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How long between Sir and Master - 3/13/2008 1:14:29 PM   
CelticPrince


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Status: offline 		It continues unabated! as I read the forum threads I continue to see questions/comments about their masters.

When I check the profile on some interesting threads, I find in way too many cases someone that joined CM 2 or 3 months ago and were new to the lifestyle, yet already they have a "master"

The question is this; how long does a D/s relationship go on for you before you allow your sub to call you Master.

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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/13/2008 1:48:12 PM   
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A Master should only be called such after accepting the submission of a submissive. Turning both of them from Dom/sub  to Master/slave

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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/13/2008 2:17:58 PM   
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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/13/2008 2:35:55 PM   
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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/13/2008 2:40:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		I see Master as refering to the Master slave dynamic so for me its not really an issue, I call Sir, um Sir and that happened the day that he accepted me as his sub, doesnt really matter how long I knew him or whatever it certainly wasnt entered lightly on my part, as I mentioned on another thread I find it really hard to call people Sir without giggling.

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For me Sir is quite a powerful word, and I certainly cant call everyone it, for me calling someone Sir is equatable with calling someone Master


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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/13/2008 2:44:17 PM   
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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/13/2008 2:46:50 PM   
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2 weeks or 2 blowjobs whichever happens first.




Damn, ok guess that means He was my Master 3 hours into our first night together hehe

Sorry I just couldn't resist hehe

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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/13/2008 3:53:55 PM   
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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/13/2008 4:00:12 PM   
Sweet1Maybe4U


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LUMUS
"I make a lass wait until I've chosen to own her before granting the privilege.  Mind you, I've been called the term by confused Gorean females who see I'm a Dominant male when they don't even know who I am... "

From my POV, I understand what you are saying but from my past experience with Gorean ways it is a sign of respect and is expected for girls to call Men "Master". All men are "Master". It has nothing really to do with knowing You personally. And it doesnt make you their Master. It is a respect given. Just as a Dominant female would be called Mistress out of respect.





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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/13/2008 4:34:55 PM   
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What you tell her to call you..that decides the moment in soem cases.
In others it starts when you own her...


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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/13/2008 4:36:32 PM   
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A Master should only be called such after accepting the submission of a submissive. Turning both of them from Dom/sub  to Master/slave


Kinkypuppy,

I'm his sub but he's not my Master.   I wasn't seeking a Master.  He wasn't seeking a slave.  A Dominant's acceptance of a submissive does not make the Dominant an automatic Master.  A submissive who gives submission is still a submissive, not an automatic slave. 

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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/13/2008 5:08:19 PM   
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It continues unabated!


TM,
The reason the debate goes on is that the definition of Master is dependant on the opinion of the person using the word. 

quote:

The question is this; how long does a D/s relationship go on for you before you allow your sub to call you Master. 


It is not for me to say what someone is permitted to call another, or how long they need to be together for certain titles to be used.  It's none of my business.  If the Dominant wants to be called Lord High King Master and Clown starting at Day #1, then the submissive may call him that. 

I generally think of those who have exceptional skills as being Masters.  I saw a man who could probably knock a fly off a submissive's shoulder without touching her with his whip.  To me his is a Master of the Whip.  I've see some gorgeous and intricate suspension bondage and i consider those people as Masters of Suspension. 

It would be so much easier if there was an official committee somewhere that would bestow the title of Master on deserving Dominants.  Then there would be no controversy.  There is no committee and so there are many Masters, deserving and not. 

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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/13/2008 6:02:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		No admittadly I know bugger all about submissi ves and they remain a mystery to me. But, slaves are something I do know somthing about. I meet a male or female identifying as a slave (this applies to subs too btw), as long as they are well mannered and polite (I have little time for rude people and absolutely no time for those wiith an "in your face" agressive attirude), I really have few objections how they address me as long as it is not a high protocol function. Sir is fine by me as is Colonel, and Master. Once I accept submission from a slave and the collar is locked about their neck (including the probationary collar we use) then it will be Master or Sir. End of story and discussion from my view point.

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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/13/2008 6:27:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kinkypuppy2

Dom = is a Domanant person.
A Master should only be called such after accepting the submission of a submissive. Turning both of them from Dom/sub  to Master/slave


I don't think it's that simple, pup. The submissive I'm courting will never be my "slave." I don't want a "slave" per se (at least, not as I understand the term). And I'm certain;y not a "Master" of anything yet. I believe it has far more to do with the amount of demonstrated skill and knowledge of the lifestyle.
 
Hell, there's probably even a Masters for Dummies guide that would help me pass the "Master" test. Haven't found it on Amazon.com, tho, so I guess I'll just be content to be a Dominant!
 
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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/13/2008 6:48:45 PM   
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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/13/2008 7:05:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

The question is this; how long does a D/s relationship go on for you before you allow your sub to call you Master.

CP


Sometimes....never.  He's gotta earn it, and some just don't get to that point.  On the other hand, there are those that command it (not demand it) from the get-go.  It all depends on the two people involved.

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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/13/2008 7:08:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CelticPrince

It continues unabated! as I read the forum threads I continue to see questions/comments about their masters.

When I check the profile on some interesting threads, I find in way too many cases someone that joined CM 2 or 3 months ago and were new to the lifestyle, yet already they have a "master"

The question is this; how long does a D/s relationship go on for you before you allow your sub to call you Master.

CP


My personal preference has always been "Sir". My slave, however, expressed to me that "Master" is the term in her heart. Now she calls me Master or Sir as the moment moves her.

How long? Whenever it fits the relationship, be it a day, a month, or a year.

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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/13/2008 7:20:18 PM   
CelticPrince


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Dom = is a Domanant person.
A Master should only be called such after accepting the submission of a submissive. Turning both of them from Dom/sub to Master/slave


puppy,

I really disagree with that premise. What your saying that whenever there is a collar the dominant becomes a Master!

Damn, no wonder there are so many Masters here.

A Dominant can collar a submissive without taking it to the next step of Master.

CP

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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/13/2008 7:24:13 PM   
CelticPrince


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I see Master as refering to the Master slave dynamic so for me its not really an issue, I call Sir, um Sir and that happened the day that he accepted me as his sub, doesnt really matter how long I knew him or whatever it certainly wasnt entered lightly on my part, as I mentioned on another thread I find it really hard to call people Sir without giggling.

Edited to add
For me Sir is quite a powerful word, and I certainly cant call everyone it, for me calling someone Sir is equatable with calling someone Master


coloure, well setting aside your difficulty, what do you feel is an appropriate time frame tween sir and Master?

CP

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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/13/2008 7:25:40 PM   
CelticPrince


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Never! I'll never say it and you can't make me!!!
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errrrrrr which Sir or Master?

CP

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