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RE: America Created by God to Destroy Islam - 3/14/2008 7:12:48 AM   
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I think it's time the USA had a little revolution  .


You know ... I adore being an American.  I'm truly proud of it, mainly because of all the wonderful people I know who are Americans, who live here, raise their families in peace, succeed and struggle alike.  It's the federal and state and local political bullshit that makes me want to crawl under a rock sometimes.  Perhaps a revolution isn't such a bad idea...

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RE: America Created by God to Destroy Islam - 3/14/2008 7:20:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

I think it's time the USA had a little revolution  .


Am I the only one that found this statement together with the picture of the cute little girl with the great big gun........just delightful?


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RE: America Created by God to Destroy Islam - 3/14/2008 7:30:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

I think it's time the USA had a little revolution  .


Am I the only one that found this statement together with the picture of the cute little girl with the great big gun........just delightful?





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RE: America Created by God to Destroy Islam - 3/14/2008 7:34:21 AM   
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       Ready for the really disgusting part?  If John McCain becomes the next President of the United States, the blame will rest squarely with the incompetence of the Democrat Party.


*Nods*

Yes, the politicians , of both parties , all suck and can't be trusted.

Up against the wall, motherfuckers.

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RE: America Created by God to Destroy Islam - 3/14/2008 10:21:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think Washington, Jefferson, and many others of our original founding fathers would gladly shot that fool for such a statement.

I guess he forgot that if this country was created by God then there would be no Seperation of Church and State as happens to be in the First Amendent of our Constitution.

Germany is a Christian Nation, it's in their Constitution, but religion is no big deal to them, it's part of the state and has lost meaning. The US has the most religous population of the western world, inspite of, or because of, the First Amendment.

McCain, you're a fool.

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RE: America Created by God to Destroy Islam - 3/14/2008 10:24:13 AM   
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Paraphrase and I cannot remember the source: Those who seek political power are the ones who should most be denied it. Those who would best fill the jobs have no desire for it. So, it seems, we'll always be dealing with those who should not wield such power.

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RE: America Created by God to Destroy Islam - 3/14/2008 11:04:43 AM   
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DEATH to RELIGIONS!

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RE: America Created by God to Destroy Islam - 3/14/2008 11:56:54 AM   
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Let's get rid of all religions...all they do is breed intolerance and death for non-believers.


DEATH to RELIGIONS!



That is your belief then?  Sounds pretty ugly to me.

Atheism hasn't been punishable by death for a couple hundred years, not in the free world anyway.  In muslim countries, it's definitely safer to stay in the closet.  Atheism is technically illegal in several states, and discrimination is law-based.  More on that:

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There is a widespread opinion that a person needs to believe in some higher power and an afterlife -- either hope for an eternal reward in Heaven or fear of an eternal torture in Hell -- in order to behave morally and  honorably. These beliefs may be the cause of a widespread public opinion that Atheists must behave immorally, are poor citizens, and/or are personally rebelling against God.

Atheists are widely despised across the U.S. There is a general consensus that no Atheist could ever be elected to any important political post in the country.

The belief that Atheists should be discriminated against has been embedded in American law for centuries:

Public office:  Eight states (AR, MA, MD, NC, PA, SC, TN, and TX) have exclusionary language included in their Bill of Rights, Declaration of Rights, official oath of office, or in the body of their constitutions. Most of them specifically exclude all Atheists and Agnostics from holding public office. These phrases are historical relics, left over from earlier times. The First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution supersedes these statutory laws and sections of state constitutions. It thus nullifies the effect of the above clauses. Still, it would be almost impossible to get citizens of any of these states to amend their constitution to end the religious discrimination.



http://www.religioustolerance.org/atheist7.htm

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RE: America Created by God to Destroy Islam - 3/14/2008 12:05:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Atheism is just not seeing any more reason to believe in an imagined nut than Micky Mouse. It really is no big deal. Children believe in Santa Claus until they are told by their parents or friends that Santa Claus is a fantasy. People believe in god because their parents or friends never told them god was a fantasy. The problem is that if someone isn't told something is a fantasy before they are thirteen, they go on believing for life. Sad really.

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RE: America Created by God to Destroy Islam - 3/14/2008 1:31:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hmm this is an interesting thread...

I notice that the everyone in this thread is up in arms about some random guy who is pro-McCain saying "get rid of Islam" essentially.. but when Obama's pastor says America is at fault for 9-11, Blacks should sing "God Damn America instead of God Bless America", that the Govt invented AIDS to kill black people... no one blinks.

I don't know about you all, but to me, a mans pastor saying such things...especially since Obama has been in his congregation for 20 yrs, he Married Obama and his wife and baptized his children... is raise more flags than some nut job who wants McCain to win.


Is this just more hypocracy from the lefts mantra machine?

At least now we know why Obama refuses to respect the American flag.


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RE: America Created by God to Destroy Islam - 3/14/2008 2:11:23 PM   
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. but when Obama's pastor says America is at fault for 9-11, Blacks should sing "God Damn America instead of God Bless America", that the Govt invented AIDS to kill black people... no one blinks.



Wait a minute... are you saying they didn't?!

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RE: America Created by God to Destroy Islam - 3/14/2008 2:33:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MrMojo90732

Hmm this is an interesting thread...

I notice that the everyone in this thread is up in arms about some random guy who is pro-McCain saying "get rid of Islam" essentially

Way to try and twist the nconvenient facts.

McCain sought Parsley's endorsement. This was a calculated attempt to get a prominent fundamentalist leader to endorse him right before the Ohio primary simply to force Huckabee out of the race. By that point McCain had no realistic chance of not winning the nomination so the question is why did he do it? Why get in bed with this guy and John Hagee?

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RE: America Created by God to Destroy Islam - 3/14/2008 3:39:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

Atheism is just not seeing any more reason to believe in an imagined nut than Micky Mouse. It really is no big deal. Children believe in Santa Claus until they are told by their parents or friends that Santa Claus is a fantasy. People believe in god because their parents or friends never told them god was a fantasy. The problem is that if someone isn't told something is a fantasy before they are thirteen, they go on believing for life. Sad really.


Maybe it shouldn't be a big deal, but it is.  It is sad too.

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RE: America Created by God to Destroy Islam - 3/14/2008 3:43:23 PM   
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Let's get rid of all religions...all they do is breed intolerance and death for non-believers.


DEATH to RELIGIONS!



That is your belief then?  Sounds pretty ugly to me.




Jeeze, you forget your smiley and the world falls apart  


But yeah, overall intolerance is created and spread by religious organizations who believe they "have the answer" and everyone else is wrong.  Or religious  (or quasi-religious) organizations are used to promote a specific "view of the world" according to some power that definitely isn't a deity. 






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RE: America Created by God to Destroy Islam - 3/14/2008 3:53:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Actually it seems to be something with the Abrahamic religions that want to convert by the sword. Unless you consider a stimulating debate by a Taoist dangerous.


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ORIGINAL: Crush

Let's get rid of all religions...all they do is breed intolerance and death for non-believers.


DEATH to RELIGIONS!



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RE: America Created by God to Destroy Islam - 3/14/2008 4:03:04 PM   
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Jeeze, you forget your smiley and the world falls apart  

But yeah, overall intolerance is created and spread by religious organizations who believe they "have the answer" and everyone else is wrong.  Or religious  (or quasi-religious) organizations are used to promote a specific "view of the world" according to some power that definitely isn't a deity. 


Eep!  My mistake.  I thought you were attempting to paraphrase my views as hateful.  I'm trying not to be sensitive to that sort of thing and finding it difficult.  My apologies. 






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RE: America Created by God to Destroy Islam - 3/14/2008 4:15:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		When political parties begin to claim that they are the agent of God, it is time to dismantle that party, burn it to the ground, and salt the Earth where it once stood. Nothing good will come of this.

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RE: America Created by God to Destroy Islam - 3/14/2008 4:45:01 PM   
slavebianca


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Status: offline 		We had a great candidate and his name was Ron Paul. Signs in yards across the whole country and raising record amounts of money. Does no one find it strange that McCain
is taking the same stance on issues that bush is and bushs approval is in the high teens yet
Mcpain is winning in landslides....but is almost broke. So I guess it also makes sense that so many millions funded Ron Paul and put his signs everywhere but didn't want to vote for him?
Oh yeah I almost forgot...The voting in America is completely rigged. One only needs to look as far as google or youtube to know this yet nobody in our government or news wants to change a thing...hmmm


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RE: America Created by God to Destroy Islam - 3/15/2008 4:02:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bound2One

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Can we scrub the slate clean and start this election year over with new candidates?


That's the best idea I've heard all week!

Honestly - the Dems are self-imploding again.  What is UP with the re-do of elections?  Why can't they get their act together and put forth a candidate who isn't polarizing (Hillary) or who has maybe, I dunno, the background and experience, to be president (Obama)??  WTF?  I'm a Republican and was looking for a Dem to put in b/c I'm tired of the last 8 years also.  I just don't see my vote going that way, though.  I didn't follow the Dem primaries b/c I'm registered Rep - but there were several candidates there that I would have voted for over these two - Biden, for example. 

And that leaves us with McCain, who I've liked, but I want a change!  And then I read things like this about him and I just get more nervous ... sigh.




Im with you on this one my dear!

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