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RE: Riddle me this, Batman. - 3/18/2008 6:28:56 AM   
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Twas I who mentioned that.


Yes, I remember.

Perhaps we can agree, the English langue is often used as an form of art?
 
If so, I have this for you to look at. It is the picture of Mary and baby Jesus in the tree I would like you to examine.
 
If you would, tell me if you see anything interesting about it. I do not know if others have pointed out what I see before, but if they have, I have not read about it. I don’t even think I read the whole article. I got caught up on the picture.

My thought is; people have been trying to tell us things for a very long time by leaving clues; we’re just too busy caught up in the rat race, to notice them.

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These are mostly quirks in the language I think. The concepts of live and evil came before the English language, so to say this is intentional I think is not a reasonable assumption.


I do not see how this fact would disprove my thought.

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In fact these plays on words can make for a really good topic.


I thought so.

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The English language, because of it's simplicity, lends itself to these quirks. I have met people from all over the world, both online and in person and they all say that English is one of the easiest languages to learn.

Strange, I’ve only heard it was the hardest because it is it often doesn’t even follow its own rules.

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It's the nuances and the contexts that befuddle people.


Actually, I am of the mind there are some straight out contradictions.
 
Like the word “freedom”. Said alone, it means lack of responsibility, add another word with it, ie. “speech” or “choice”; suddenly, we are talking about a whole new animal.
 
This is why I try to stick with liberty, hard to twist that one.

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There are proper words that have more than one meaning, and even in our grammar there can be two properly formed sentences exactly the same, but have two completely different meanings.


True that.
 
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RE: Riddle me this, Batman. - 3/18/2008 6:35:08 AM   
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I thought fuck was an abbreviation of “fornication under consent of the king” was I misinformed?
 
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RE: Riddle me this, Batman. - 3/18/2008 6:38:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		The etymology of "fuck" is still unclear; but it's unlikely to be an acronym. Fun, though.

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RE: Riddle me this, Batman. - 3/18/2008 6:43:13 AM   
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The etymology of "fuck" is still unclear; but it's unlikely to be an acronym. Fun, though.


Hmmmm.... interesting. I wonder where that idea came from then. I've heard it from more then one source, admittedly, all from around here.
 
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RE: Riddle me this, Batman. - 3/18/2008 7:22:10 AM   
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I appreciate your participation; very informative and interesting, as usual.
 
Thank you.
 
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RE: Riddle me this, Batman. - 3/18/2008 8:17:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: charmdpetKeira

~fr~

I thought fuck was an abbreviation of “fornication under consent of the king” was I misinformed?
 
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I'd say that was fairly unlikely; in German it's "ficken" and if the same word is found in both languages, then unless its an import to both from another language, its likely a very old word from the common source of the languages. Same with mother/Mutter, father/Vater, house/Haus and so on, and less clear with examples such as beam (as in Hornbeam)/ Baum.

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RE: Riddle me this, Batman. - 3/18/2008 8:37:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Apparently, the acronym was made up in the 1960’s, if the source is accurate, or at least not recorded as being heard of before that.

Interesting…

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RE: Riddle me this, Batman. - 3/18/2008 8:44:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: charmdpetKeira

~fr~

I thought fuck was an abbreviation of “fornication under consent of the king” was I misinformed?
 
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"Sources such as the Oxford English Dictionary contend that the true etymology of fuck is still uncertain but appears to point to an Anglo-Saxon origin."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuck

...i am constantly amazed what subjects get their own wiki page.......

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RE: Riddle me this, Batman. - 3/18/2008 9:02:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		English is -morphing into a bunch of grunt and moans.  The pace of change  is faster today  then 100 years ago. Different areas have different  slang.   One   interesting  note..."Ill call you" in many areas,  conversations has come to mean, "next time we speak on the phone".

visit our website means-  you are too stupid to navigate the phone menu, so we rigged the website as well.
of course noone will say to these folks..."im too stupid to work the website/phone menu"



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RE: Riddle me this, Batman. - 3/18/2008 9:07:17 AM   
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English is -morphing into a bunch of grunt and moans.  The pace of change  is faster today  then 100 years ago.


....i'm not so sure that the pace of change in language is much faster nowadays. A language has to change, to evolve, or it dies.

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RE: Riddle me this, Batman. - 3/18/2008 9:09:12 AM   
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RE: Riddle me this, Batman. - 3/18/2008 10:49:09 AM   
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...i am constantly amazed what subjects get their own wiki page.......



*grins* yeaaaah...
 
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RE: Riddle me this, Batman. - 3/18/2008 11:18:44 AM   
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The word friend is from a German root, and is spelled the same, but it is pronoubced "frund" in German.

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The German word for friend is spelled "Freund". As for the pronounciation of the "eu" sound in the middle, it is a unique thing, the best description I can come up with right now is "oi" as on moisture.

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RE: Riddle me this, Batman. - 3/18/2008 11:31:55 AM   
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rearrange them and see what you get.
 
It's like take an old album and playing it backwords.
 
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RE: Riddle me this, Batman. - 3/18/2008 11:34:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		I skimmed the Wiki article but did not find what I had heard.

I heard somewhere that fuck used to mean a method of planting a seed, that is you 'fuck' it into the ground. This is just something I heard so it is not gospel, but it kinda makes sense.

Hippie, I may have been wrong about friend, it may be that it is spelled fruend but pronounced the same in German and English. It's not all that important right now.

And you think my typoing is so bad that English is not my first language ? LOL.

Actually I have corresponded with people in foreign countries where English may be not only their second language, but possibly their third or fourth. You'd be surprised at how competent some of them are at using the English language. I have also met a few foreigners with absolutley perfect diction. I mean to the point where their lack of an accent is almost an accent in and of itself. For example they would say "puerto rico" not "porter rico" like most of us. Every word perfectly formed and with perfect grammar and sentence construction.

Something you might find interesting is a site (if they're still around) called engrish.com
Like a loaf of bread tht says "Burned to a crisp with all our heart", stuff like that.

I work in electronics and of course alot of it is imported, the service manuals can be a riot at times. In your TV is what's called a video jungle which processes the video signal and generates various pulses etc., for the operation of the set. Well one manufacturer called it a "video rain forest".

Just to touch on these service manuals for a moment - damnear every one of them has a warning in the beginning "This manual is for use by professional service technicians only, do not attempt to service this unit unless......." you know the rest, properly trained all this. But then you get to the pages with the setup instructions. 'Adjusting focus', 'symptom of misadjustment - poor focus' Then it goes on with it's words of wisdom "Adjust focus control for best focus". Well I'll be, thirty years in the business and I guess they guess I never knew that.

Even owner's manuals. 'Use the bass control to increase or decrease the low frequency content of the sound'. Lemme see here, bass and treble controls appeared on audio equipment when ? The 1920s ? For extra credit someone can look up Baxandall tone controls, which are basically bass and treble controls. I might be wrong on the spelling because it has been so long since I have seen the term. (might be Bandaxall not sure)

I've heard that some owner's manuals for cars have some pretty good "material" in them as well. Along with instructions on how to work the radio and AC, some of them find it necessary (or maybe humorous) to mention 'the brake pedal is used to stop or slow the vehicle'.

So much for that.

Back later.

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RE: Riddle me this, Batman. - 3/18/2008 11:53:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		charmd, maybe I am not the best at art appreciation. I am not seeing much out of the ordinary.

They give Mary a small halo, but not the kid, in fact it looks like they didn't give the kid any genitalia either. Under those conditions I might have to rise up from the dead too.

The tree looks like a bunch of trees all grown together. There are a bunch of animals at the bottom and the Woman on the left looks like she has wings, black wings.

Does any of this have anything to do with what you're talking about ? I am not much on art, I can't even paint a wall.

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RE: Riddle me this, Batman. - 3/18/2008 12:01:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

charmd, maybe I am not the best at art appreciation. I am not seeing much out of the ordinary.



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charmd, maybe I am not the best at art appreciation. I am not seeing much out of the ordinary.


The baby is holding a mirror, it is not looking at it’s self, but at whom ever is looking at the painting. I got curious after noting the shape of a dragon in Mary’s dress. So I decided to play along, and looked at the picture upside down with a mirror.
 
Try that.

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The tree looks like a bunch of trees all grown together. There are a bunch of animals at the bottom and the Woman on the left looks like she has wings, black wings.


Not sure I noticed that, I’ll look again.

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Does any of this have anything to do with what you're talking about ? I am not much on art, I can't even paint a wall.
 
 
Yes, hidden messages in art.
 
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RE: Riddle me this, Batman. - 3/18/2008 12:08:32 PM   
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the Woman on the left looks like she has wings, black wings


Oh yeah, I can't tell what they are a part of though.
 
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RE: Riddle me this, Batman. - 3/19/2008 6:53:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Does anyone know if the word bargain is spelt as bar gain, due to how deals used to be settled in the old days?

For instance; at the bar of a local saloon? Therefore, something to be gained at the bar?

Did the bartender hold some special place in helping to decide what was fair; hence the elaborate desk that judges sit behind?

Curiously,

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RE: Riddle me this, Batman. - 3/19/2008 11:42:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: charmdpetKeira

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ORIGINAL: kittinSol

The etymology of "fuck" is still unclear; but it's unlikely to be an acronym. Fun, though.


Hmmmm.... interesting. I wonder where that idea came from then. I've heard it from more then one source, admittedly, all from around here.
 
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As have I, It is BS.

FUCK = From Unlawful Carnal Knowledge
SHIT = Ship High In Transit

There are common BS Stories that got passed around a LOT it is no surprise you heard a variation.

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