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RE: Jury Duty - 11/12/2005 1:03:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: WickedKev

Just go in and ask if they can hurry it up as you have a slave waiting at home to be beaten. Lets see if you are excused then....

i'm gonna try the reverse of this next time and see what happens....keen idea, thank you!

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RE: Jury Duty - 11/12/2005 1:13:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: Pavel

I can't recall the exact numbers (perhaps I should have taken notes in class), but only a very small number of people get off on technicalities, I think it's somthing like 1-2% of cases end up with the accused getting off due to police misconduct or similar actions (and as my former prosecuteing attorney professor points out, many of those people get busted again for the same crime). The overwhelming majority of crimes are plead out or otherwise dealt with on the non-jury side of the law (mostly because it's not a matter of aquital vs conviction, it's more of a how bad are you going to get stuck with it).

but the ones that are can be doozies.

if you move to the domestic violence arena, the statistics go to much higher numbers, and even then, the ones that go to court often have interesting discussions about how much abuse is abuse...not so very interesting if the abusee is someone dear to you.

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RE: Jury Duty - 11/13/2005 3:07:07 PM

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Not if you assassinate now. After all the victims were. Why not the person who did the killing? Yes, I know in this country the laws will never change the way I'd change them.
Sadly we have laws for the criminals here. Not much for the law abiding citizen.
If you are a homeowner and someone robs you, you take matters into your own hands you are sent to prison for hurting the burglar.

I'd be all for getting rid of the red tape and taking it back a hundred years when if you did a crime you were punished. Of course they could even use today's technology to help them so they get the right person. No mistakes.

sub4hire

Ah....a woman after my own heart. For one thing, i have never understood why executions are carried out in secrecy if doing them is supposed to deter crime. Why not draw and quarter the bastard in a public arena and sell tickets, televise, etc.

There is only one major problem; some people on death row are innocent. When the US Supreme Court outlawed the execution of the mentally retarded, the state of Florida tested its death row inmates and more than half were found to be retarded. Since state-paid psychiatrists did the testing, it's apparent that the mentally retarded are over-represented on Florida's death row.

One of my old bosses told me this happens because a crime occurs, people are afraid, so the police drag in the local mental defective and feed him the details of the crime and get a confession. They make no real effort to find the killer; that may be impossible and such a result is intolerable to the community. Then of course, a public defender represents them. In one memorable case, the US Supreme Court ruled that a lawyer who SLEPT through most of the trial was not "incompetent counsel" and the defendant was denied a new trial.

There is another problem as well. The victim's family are not lawyers and every time an execution date is set, they go through hell, believing the killer of their loved one will die on that date. However, deaths usually occur only after an execution date has been set several times...they are on a roller coaster, for many years, without any sense to it.

So i agree with FlButtSlut; the death penalty should be repealed. i also agree with her that prision conditions have gotten out of hand and that "hard time" should mean just that; evven if it's a pointless task of breaking rocks; prisioners should work -- hard -- for their entire sentences.

People with sentences that dictate they will eventually be released should be able to get a GED for free in prision, but paying for college degrees is too much. i like that show "Parole Board" on A & E, and one prisioner had become a licensed optometrist! In prision! That offends me as a taxpayer and as a member of the community.

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