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BlackVelvetX -> RE: Empaths and Instant Reecognition (3/12/2008 10:09:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SixFootMaster

Empathic stems from empathy, and it isn't nearly as mystical as Deep Space Nine would have you believe. Most people are empathetic to some degree - in fact, a lack of empathy is often found in coincidence with psychopathy.

You can look at it as a combination of instincts, body language, and emotional insight with perhaps a touch of metaphysical.

Can subs recognise a dom on sight? I would depend on the dom. There are certain body postures, attitudes, tones of voice and the way people approach each other that are indicative but not conclusive of dominance or submission. In my experience though, people generally drop their eyes and possibly blush because they are shy and interested. This doesn't mean they've identified you as a dominant and that they themselves are submissive, but simply that they found you cute or attractive in some way. Be careful of projecting your own thoughts onto people, and then reading them back.

Six.



Very well put.




BitchGoddessD -> RE: Empaths and Instant Reecognition (3/12/2008 10:59:37 PM)

Being an empath is nothing magical to me.  In fact it is more of a curse.  It matters not who believes what because I know myself.  I don't need a quiz; I thought it was interesting so I posted a link.  That's all folks. 




CuriousLord -> RE: Empaths and Instant Reecognition (3/12/2008 11:49:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: egelante
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ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

Please don't get caught up in this psychosis. It can be gratifying to think that you have magic powers, but it's really just a delussion that people try to justify to keep themselves happy.


This one amused me... I don't think magic has been mentioned yet...

It's true that some people are speaking in "spiritual" terms, and that others are speaking in "behavioural" ones (for want of a better word), but from my perspective these are simply two roads to the same destination. Or to ways of looking at the same object. We are what we are, and we have to understand that for ourselves: not everyone will accept a purely behavioural analysis, not everyone will accept a purely spiritual one, and so there is always going to be some disagreement in the terms used. Whichever way you look at it, some people are more acutely aware of the emotions, thoughts, and sub-lingual communication of others. Here those people are being called empaths, else-where they might be described as being able to read people better than average. Take your pick, but don't dismiss a real trait simply because the word "magic" has been applied to it somewhere. There was a time when a light-bulb was thought magical; now that the principles of electrical energy are more widely understood, it is regarded as commonplace.

To dismiss is to limit your own understanding and attempt to curtail everyone else's.


For me, the word "empaths" refers to people who can magically know and sense how others feel.

Of course, there's empathy- where you can feel for a person, and often pick up on how they feel or otherwise determine it- but we're talking about "empaths and instant recognition", aren't we?  That's magic.

You can say it limits my understanding, but I say assuming it exists limits yours.  However, the limits imposed on yours limit you to flawed thoughts which rely on the existence of superstitious things.




egelante -> RE: Empaths and Instant Reecognition (3/14/2008 8:53:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

quote:

ORIGINAL: egelante
quote:

ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

Please don't get caught up in this psychosis. It can be gratifying to think that you have magic powers, but it's really just a delussion that people try to justify to keep themselves happy.


This one amused me... I don't think magic has been mentioned yet...

It's true that some people are speaking in "spiritual" terms, and that others are speaking in "behavioural" ones (for want of a better word), but from my perspective these are simply two roads to the same destination. Or to ways of looking at the same object. We are what we are, and we have to understand that for ourselves: not everyone will accept a purely behavioural analysis, not everyone will accept a purely spiritual one, and so there is always going to be some disagreement in the terms used. Whichever way you look at it, some people are more acutely aware of the emotions, thoughts, and sub-lingual communication of others. Here those people are being called empaths, else-where they might be described as being able to read people better than average. Take your pick, but don't dismiss a real trait simply because the word "magic" has been applied to it somewhere. There was a time when a light-bulb was thought magical; now that the principles of electrical energy are more widely understood, it is regarded as commonplace.

To dismiss is to limit your own understanding and attempt to curtail everyone else's.


For me, the word "empaths" refers to people who can magically know and sense how others feel.

Of course, there's empathy- where you can feel for a person, and often pick up on how they feel or otherwise determine it- but we're talking about "empaths and instant recognition", aren't we? That's magic.

You can say it limits my understanding, but I say assuming it exists limits yours. However, the limits imposed on yours limit you to flawed thoughts which rely on the existence of superstitious things.


In response to that, I can only recommend that you read back through my posts on this topic and note that they make no mention of my believing in anything superstitious...




UncleNasty -> RE: Empaths and Instant Reecognition (3/16/2008 6:04:14 PM)

We experience empathy, or are empathetic or empathic, for others only to the degree that we are in touch with our own feelings. In order to understand someone elses sdaness we have to have experienced and been in touch with our own feelings of sadness.

I've coined a term around empathy and my own abilities to feel empathy for others. I borrowed a little from Calvin's character Spaceman Spiff. Everything in his world seemed to end in "tron." Interesting that my own electric toy, an antique piece of quackery and precursor to the modern TENS Unit, is called a MedcoTron.

In any case the tern I coined is "epathotron" and describes the device that registers the degree and amount of empathy one can feel for others. She has a fully functioning and well calibrated empathotron."

Uncle Nasty




stella41b -> RE: Empaths and Instant Reecognition (3/16/2008 10:09:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

quote:

ORIGINAL: egelante
quote:

ORIGINAL: CuriousLord

Please don't get caught up in this psychosis. It can be gratifying to think that you have magic powers, but it's really just a delussion that people try to justify to keep themselves happy.


This one amused me... I don't think magic has been mentioned yet...

It's true that some people are speaking in "spiritual" terms, and that others are speaking in "behavioural" ones (for want of a better word), but from my perspective these are simply two roads to the same destination. Or to ways of looking at the same object. We are what we are, and we have to understand that for ourselves: not everyone will accept a purely behavioural analysis, not everyone will accept a purely spiritual one, and so there is always going to be some disagreement in the terms used. Whichever way you look at it, some people are more acutely aware of the emotions, thoughts, and sub-lingual communication of others. Here those people are being called empaths, else-where they might be described as being able to read people better than average. Take your pick, but don't dismiss a real trait simply because the word "magic" has been applied to it somewhere. There was a time when a light-bulb was thought magical; now that the principles of electrical energy are more widely understood, it is regarded as commonplace.

To dismiss is to limit your own understanding and attempt to curtail everyone else's.


For me, the word "empaths" refers to people who can magically know and sense how others feel.

Of course, there's empathy- where you can feel for a person, and often pick up on how they feel or otherwise determine it- but we're talking about "empaths and instant recognition", aren't we?  That's magic.

You can say it limits my understanding, but I say assuming it exists limits yours.  However, the limits imposed on yours limit you to flawed thoughts which rely on the existence of superstitious things.


What's all this about 'magic'?

I myself fit very neatly the criteria of what is known as an 'indigo child' and so therefore I have very strong empathetic characteristics - for which I'm known to other people. I am able to 'feel' other people, I exude warmth and energy, but can be cold and aloof when I detect something within someone. I can do this online, offline, real time, wherever there's interaction with another human being.

This has got nothing to do with magic, with superstitions, with mental illness, just heightened spiritual awareness. In my case this has built up over many years through daily meditation, prayer, Buddhism, working with people such as in theatre, my relationships and friendships.

Empath isn't someone who can 'magically' feel, but someone who can 'intuitively' feel and sense what is going on around them. It's helped me a lot as a submissive, and not only I can pick up whether a woman is a Domme or not, I can also pick up on her vulnerabilities and weaknesses and gain an insight as to how and why she's dominant.

It's got nothing to do with magic, just increased spiritual awareness. These abilities can be developed by anyone. All you need is a soul and an open mind.




LadyPact -> RE: Empaths and Instant Reecognition (3/23/2008 10:04:59 PM)

Big surprise.  I scored as a certified empath.  It's not like I had to take a test to tell Me that.  I already knew.  [:D]

Anyway, anybody who really is an empath will tell you that it isn't like what the skeptics make it out to be.  It isn't mind reading or knowing the full details of where a person was on June 12, 2003.  It's much less about facts, and more about feelings.  Sometimes, a person's emotions will help you zone in on actual events, but it usually has to be something on the extreme ends of the scale.  For example, anger and fear are the easiest things to pick up on, at least in My case.




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