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switchfhamilton -> RE: Using Diapers in Bondage/Humiliation (11/2/2008 11:28:46 AM)
i have done this for humiliation tactics, what i did not know is my former sub was in fact a true lifestyle AB/ DL. It became an issue because he was not honest. I just discovered recently he was looking at me to be a mommy, yet did not discuss this with me. for me using it in play would have never been a big deal if the honesty and proper communication was present.

ElanSubdued -> RE: Using Diapers in Bondage/Humiliation (11/2/2008 1:54:03 PM)
There's nothing quite like a diaper thread for stirring up the shit around here. Just sayin'.

thishereboi -> RE: Using Diapers in Bondage/Humiliation (11/2/2008 1:58:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: twistedreality I think many domminants overlook the control and humiliation factor in diapers. Based on my experiences, most connect diapers to age play and therefore rule it out. On the same note, the diaper's connection to a time when you were helpless and controlled by someone else, has a deep psychological power. Also, having to go against what you have spent your life growing out of, by messing (wet or solid) has significant consequences in power play. You can have diaper humiliation without age play. They are only connected if you connect them. And it's a very powerful tool. An obvious step in this is, since your sub's main aim is to please you, is that if in a messy diaper, it would be hard for the sub not to make some subconscious associations to childhood. Knowing that infantalism is something the dom and quite likely the sub do not like, having to hide/supress these mental associations with childhood to keep the dom pleased, would make you feel very vulnerable and even disoriented. As for the changing of the diaper, ummm...I thought the dom was in control...ummm therefore, humiliate them further by making them change themselves. Or have someone else change them. How humiliating it would be to have to clean myself up or rediaper myself, as my dominant looks on and explains how this behaviour just reinforces that I need to be controlled. Check out this article: http://www.tampafetishparty.com/writings/diaper_domination.htm Think outside of the box on this issue and all others and you will find many powerful tools you did not know existed. I don't think they overlook anything. They are just not interested in that form of play. Not everyone is going to like the same things that you like. It doesn't mean they don't understand it all, it just means they are not interested in it. I can understand trying to find someone who wants to do the same things you do, but to try and convince them that they just don't get it and should seems kinda silly to me.

ElanSubdued -> RE: Using Diapers in Bondage/Humiliation (11/2/2008 2:00:43 PM)
WidowSpiders, It would be nice to know which of you is writing when. As for diapers, it's obviously not something either of you like.. It's not particularly my thing either, but each to their own I say. Elan.

ElanSubdued -> RE: Using Diapers in Bondage/Humiliation (11/2/2008 2:11:24 PM)
twistedreality, quote: twistedreality to WidowSpiders: Where is that imaginative, creative and manipulative spirit? If domination is about control or power exchange, you need to find what twists your sub's mind. As even most subs are repulsed by this type of punishment, it is therefore a wonderful punishment. Who says punishment is needed in BDSM and in BDSM relationships? I get along fine without this. Indeed, if there is a need for actual punishment, something has gone wrong that seemingly requires open, honest communication, not "twisting" someone's mind. I don't see domination as about controlling through manipulation. Rather, I find the exchange much more effective when a domme inspires and seduces my reverence, devotion and desire through her personage and leadership skills. Elan.

Lockit -> RE: Using Diapers in Bondage/Humiliation (11/2/2008 2:59:36 PM)
This is one thing I am willing and completly satisfied in 'over looking'. I have no need to use it as a tool for anything and if someone needs to go the path of some sort of infantile anything, I am not the domme for them. No one can convince me I need this 'tool' of control, manipulation or play. I find it very interesting how many wish to convince us that this is a great something. And anyone using a diaper for chastity, hasn't known many um's in diapers!

mummyman321 -> RE: Using Diapers in Bondage/Humiliation (11/2/2008 9:24:36 PM)
Skip the diaper. Use a big inflatable butt plug. Its a lot more fun to watch them squirm when they gotta go!

WidowSpiders -> RE: Using Diapers in Bondage/Humiliation (11/2/2008 10:05:37 PM)
Heh heh heh. It really seems to bother some people when they don't know which of us is speaking. Is it an identification or power issue? Do you need to know because it gives you a better target to fling your shit or giz at? (pun intended) We were born from the same cells, and damn it, through a lot of effort and communication, we have virtually the same opinion. Most posts we read together and roll our eyes at together, if it is worthy. Oh but wait! Late at night, one of us, without the other knowing, posts something the other would never have expected! Oh the horror! And how it seems to have confused and disempowered you! Heh heh heh. Whether you like to eat your own vomit or have a woman stomp on your abdomen until you shit in an adult diaper, it is a question of taste. How far would you go? Have you thought of this? One actual infant we knew would eat worms when she found them. Wouldn't that work? How about maggots? A tape worm? This seems to be a contest of how far you would go into humiliation. Most Dommes we know haven't the lack of dignity to do it. If a slave/sub needs abject humiliation to feel submissive, just how submissive was he in the first place? "If you don't make me shit on myself with a suppository... you're just not a good Domme!" How flattering. "Oh, and you can make me change my own diaper, or you can wipe my ass... either way!" Ah the sex appeal. If you like blondes, and another likes brunettes, just how much are you accomplishing if you convince everyone that blondes are better? If you convince every Domme on this site to give you the shits in an adult diaper... what have you accomplished? Are you trying to make us open our eyes to new possibilities? Or are you trying to make us enchanted with your fetishes? In the last year, we have been approached with over 22 solicitations for catration and 9 solicitations for out right snuff. We find those things repulsive too. If we give a Barbie nod to your kinks, should we not do the same for theirs? How do you feel about your pissed and shit on testicles? Seeing as we should be doing things we find repulsive, why not whack them off too? Or is that too extreme? Do you have the right to judge? Ok, here's the deal. Bring your ass over in an adult diaper. Piss on yourself, shit on yourself, pull the diaper off and eat your own shit... then pull the skin off your crapped on balls with a tweezers. Or is that too far? And who is to say... ... You?

Imakemensquirm -> RE: Using Diapers in Bondage/Humiliation (11/4/2008 2:05:27 AM)
Every time a thread involving the use of diapers comes up I notice one very glaring thing and that is a lack of tolerance in a community that should embrace differences in lifestyle. Those who don’t like it, or those who are offended by it in some way seem to feel compelled to chime in and say so. You don’t see this in most subjects that are discussed on this board and when it happens they defend there actions by trying to turn it around and say that the person asking the question is trying to convert everyone to liking diaper play. If someone asks a question about diaper play and it’s not your thing, then let it go, it’s not your thing. To also suggest that you are aren’t a true submissive if you need to be humiliated is just another example of intolerance. There are many submissives who are drawn to humiliation and that can come in many forms. They may like to be spanked, lick the boots of their Mistress or Master, or a host of many other things including being forced to wear something like a diaper, but this doesn’t take away from their need to be submissive, in fact it is a confirmation of their submissive nature. I support the use of diapers and plastic pants as a way to take total control of my submissives and at times put them in a state of total humiliation. If this isn’t your thing, that’s ok, I understand that and don’t pass judgement in any way, but I love to use diapers and while many submissives don’t at first, they quickly discover a new level on having no control and they learn to love

LadyPact -> RE: Using Diapers in Bondage/Humiliation (11/4/2008 4:55:42 AM)
So on what grounds can a dominant not speak her mind? This is but a fraction of D/s. Most of us want a fully grown sub, both physically and emotionally. There are sites that cater to this way of thinking.

Lockit -> RE: Using Diapers in Bondage/Humiliation (11/4/2008 9:47:46 AM)
Humm... so if a topic is brought up that gets a bit of ukkk... or oh goodie... and people comment on it and are of the ukkk branch, we should just go away and not speak our minds? Hummmm... wrong! lol I do not recall anyone saying that someone who was into diapers was not a real submissive. I do recall many saying they wouldn't want to play that way or use it as a tool for anything humiliating or anything else. When some said... no way... we heard... but you are overlooking the benefits. So when we say we don't care about the benefits... we get the shut up and move on or you are being judgmental. lol Okay! lol You have as much right to speak your mind as we do darlin and if you don't like it, well you might consider not taking part in a public message board, because you are going to hear it whether you want to or not. That's just the way it is.

Imakemensquirm -> RE: Using Diapers in Bondage/Humiliation (11/4/2008 1:26:36 PM)
I totally agree with the fact that we should all be able to speak our mind on any subject. My point was more to the fact that many who comment do so in a way that is seemingly passing judgement. There are some forms of play that I don't like and I don't mind saying so when asked, but I try to do it in a way that simply expresses my dislike for it and not in a way that takes anything away from those who do enjoy the form of play in question. If we all enjoyed the same things, then there wouldn't be any thing kinky for us to try, it would all be main stream.

LadyPact -> RE: Using Diapers in Bondage/Humiliation (11/4/2008 2:46:37 PM)
Exactly when did judgment become a bad thing? Each of us judges. We judge what is right for us and what is wrong for us. We judge potential play partners and life mates. We judge our skills. We judge our place in this life, kinky or not, and judge our position within it. We judge our reactions to certain forms of play, whether they are suited for us and when they are not. In fact, it would be My position that judgment is only negative when a person's own connotation to the word can not allow them to see the principle before the perception. A judgment can be either a positive or a negative thing. Not all can see it in this light, especially when it does not land in their favor. Oh, certainly, it is much easier to accept the judgment of others when they agree with you. How about when they don't? Every once in a while, the frequenters of this board happen to come across a post from an Adult Baby or Diaper Lover and respond with their general disinterest. Now, that's not completely unexpected. This happens to be a BDSM site, not an AB/DL site. When many of us express our opinion on the matter, it has been the proven track record of those who have this interest to attempt to conjugate, convert, or force to conform the regular posters here to their views on this particular life. Do we have to be particularly rude after stating that the majority of us aren't interested? Is it acceptable to say that some of us really don't care about what some feel are the potential benefits to such a lifestyle? I am not saying that AB's or DL's don't have a place here on this site. They do. However, if they expect everyone to accept their kink, they are in the wrong place. Much the same as, being a sadist, I'm not on eharmony because most people there aren't exactly going to be receptive to the fact that I want to beat them. Rather than saying I should move along when YKINMK, you will have to accept that the majority of the participants on a BDSM site, rather than one that caters to AB/DL, are not exactly going to be favorable.

VeryCurious07 -> RE: Using Diapers in Bondage/Humiliation (11/15/2008 6:52:12 PM)
I think that there are two inherrent problems with AB/DL or other ageplay fetishes that has nothing whatsoever to do with the actual fetish. One serious problem that will likely afflict this fetish for a long time is actually not a problem but what I believe to be a genetic predisposition manifesting in a profound instinctive drive toward PROTECTING children. Let's face it, we live in a society where sexual predators are a huge problem, and the Internet has more than its share of them as well. I honestly believe that if you are NOT into this particular fetish then your gut level instinctive reaction to it will be one of loathing and disgust, because unfortunately the fetish is unintentionally tied to various forms of pedophlia, at least subconsciusly. How many people in the B/D community have experienced some form of secual abuse as children, have children who were abused, or have children in their lives that were abused? It is from this vast wellpsring of societal horrors which in my estimation creates a feeling of utter disgust, making even people in the B&D community cringe. I am not sure there is an easy way around this other than for AB/DLs to see this as an unfortunate, though somewhat unavoidable reaction to their fetish. The second problem is often caused by the AB/DL's themselves who seem, in my opinion at least, to be "born again babies" out to proscelytize on these boards and convert your garden variety Domme into a Mommy. I can totally understand this too, because in the minds of many AB's, dominance can, AND SHOULD come from a place of maternal Goddess love. I believe that these AB/DL's are MISTAKING their perception of domination as some global standard, and not realizing that just because "Mommy" is their ideal of the ultimate Domme, DOES NOT mean that "Baby" is the ideal partner for most FemmeDommes.

AlexandraLynch -> RE: Using Diapers in Bondage/Humiliation (11/15/2008 7:01:22 PM)
I've raised two children past diapers, trained five dogs, and currently own three cats, one of whom is senile and craps, if I'm lucky, in the bathtub where it's easily cleaned and sanitized. I get quite enough cleaning-up-of-poo in my life, and have done enough diaper training. I find it fun enough to require my sub to ask permission to leave my presence to urinate or defecate. Sometimes I hesitate and watch the look of dismay flash into his eyes before I say "Yes, you may." I've got nothing against people who want to do that sort of play, but it is not my thing, and everyone's got their own particular bend to kink.

malloves69 -> RE: Using Diapers in Bondage/Humiliation (11/16/2008 5:25:14 AM)
just like cross dressing wearing diapers i have little interest in ...being a dad to 4 kids and yes i helped change the diapers ...that was enough diaper changing for me thank you [:)] whatever floats your boat i guess but hey pass on this too [:)] now bring out a sexy woman wearing a big strapon and boy you sure do have my interest [:)]assuming the position for my lady anytime she wants to take my ass ...mal [:)]

yourwetdream -> RE: Using Diapers in Bondage/Humiliation (11/16/2008 8:21:58 AM)
I found a submissive male that was already a bed wetter. I turned him into a 24/7 diapered boy with some bathroom control and hypnosis. I would not want to have a slave that needs diapers to poo in though, discusting. But, taking away this boy's right to pee in a toilet, that was priceless. I don't know if he has to wear diapers to this day, as I released him last May. But I know now his is looking for a Domme to serve. Jody.

maidclaudette -> RE: Using Diapers in Bondage/Humiliation (11/18/2008 12:48:01 PM)
I am a bedwetter and I would love to become 24/7....please help.

bigbABygentleman -> RE: Using Diapers in Bondage/Humiliation (12/2/2008 4:02:26 PM)
I have a simple question. If you have no interest in it, then why are you condemming those that do? If you have no interest in the fetish or scene, isn't just a little strange that your reading and commenting on something you really have no knowledge of? I wouldn't proceed into a gay bar and try to convince the occupants of the bar that heterosexual sex is better, since I have no desire to be in a gay bar for one. Why would you come into a post that you have no desire to participate in, unless you're just into slamming other people's kinks? Every person on Collar Me isn't into pain and inflicting it. Not everyone loves men or women for their sexual preferences as an opposite. Not all women or men enjoy being dominated or the domineering one. Why in the world should we really care about you're not likeing our type of kink. You have absolutely no right whatsoever telling us that you don't enjoy it, since this post was for people that DO ENJOY IT, IMHO. I never understood that from people. You'll comment on what you don't like, but really it's none of your business! You see something that you either don't like or understand and you have to tell ALL that YOU don't like it. If you don't like it, DON'T READ IT! Just my .02 cents

Lockit -> RE: Using Diapers in Bondage/Humiliation (12/2/2008 4:08:42 PM)
If I read the op correctly, our input was asked for. When you bring something public, it is a public forum and it becomes public domain in a sense. The way the questions were posed, he wanted to know if he was off in his thinking of the topic. People giving their input was expected, typical and as always, people will be for or against and have a right to speak about it in a public forum, especially when they have been asked.

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