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abbeysomething -> "Making" a sub/slave do something... (3/7/2008 11:49:51 AM)

Hello and thank You for reading. Just throwing this out there. In YNSHO's how do You feel about Making a sub/slave do something ( i understand pushing limits aredifferent), as opposed to her submitting her will to do Your bidding? Thanks!
Abbey



thedavezone -> RE: "Making" a sub/slave do something... (3/7/2008 11:55:24 AM)

You don't.

You find someone who WILL do what you want.



SinergyNstrumpet -> RE: "Making" a sub/slave do something... (3/7/2008 11:55:58 AM)

What do you mean by "making a sub do something"? Are you talking about forced sex play? Or something truly forced as in the sub not consenting? Are you speaking of emotional things, such as forcing a sub to quit a job or not talk to her family by threatening to end the relationship? I am just curious as to how you mean it.



Justme696 -> RE: "Making" a sub/slave do something... (3/7/2008 11:58:33 AM)

anything you do against some ones will..is illegal



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: "Making" a sub/slave do something... (3/7/2008 11:59:22 AM)

My answer is the same as Sinergy and to add if you're talking about the difference in service (reactive or proactive)?



abbeysomething -> RE: "Making" a sub/slave do something... (3/7/2008 12:16:48 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SinergyNstrumpet

What do you mean by "making a sub do something"? Are you talking about forced sex play? Or something truly forced as in the sub not consenting? Are you speaking of emotional things, such as forcing a sub to quit a job or not talk to her family by threatening to end the relationship? I am just curious as to how you mean it.

perhaps i do need to clarify :) (thank you vm)  i was in chat with a Dom, who kept saying it does not matter what  the situation was, if he owned a slave/sub/ he could Make her do Anything...  gut told me he is a bit unrealistic...... for myself, i know i tend to not react to "pushy behavior" Thanks again!


Please bare with me on the fourms, still learning my way around :)



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: "Making" a sub/slave do something... (3/7/2008 12:21:44 PM)

Well that particular dom was likely just being a blowhard to sound all strong and domly.

However, the are some Ms relationships in which it is given that the master has ultimate authority over the slave in ALL aspects of her life and has no problems using force in order for that to happen.  That doesn't mean he can make her do anything- I'm not sure how you make someone become a male on command, or learn to breathe water, or stop being on your period. 

Remember you might be new, but common sense works everywhere.



Jeffff -> RE: "Making" a sub/slave do something... (3/7/2008 12:27:58 PM)

I would also like to point out, in chat many things are possible.

Face to face, in person?, not so much

Jeff



RedMagic1 -> RE: "Making" a sub/slave do something... (3/7/2008 12:39:10 PM)

There are a lot of "authoritative" web sites that state an owned slave has no limits, and is the property of the Owner to do anything with.  Well, maybe you own the keyboard you're typing on.  If you detach your keyboard from your computer, take it outside, walk up to the first person you see, and proceed to beat the shit out of them with your keyboard -- hey, that was your RIGHT as OWNER OF THE KEYBOARD!!!!  You can do anything you want with that keyboard, no limits baby.  You also end up in the pokey, and in debt because you're paying off someone's medical bills.

There's no such thing as "no limits" except in pure fantasy.



abbeysomething -> RE: "Making" a sub/slave do something... (3/7/2008 12:46:58 PM)

Thanks so much!  Great points made, as well as taken :)
Cheers!



LordShadow -> RE: "Making" a sub/slave do something... (3/7/2008 12:52:55 PM)

Tal Men,
Greetings girls,

Slaves have no limits and their will bends to mine. I protect them, keep them from harms way as best I can, but beyond that, they serve me and my Home without concern for their own desires or self proclaimed limits.



Jeffff -> RE: "Making" a sub/slave do something... (3/7/2008 12:57:52 PM)

Yes and no. Should you decide one needed a broken arm? that might not go as well as you had hoped for..:)

Jeff



nephandi -> RE: "Making" a sub/slave do something... (3/7/2008 1:05:41 PM)

Hi

i weight over 250 pounds. i am rather strong, unless he has a weapon my Master can not physically force me to do anything, i have to submit to his orders.

Now giving a sub orders that is against what she would want to do, pushing her. i think that is up to the type of relationship the pepole in question have whit one another.

i wish you well



Leatherist -> RE: "Making" a sub/slave do something... (3/7/2008 1:07:49 PM)

You would need blanket consent to go there, and a person's reasons for wanting to be forced.

Mental illness is not a valid reason.

What actually makes it more of a game.



LordShadow -> RE: "Making" a sub/slave do something... (3/7/2008 1:28:16 PM)

As I said, I try to keep them from harms way. I have limits as to what I will inflict, if you break your toys you can't play with them and broken bones/scars tend to lower their value which makes them more difficult to sell should that time come.
But, if I wanted her arm broken, it would get broke, and she would present it to me for that purpose.




DesFIP -> RE: "Making" a sub/slave do something... (3/7/2008 1:38:28 PM)

He forgot to mention that among the many things he could make her do was walk out on him. Anyway what you describe sounds to me like doublespeak for violating hard limits, not keeping his promises. You do get that, people who think that being trustworthy and honorable only applies to the before collar stage. Not coincidentally, these people rarely are in a relationship.

He can make me do anything that I agree to. And that's the truth. If he said to fuck with being monogamous, he's hired a female escort and I 'have' to have sex with her, then I'm not going to do so. I would walk first. Because once he breaks his word he's lost all of my trust and respect and I don't submit or have sex with people I neither trust nor respect. And since I would walk anyway, why not do so before I get herpes?



OnlyMels -> RE: "Making" a sub/slave do something... (3/7/2008 1:42:34 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LordShadow

Tal Men,
Greetings girls,

Slaves have no limits and their will bends to mine. I protect them, keep them from harms way as best I can, but beyond that, they serve me and my Home without concern for their own desires or self proclaimed limits.



Ok now I don't care who you are or how much of a dom you are but this is the stupidest thing I've heard someone say so far. Every breathing human being has some limits of somekind and if you can't respect that then you don't deserve to have that persons submission even in this kind of lifestyle respect is still important especially on the subject of limits. Unless you want the person to leave and or call the cops depending on how far you push her/his limits



xxblushesxx -> RE: "Making" a sub/slave do something... (3/7/2008 1:45:15 PM)

I can see it now...

'But, Judge, I OWN her...she presented her arm to me to break because I required it...right girl?'

Girl meekly nods, 'yes sir, oh lordly one'

'erm...mr. uh...shadowlord, you DO realize that legally you can't break someone's arm, right? Even if you "own" them...'

'But judge, she is my property, I can do what I like...'

'You are property of the state, now boy...present your arms for the handcuffs, and prepare to meet bubba....'



Jeffff -> RE: "Making" a sub/slave do something... (3/7/2008 1:53:00 PM)

Ok, thats might happen. maybe even probably.

But everyone has their own way. I have met one or two women who I think would act that way.
I'ts not for me,  but it can work for others.

Jeff



LordShadow -> RE: "Making" a sub/slave do something... (3/7/2008 1:56:01 PM)

LMFAO...she is owned, she isn't going anywhere.....



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