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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/14/2008 2:34:44 PM   
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He collared me after a month. We're going on five years, so I guess him breaking all the rules didn't matter. Luckily for me, the only rules he cares about is his.

If you collar the first day and you wind up together for 20 years, then it was the right thing to do.
If you collar after 3 years and break up a week later, then it was the wrong thing to do.

You can only decide what's wrong or right here by looking at how long that specific relationship lasts.

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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/14/2008 3:05:10 PM   
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A Dominant can collar a submissive without taking it to the next step of Master.

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So what you're saying is that dominants are inferior to masters and submissives are much inferior to slaves. Better watch that "My Kink is Better Than Your Kink" attitude. It's very unattractive.

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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/14/2008 3:56:59 PM   
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akisha and blushes do you two have sisters like you. I could use 4 blow jobs.  


I have 7 sisters, but only one that is close to being like me lol



You only have 1 sister who likes to suck cock???  I assume the rest are gay. Maybe it's the water...

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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/14/2008 3:58:08 PM   
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I guess I didn't clarify this enough but I mean't logic aswell as emotion when I said when it feels right for the both of you I was implying that the sub and Dom have known each other for sometime and that it fealt at the right time. Does that makes sense?

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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/14/2008 6:26:38 PM   
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I guess I didn't clarify this enough but I mean't logic aswell as emotion when I said when it feels right for the both of you I was implying that the sub and Dom have known each other for sometime and that it fealt at the right time. Does that makes sense?


lilpookies, with that qualification, of course. thanks for the clarity.

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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/14/2008 6:28:27 PM   
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If you collar the first day and you wind up together for 20 years, then it was the right thing to do.


Des,

Well honestly, I would call that extreme luck.

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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/14/2008 6:40:46 PM   
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quote:

So what you're saying is that dominants are inferior to masters and submissives are much inferior to slaves. Better watch that "My Kink is Better Than Your Kink" attitude. It's very unattractive.


Dear Wordtwister,

Not too many comments directed to me cause me ire, congratulations!

Where in my past comments can the words inferior come, even by inference. There is not much in your profile that could guide me to why you would take such a position, I do note however that since joining this site 3 plus months ago, you managed to rack up over 1500 posts!!!!!!!!!!

Perhaps you on forum overload, but I now doubt that you have the experience to soundly qualify yourself to make such reaching interpretations.

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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/15/2008 5:21:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SailingBum

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ORIGINAL: akisha

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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

akisha and blushes do you two have sisters like you. I could use 4 blow jobs.  


I have 7 sisters, but only one that is close to being like me lol



You only have 1 sister who likes to suck cock???  I assume the rest are gay. Maybe it's the water...

BadOne


LOL no i have one sister that is adventurous per se.   Then again I haven't really asked all the older ones if they are kinky or not

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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/15/2008 6:30:21 PM   
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Where in my past comments can the words inferior come, even by inference.


You said that going from dom to master is "the next step". That  implies strongly that being 'just' a dom or 'just' a sub is less than being a master or a slave. You might be surprised at how many of us just doms and subs don't feel less at all. Nor do we feel that we aren't as valid in our relationships as you may be in yours, assuming you have one.

This isn't some staircase where you true masters are at the top looking down at those of us poor benighted souls stuck forever at halfway.

I'm never going to be a slave for moral reasons that are good enough for me, and for him. And no I don't think him collaring me after a month is just blind luck. It means we knew what we both needed and went looking for it. And that's nearly five years ago.

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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/15/2008 6:33:02 PM   
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I think it is all down to the individuals

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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/16/2008 10:34:55 AM   
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I think it is all down to the individuals


I definatly agree, some will jump in after a day or two other's longer. It's going to be what ever works for the people involved, some may never progress to that point either depending on how the dynamics of their relationship go. I see a collar-which for me will change the title of submissive to slave as something not to be taken lightly, it's a commitment for both of us. Pretty much a minimum of six months, I mean would you get engaged to someone you have only known for a week?


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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/16/2008 10:53:19 AM   
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You said that going from dom to master is "the next step". That implies strongly that being 'just' a dom or 'just' a sub is less than being a master or a


Des,

I assume that you have heard the word progression.
Can a freshman be as informed as a senior?

think about it!


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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/16/2008 1:12:38 PM   
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The words mean nothing. The person behind them is a lot more important. If she calls me sir, master, my name, or you fucking bastard doesn't matter to me. (Actually, you fucking bastard at the right time is music to my ears.) The name she needs to use is the one that has the best effect on her. If sir makes you wet, it's the right one to use.





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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/16/2008 2:27:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

quote:

ORIGINAL: CelticPrince
Where in my past comments can the words inferior come, even by inference.


You said that going from dom to master is "the next step". That  implies strongly that being 'just' a dom or 'just' a sub is less than being a master or a slave. You might be surprised at how many of us just doms and subs don't feel less at all. Nor do we feel that we aren't as valid in our relationships as you may be in yours, assuming you have one.

This isn't some staircase where you true masters are at the top looking down at those of us poor benighted souls stuck forever at halfway.

I'm never going to be a slave for moral reasons that are good enough for me, and for him. And no I don't think him collaring me after a month is just blind luck. It means we knew what we both needed and went looking for it. And that's nearly five years ago.


I am sorry.... but this I can not agree with.  I see it simply as this..... When I was born I had to learn how to crawl, then walk... and finally run.  It is similar here, yes I consider Myself Dominant, but I also know that I am far away from being a Master yet.  It is My goal and it must be earned.

Also, I have never had any Master or Mistress look down at Me because I was new to the lifestyle, rather they are always willing to teach Me that which I do not know yet.  Guidance from them makes My transition all the more important to Me for I look up to them not as better then Me but as equals who know more and have what I want to learn.  I have also had Masters come to Me and say thank You for teaching Me that.   This is the true sign of a Master/Mistress... always teachable.

So for now I am very happy with Sir or MisterP...Even MP.   As long as I strive for betterment, one day I will achieve the Title of Master.

MP


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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/16/2008 7:50:55 PM   
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<snip>

, I mean would you get engaged to someone you have only known for a week?


Wolf's denika


Some people have gotten married after meeting with in 3 days and lasted forever. Some people spend 2 years getting to know someone before getting married and still managed to end up divorced in less then 3 years.

Time is not always the deciding factor. Trusting your instincts is.

< Message edited by akisha -- 3/16/2008 7:51:56 PM >


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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/16/2008 9:42:16 PM   
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Some people have gotten married after meeting with in 3 days and lasted forever. Some people spend 2 years getting to know someone before getting married and still managed to end up divorced in less then 3 years.

Time is not always the deciding factor. Trusting your instincts is.


I have to agree there, I think I'm just one of those over-cautious people, Rob and I lived together for 9 years before we got married and I knew Wolf for over 7 months before I ever stuck my toe in the water to bottom to him. Trepidation should be my middle name 

You are also right, no matter how long you are together the end can sneak up at any time too, not a pleasant thought, but it happens

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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/17/2008 5:53:14 AM   
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f she calls me sir, master, my name, or you fucking bastard doesn't matter to me. (Actually, you fucking bastard at the right time is music to my ears.) The name she needs to use is the one that has the best effect on her. If sir makes you wet, it's the right one to use.


quinny,

The diffinitions are not the core of this thread, it addresses the time frame between the depths of the relationship; be it on a sub level or a slave level.

CP

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RE: How long between Sir and Master - 3/17/2008 5:55:55 AM   
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think it is all down to the individuals


Tainted,

Of course you point has some validity, but there are norms for everything in life; even D/s.

CP

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