "Edge" partly because of my career and partly because I don't and never have wished to socialise with most other folk. never, however confuse "Edge dwellers" with derelicts or junkies.. There are some very fine and worthy paople who prefer not to have a great deal of daily contact with the rest of the community. many also can afford to be somewhat excentric or otherwise keep themselves to themselves.

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RE: Being "outed" in the vanilla world - 9/26/2005 5:02:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

quote:

Frankly, people who don't understand other people's concerns about being outed are almost always people with little to lose. They are either quite young with no idea of the significance of social mores and nothing to lose and really have no idea how the world really works, or they are fully grown but living at the edge of society. By "edge" I mean bottom.

Leto



I'd be curious to hear your definition and qualification for the term "Edge of society". I probably have mostly lived on the "Edge" partly because of my career and partly because I don't and never have wished to socialise with most other folk. never, however confuse "Edge dwellers" with derelicts or junkies.. There are some very fine and worthy paople who prefer not to have a great deal of daily contact with the rest of the community. many also can afford to be somewhat excentric or otherwise keep themselves to themselves.


I guess I'm one of his bottom dwellers too. Of course, because I've only been a senior VP at a multinational corporation (Erdos&Morgan) and a university professor would mean to him that I didn't have much to lose.

[Just a little pissed off here. After all, I support his right to be closeted and suddenly I'm the equilivant of a drug addict.

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RE: Being "outed" in the vanilla world - 9/26/2005 8:46:29 PM   
WayHome


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Just a little pissed off here. After all, I support his right to be closeted and suddenly I'm the equilivant of a drug addict.


I'm curious. What part of what I said meant "drug addict" to you?
I'm also curious about your being a college professor while being openly lifestyle. Was it ever a problem for you?
What about as a VP?

Also, none of what I said applies to you at all since you are not:

"....people who don't understand other people's concerns about being outed ...."

If you do in fact understand other people's concerns about being outed then you are not in the group of people about which I made my generalization.

IronBear agrees about being on the edge of society by his own statements:

quote:

I probably have mostly lived on the "Edge" partly because of my career and partly because I don't and never have wished to socialise with most other folk.


But then he goes on to say:
quote:

however confuse "Edge dwellers" with derelicts or junkies.. There are some very fine and worthy paople who prefer not to have a great deal of daily contact with the rest of the community.


So I'm confused about where I said all people living at the edge of society are derelicts and junkies? Some of them are holy men. Some are nuts. Some are eccentric geniuses. Some are concientious objectors or anarchists. On the other hand the ones that are BDSM and yet completely unable to understand or respect other people's are likely not from most of those categories.


Leto

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RE: Being "outed" in the vanilla world - 9/26/2005 8:58:54 PM   
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After all, I support his right to be closeted and suddenly I'm the equilivant of a drug addict.

I think you should read his quote again, because he directed those comments toward "people who don't understand other people's concerns about being outed". Therefore, you're not included in that group. As I read it he was just describing one edge of society, and there are other edges as well. For example I am a proud member of the lunatic fringe, yet don't see any reason to feel slighted by his remarks.

edited to add:
didn't mean to be redundant. looks like his reply covered that same point but I didn't see that when I started typing

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RE: Being "outed" in the vanilla world - 9/27/2005 5:13:34 AM   
SirSix72


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Status: offline 		Well Rain d,,,that ones behaviour is something to be said for her well stature as being the person that she caims to be. But back to the subject. Ii live in a small town myself and I post my pic. More times than I can count on my fingers and toes I have run into those in this small town that are into the same things I am. If ya look at the best possibility they are closer than most that are far away and not having to worry about providing or helping with travel and living expenses. Which isnt a problem for me personally. But to find others close to myself I find exciting. But then again your not being paranoid just careful as to protect the way that you earn a living. However looks arent the only thing that gauges attraction.

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RE: Being "outed" in the vanilla world - 9/27/2005 5:36:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: WayHome
I'm curious. What part of what I said meant "drug addict" to you?


Hi, Leto. Below is a quote, from your ealier posting, and your final comment, defining the "edge of society" clears states that you "mean" the "bottom" of society. That's where I'm thinking John, and others got the idea. The "bottom" of society tends to imply the inclusion of drug addicts, as well as low lifes, and people that are struggling to pull themselves back up. I don't enjoy the implication of being clumped into the "edge" OR "bottom" of society myself. I guess others feel that way also.

K

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ORIGINAL: WayHome

Frankly, people who don't understand other people's concerns about being outed are almost always people with little to lose. They are either quite young with no idea of the significance of social mores and nothing to lose and really have no idea how the world really works, or they are fully grown but living at the edge of society. By "edge" I mean bottom.

<snip>

Leto


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RE: Being "outed" in the vanilla world - 9/27/2005 8:40:42 AM   
IronBear


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ORIGINAL: FTopinMichigan


quote:

ORIGINAL: WayHome
I'm curious. What part of what I said meant "drug addict" to you?


Hi, Leto. Below is a quote, from your ealier posting, and your final comment, defining the "edge of society" clears states that you "mean" the "bottom" of society. That's where I'm thinking John, and others got the idea. The "bottom" of society tends to imply the inclusion of drug addicts, as well as low lifes, and people that are struggling to pull themselves back up. I don't enjoy the implication of being clumped into the "edge" OR "bottom" of society myself. I guess others feel that way also.

K

quote:

ORIGINAL: WayHome

Frankly, people who don't understand other people's concerns about being outed are almost always people with little to lose. They are either quite young with no idea of the significance of social mores and nothing to lose and really have no idea how the world really works, or they are fully grown but living at the edge of society. By "edge" I mean bottom.

<snip>

Leto




Its ok it sounds like he relieved me of a bottle of White Lightening ~ Looks around and stares in horror Shit Leto dont drink that stuff.. that was a bottle of paint thinners not my home distilled whisky............Sheesh mate that stuff'l fry your brain and make you fart napalm.

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RE: Being "outed" in the vanilla world - 9/27/2005 10:17:44 AM   
honeygirl


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Status: offline 		FWIW ... I don't think such cautions are out of place in large cities as well, depending on one's job! I work for a very conservative financial services firm and would find myself out of work and scrambling to update my resume were I to post a recognizable photo on this site. I might not be fired outright at first, so they can avoid (another) ugly lawsuit, but within a few months I would definitely be gone. I've seen it in action with others who reached quite high positions and were still given the boot.

As many others have stated, if the sub didn't understand your concerns then she probably wasn't the right person for you. Frankly, since she was so incredibly rude, she is probably not the right person for anyone!

And I think pinkpleasures' warning to everyone about use of company hardware/software to access sites such as CM is right on the money -- unless you own the company, of course!

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RE: Being "outed" in the vanilla world - 9/27/2005 1:08:24 PM   
RainGod


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As many others have stated, if the sub didn't understand your concerns then she probably wasn't the right person for you. Frankly, since she was so incredibly rude, she is probably not the right person for anyone!


Hi honeygirl. Thank you for your imput. I totally agree. she may have been just out for some laughs, far better to find out sooner than later.

I did have a question about your post: Why would it matter where one lived when privacy is a question? Big city or small town, the damage is the same, I would think. Small town people like Me love thier kids, and depend upon their jobs like everyone else. Not arfguing, just wondering if you meant that the problem of persecution for kink was worse on city folks? Maybe I misunderstood.

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RE: Being "outed" in the vanilla world - 10/8/2005 8:09:27 PM   
WayHome


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ORIGINAL: FTopinMichigan


quote:

ORIGINAL: WayHome
I'm curious. What part of what I said meant "drug addict" to you?


Hi, Leto. Below is a quote, from your ealier posting, and your final comment, defining the "edge of society" clears states that you "mean" the "bottom" of society. That's where I'm thinking John, and others got the idea. The "bottom" of society tends to imply the inclusion of drug addicts, as well as low lifes, and people that are struggling to pull themselves back up. I don't enjoy the implication of being clumped into the "edge" OR "bottom" of society myself. I guess others feel that way also.

K


Heh. I can see the confusion so let me clarify. I never said everyone living on the fringe was a low-life but in my statement about people who don't understand why other people might not want to be outed I said that such people tend to be living on the fringe. I further specified that those people (the ones that don't understand) are not only on the edge, but the bottom edge more often than not.

Nothing I said was an indictment of the fringe (I'm quite fond of the fringe) or an indictment of people who are openly lifestyle in every aspect of their lives (I can respect that as well). John Warren, though he was offended by my words was never even a part of those to whom my comment was directed as he is out but clearly understands that this is not a good choice for everyone.

The only people that should take offense are those people who consistently fail to understand or respect other people's need or desire for discretion; the people who mock others for not including face shots online, the same people who go out of their way to flaunt BDSM in public in the presence of people they know are not out, and who will do things like brag to your obviously vanilla friends about the great marks you left on their ass last week the first time they meet them even after you asked politely for discretion (that last one's not a general statement but refering to a specific person if you couldn't tell). Those people are the ones of which I wrote all along. Those people annoy the piss out of me.

I hope I've been more clear now.

Leto

PS-Thanks happypervert for trying to help clarify on my behalf.

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RE: Being "outed" in the vanilla world - 10/8/2005 10:01:33 PM   
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If Y/you are using a laptop provided by work, but doing it at home, using Y/your own internet service provider, Y/you are probably still violating company policies regarding porn -- use the public library instead.


pinkpleasures


Pinkpleasures your advice was very sound and good here except for one thing the library has rules against people accessing the web for porn as well as universities. So a person wanting to access anything on the web that could be considered as offensive or outside of the norms of society would be once again suspect. However, the results would not be as serious if it were the boss at their place of employment, they would just be asked to leave or denied access to the computers. I have seen it happen.

Personally, I would not want anyone online knowing too much information about me unless I really felt I could trust them with the information. I have been stalked in real life so that is where my concern lies, you never know who you are dealing with. As stated here by other posters to this thread it is about what you feel most comfortable with.

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RE: Being "outed" in the vanilla world - 10/9/2005 12:17:52 AM   
obis


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Pinkpleasures your advice was very sound and good here except for one thing the library has rules against people accessing the web for porn as well as universities.


There's certainly nothing standard about that -- in fact I would venture to guess that the vast majority of Universities (in the USA) have no policy on what is acceptable to DOWNLOAD, so long as it is legal. I've worked at several in the past few years and unless you are an employee, the use is pretty much unrestricted -- after all, it is a university, where people are doing research and writing papers on all sorts of crazy stuff every day. There are also legal reasons for universities in the USA to allow anything legal -- depending on how much if any funding they receive from tax dollars, they may be required to have content-neutral access or run awry of the First Amendment.

Libraries tend to be more "community standards"-oriented, but even still, many if not most have a certain number of computers that are for adult use only. I don't doubt that people get kicked out of libraries for accessing "inappropriate" material, but in a reasonably sized city it is quite possible to find one or more libraries where they'll turn off all filtering and let you go crazy, as long as your screen isn't in public view and you behave yourself. The American Library Association is actually one of the groups that has fought the federal laws requiring filtering.

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RE: Being "outed" in the vanilla world - 10/9/2005 8:20:10 AM   
fyreredsub


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Status: offline 		consider yourself lucky that you found out what kind of person you were dealing with right away.

you have had your share of slave troubles the last 6 weeks. you do not need another that tops from the bottom and or has some serious issues(i wont go into my thoughts on this thread).

as to the original question,
i concur 100%
small town and bdsm in the south do not mix

not paranoid at all

i'm extremely selective who gets to know me or any of my info or my photos

i had an ex that threatened my job before...i'll be damned if some lunatic will cause me to lose what i have strived so hard to achieve in my world.

what i do in the privacy of my home or in the pursuit of happiness is no one's business but my own and the other party involved.




quote:

ORIGINAL: RainGod

My profile on collarme doesn't have a picture. This isn't because I am ugly, or ashamed of My looks. It is more because I am afraid someone in the small town I live in might see it, and I would suffer severe problems due to My lifestyle. It could result in a loss of employment and God only knows what else.

So, anyway, I was asked in an email why I didn't have a pic on My profile and I explained this to the slave who mailed Me. she replied with this, and I quote from the email:

quote:

WTF?? youre fucking paranoid! if I see the Gestapo i think I will report you! Do the world a favor and grow up!


So My question is this: Am I too paranoid? Do any of You feel the same need for discretion online? I do have pics and I do share them after we talk a little bit, but am I being overly cautious?



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RE: Being "outed" in the vanilla world - 10/9/2005 3:54:25 PM   
Sub03


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Status: offline 		i say Your not paranoid at all.....and the arguement that someone would have to be on this site to find you isnt exactly true. They can google your name or if they are on this site they more than likely arent going to admit it...........kinda thinking about taking my pic off of here because of the job I am trying to get hired for is teaching kids.....dont think anyone would be ammused if they found out.

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