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RE: More demands from Islam - 3/13/2008 10:04:25 PM

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"So do you feel safe walking into some third world country, that pratices traditional Islamic beliefs, and proclaiming you are not a Muslim?"

What I`m most afraid of and is a real possibility, is un-ending war and permanent war powers for the POTUS.

And Armageddon.

I`m very afraid that the religious nuts(and neo-cons), trying to save us from religious nuts,are going to blow up the earth,starting with the middle east.

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RE: More demands from Islam - 3/13/2008 10:20:58 PM

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I got a better question.

Can you name many flicks or TV shows that portray Arabs as peaceful and law abiding?

          I didn't even notice your edit down there, O59. I don't watch a whole lot of network TV, but I can think of a few I have seen.

        There was the falsely accused White House worker on The West Wing.

         Your own mention of Three Kings would certainly fit the bill.

       There was the Iranian (?) character on 24, rounded up by the baa-aaad FBI who got himself killed wearing a wire.

         Hell, O59, I'm hard pressed to think of a Law and Order episode where the Arab was actually guilty. Usually it was a morality play about American attitudes being the real enemy.

        What's going to make Kitten's ridiculous assertion really hard to defend is that the Saudis have been paying PR firms damn good money since the early '80's to make a stink anytime an Arab is the bad guy on film.

       Then you have Theo Van Gogh.

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RE: More demands from Islam - 3/14/2008 6:07:16 AM

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The answer you gave is to a question I did not ask.

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

"So do you feel safe walking into some third world country, that pratices traditional Islamic beliefs, and proclaiming you are not a Muslim?"

What I`m most afraid of and is a real possibility, is un-ending war and permanent war powers for the POTUS.

And Armageddon.

I`m very afraid that the religious nuts(and neo-cons), trying to save us from religious nuts,are going to blow up the earth,starting with the middle east.

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RE: More demands from Islam - 3/14/2008 6:23:00 AM

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Right, huh? This thread should have been titled "More demands from Saudi Arabia". But the current fashion is to bash Islam and Muslims and to put the latter in the same bags as insane terrorists.

I agree with where you are going kSol, but would go even further and make the title, "More Demands From a Group in Saudi Arabia."

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RE: More demands from Islam - 3/14/2008 7:14:24 AM

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Check out the link http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/australia.asp
AUSTRALIA, of all countries, has the balls to remind immigrants to obey the laws of Australia, rather than the ones they bring from their "culture"...Why can't America do that?
Heck, if you look at this year's election, it's a new reality gameshow, "The Moment of Amnesty". Contestants trip all over themselves to court the Latino vote by giving illegals the biggest free ride, at the expense of Americans and LEGAL immigrants alike!

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RE: More demands from Islam - 3/14/2008 7:22:20 AM

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Why no, Kitten, I haven't noticed this. In fact, I've noticed quite the opposite in recent years. Could you cite a few, particularly those made since 9/11? United 93 is the only one I can think of, and that wasn't fiction (since I strongly doubt you've seen it).

You know, Rich, I shan't fall for your blatant provocations

. As a matter of fact, I have seen Paul Greengrass' movie, and I thought it was absolutely brilliant. I'm a cinephile, you see? If you're going to assume things about people... try to get it right, otherwise it just makes you look silly

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RE: More demands from Islam - 3/14/2008 7:26:38 AM

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So do you feel safe walking into some third world country, that pratices traditional Islamic beliefs, and proclaiming you are not a Muslim?

Having been to numerous predominantly Muslim countries, I can assure you that I never saw anybody walking around "proclaiming" their religious appartenance; and being Jewish never seemed to get in the way either. I didn't shout: "Hey people, you're Muslim, I'm not!!!". What the hell would be the point of that?

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RE: More demands from Islam - 3/14/2008 7:34:28 AM

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It is written in the Koran that a Muslim may be devious and lie when confronting non Muslims.
For those who appear to be unaware of the "threat" of the attempted Islamification of the West I offer the challenge of finding the verse in the "book".

Deuteronomy 7:1-2

When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations . . . then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.

any one can make anything look like what they wish it too

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RE: More demands from Islam - 3/14/2008 7:35:43 AM

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Have you noticed the plethora of Hollywood movies with nasty evil Arab terrorists, all geared up with turbans and moustaches? They've taken over from the Russians as the stereotypical baddies. And people slowly fall for it; the power of propaganda...

Why no, Kitten, I haven't noticed this. In fact, I've noticed quite the opposite in recent years. Could you cite a few, particularly those made since 9/11? United 93 is the only one I can think of, and that wasn't fiction (since I strongly doubt you've seen it).

Thats the problem rich; no one has seen it.

Oh you meant the movie?

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RE: More demands from Islam - 3/14/2008 7:38:36 AM

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Deuteronomy 7:1-2

When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations . . . then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.

any one can make anything look like what they wish it too

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Islam planted that!

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RE: More demands from Islam - 3/14/2008 7:45:30 AM

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

So do you feel safe walking into some third world country, that pratices traditional Islamic beliefs, and proclaiming you are not a Muslim?

OTW:
If you wear body armor and carry a .45 you tend to feel safe most anyplace.
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RE: More demands from Islam - 3/14/2008 7:51:06 AM

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there is no such thing as a "peaceful" muslim in my opinion.

Have you read the Book of Joshua lately? Every one of the three major Abrahamic faiths - Judaism, Christianity, and Islam - is a front for warmongering nutjobs.

The conquest of the "promised land" is a blueprint for genocide and is the first such myth in human history.

Religions are dangerous!

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RE: More demands from Islam - 3/14/2008 8:18:37 AM

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So do you feel safe walking into some third world country, that pratices traditional Islamic beliefs, and proclaiming you are not a Muslim?

Hmm, "some third world country", eh? No names, we get what you mean, they're all the same, right?

OK, the constitution of Iran protects the right of worship of its native Zoroastrian community. Will that do?

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RE: More demands from Islam - 3/14/2008 8:43:50 AM

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff
Deuteronomy 7:1-2

When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations . . . then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.
any one can make anything look like what they wish it too
Jeff

Islam planted that!

No Mohammed probably "nicked it"
If Sugar had said "Religions can be dangerous." Then I agree.
By the way isnt the quote "straight out of" Judaism ?

Also when militant Muslims do create some more havoc I for one will rest content knowing full well that the justification for "havoc making" is also present in the Bible.

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RE: More demands from Islam - 3/14/2008 9:20:04 AM

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Your version:

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there is no such thing as a "peaceful" muslim in my opinion. There may be muslims who are friendly, but that is different than peaceful. If you move to another nation, you try to assimilate, not isolate yourself and hold the citizens of the country in disdain for their "decadent western behaviour". That's hostility just under the surface.

My version:
there is no such thing as a "peaceful" human in my opinion. There may be humans who are friendly, but that is different than peaceful. If you move to another nation, you try to assimilate, not isolate yourself and hold the citizens of the country in disdain for their "decadent western behaviour". That's hostility just under the surface.

People are assholes. Go figure.

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RE: More demands from Islam - 3/14/2008 9:21:43 AM

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So do you feel safe walking into some third world country, that pratices traditional Islamic beliefs, and proclaiming you are not a Muslim?

OTW:
If you wear body armor and carry a .45 you tend to feel safe most anyplace.
thompson

You also tend to wind up dead. What's your point?

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RE: More demands from Islam - 3/14/2008 9:45:34 AM

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Next they're going to demand naked pictures of Bea Arthur and a football helmet full of cottage cheese. Just you wait!

(+10 points to anyone who gets the reference)

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RE: More demands from Islam - 3/14/2008 10:00:51 AM

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I don't get the link but with the aid of Google I can tell it has something to do with porn.

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RE: More demands from Islam - 3/14/2008 11:51:47 AM

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Check out the link http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/australia.asp
AUSTRALIA, of all countries, has the balls to remind immigrants to obey the laws of Australia, rather than the ones they bring from their "culture"...Why can't America do that?
Heck, if you look at this year's election, it's a new reality gameshow, "The Moment of Amnesty". Contestants trip all over themselves to court the Latino vote by giving illegals the biggest free ride, at the expense of Americans and LEGAL immigrants alike!

What free ride are you speaking of?
Would you quantify it for us?
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RE: More demands from Islam - 3/14/2008 11:56:05 AM

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So do you feel safe walking into some third world country, that pratices traditional Islamic beliefs, and proclaiming you are not a Muslim?

OTW:
If you wear body armor and carry a .45 you tend to feel safe most anyplace.
thompson

You also tend to wind up dead. What's your point?

My point was that you ought not to go to an asskicking contest barefoot.
thompson

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