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RE: The Prodical Slave - 10/8/2005 5:48:29 AM   
BriansGirl


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Oh really? And how might you do that? Nicks need to be unique, so while you might be able to create a similar name that might be mistaken, unless you actually hacked into the system and located the password, I don't see how it could be done. Although I'm certainly interested to hear. As for the "join" date, again, a system generated field that could only be adjusted by hacking into the code. Perhaps you know how to do that. I certainly don't and don't really care to do it, but I would love to hear how it is done, or better yet, how many times you have actually done it since you certainly imply that you have.


I was taught how to do that in a chat room, right here on collarme. When I saw it I was astounded. I don't recall how it was done, but if you go into a chat room, you will notice people changing their names in the chat room. Ask one of them how to do it. Then change your name to BriansGirl (you have my permission). I'm not sure that under my nickname you could post on the message board. I know you couldn't look at my mail. But I DO know that under my nick name YOU could pose as me while in the chat room. Were you to do that, you could make trouble for me with Brian. But ya know what........he KNOWS me. He KNOWS what I am capable of and what I am not. I told him I created Needs2Serve four days after we split, and he believes me because he knows me. You do not have that luxury of knowing me, or you would believe me too.

I'm not trying to pick a fight with you FlButtSlut......I am just trying to point out that collarme is not a real reliable forum as far as security while on this site is concerned. I also am constantly choosing 'DO NOT SAVE MY PASSWORD" on this site, and yet time and time again, when I bring up collarme, it brings me right into my nickname.....no need to type in a password. I have had to go to extra lengths each time I leave this site to clear my internet history, my cookies and my online files in order to keep this private. I am by no means computer savvy enough to be able to hack into another's computer. I am just sharing with you a huge flaw in this site. I contributed to this site back in June or July when I first joined because I realized very early on that it had a lot of problems with it, and accepted that you get what you pay for. Perhaps with money they could fix some of the security issues. AND there is another, more human component for you to consider. I have just admitted I have been on this site since June or July, yet my BriansGirl nick name tells you I (the person) joined in October of this year....just a few days ago. Many, many people wrote me letters right after I created this new name........they all assume I am new, yet I am not. It is just a new name. This site doesn't say "Date new name created" it says, "Date joined". As far as your question as to how many times I have changed my nick name to someone elses............not that I owe YOU any kind of explanation, but I have done it twice. Both times on the night that it was shared with me how to do it. The first time I did it, I changed it back to my very first nick name, which I thought was really cute and regretted deleting. And then to a person on this site I consider a friend to see if it would really work. It did. And for the record (because I am beginning to see this is how your mind works) I never used that information to pose as someone else. It was just an interesting flaw in security on this site, that now YOU know about too. Use that information as you will. You said that this is a system generated field that ONLYcould be adjusted by hacking into the code. Well, I am here to tell you, that you are mistaken. Because I sure didn't hack into the code, and I created the nickname roughly four weeks ago now. So, you just can't say ONLY. There are things that even YOU can't be sure about FlButtSlut. You may be suspicious, and that is all well and good, but you can't unequivocally say it can't happen, because I am here as proof that it can.

Again, I joined collarme sometimes in late June or early July under an original nickname that I cancelled a month later. I do not have an explanation as to why needs2serve shows me joining back in April of 2004. I did not know that collar me existed back then. And that is really all I can offer with regard to an explanation. Perhaps this nick name was used by another and it thinks I am that person returned. You can ask Brian yourself, that when I did give him my password to that nickname, and he went into it to see that I was telling the truth that I had not been responding to any of the Doms that wrote to me, and that I had created it only for the purpose I told him I had, that I had over 9 pages of messages (never opened), dated no more than two weeks old, most likely welcoming me to the site (because they saw me on the list of newly joined). Perhaps this will convince you, FlButtSlut, that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

For the record, cuz I know you are so deeply concerned, Brian and I spent a magnificent day together yesterday. I love him and am more committed to him than ever and I feel that love and committment returned. He has forgiven me for my childish, but well-intentioned deception and I continue to work hard on my issues that caused our split to begin with.

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RE: The Prodical Slave - 10/8/2005 9:46:04 AM   
kimmypuss


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About changing names in chat - it is possible here and on many other chat sites. It's generally preceded by a notice on the board such as 'BriansGirl is now known as 'Need2ServeBrian'...while in the chat room only.
It's usually done for fun - never really occurred to me that people would steal other's valid nicks to impersonate them...yikes. Is that truly possible?
Wouldn't a "somebody already has that nick" message come up?
Or is the chat room independent of the site data?









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RE: The Prodical Slave - 10/8/2005 9:55:54 AM   
Delvin


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ORIGINAL: RainGod

I have a rather serious question, and after having searched My own soul for days for the answer, I find nothing. Now I come to you here in this worthy forum where I am hoping some of you regulars I have seen post here can offer your insight to this perplexing question.

Let's say a Man has a slave... collared, real-time... and she runs away. Not literally runs away, but comes and says it is over. What choice has He but to release her? So He does.... sadly.

She is gone for a few weeks and He grieves her loss a while, but then she comes back... wanting to be taken in, and most sincerely apologetic for her behavior. she didn't leave for another man, nor did she leave because she thought she was being abused. she simply left because of some issues in her personal life that did not involve the Master. she actually "watched" everything He did online as a lurker... reading his posts and longing to return.

How then should the Master accept her return? Surely she should be punished in some way for the sadness caused? How then should she be punished? What is appropriate? This matter is one in which I would greatly appreciate some serious feedback.

Thank you all in advance.



___

First things first, EVERYTHING you do involves your Master. Everything.

Second, simply leaving because of "something" that didn't include your Master and you sets both of you up for disaster. You have had or are having something happening in your life that obviously affected your life to such a degree as to leave him.

Third, Don't expect to be taken back.

Fourth, if the notion to accept you back is worth his time, EXPECT to work twice as hard as before to regain what little trust you shredded away.

As for appropriate punishment that is completely up to YOUR Master. If he doesn't take you back, then I would spend the next few months attempting to evaluate yourself and your worth as a slave for a future Master.

Nothing is hidden, kept secret or denied your Master.

Best of luck

D

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RE: The Prodical Slave - 10/8/2005 10:01:53 AM   
RainGod


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You are apparently missing the point where it is appearing that YOU are being deceived. Never thought you were on here trying to deceive anyone else, just to be clear there.


Sometimes even appearances can be deceiving, though. Besides, I don't really care when the nic was created. I do know it was not there before she emailed Me using it. It doesnt matter to Me when it was created, I know why it was used in reference to Me. If she is indeed trying to be deceptive, shame on Me then for allowing it. But I really do not think she is. There are things she does here in real life with Me... things she does for Me... (not sexually, but other ways) personal sacrifices she makes for My benefit that tells Me she wouldn't do something so silly as to lie about a dad-gum screen name. Christ...

I have to exhibit some trust just as she is trusting of Me. IF that trust is betrayed, it will need to be without question and of a far more serious nature than when a screen name was created or not. Maybe she already had the name and had deactivated it. Maybe she reactivated it for the reason she said she did. I am okay with that... I have had other screen names on here before... I am not trying to hide from nor deceive anyone.

quote:


The "joined" date cannot be edited by the user. That "nick" has been around a while. If you are a smart man, you will stop questioning ME and start asking her about the "new" nick she created before you met so that she could spy on you.


I am indeed a "smart man"... far more than you will ever know. However, As I said, if I am betrayed, it is because I allowed that trust to be broken. I have no feelings that I should be on gaurd with My girl, for we have far deeper reaching trusts and assurances in real life between us for her to do something silly such as lie about a nic.

Lastly, and with all due respect to a friend, FlButtSlut, the whole issue doesn't matter to Me. It seems a gross waste of time taken away from the original point of this thread. I am sorry if you cannot understand that. Peace.


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Love is a razor & I walk the line on that silver blade... slept in the dust with His daughter her eyes red with the slaughter of innocence... The evil that men do lives on & on.
~ Iron Maiden

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RE: The Prodical Slave - 10/8/2005 10:06:20 AM   
sweetpettjenny


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im not going to comment too much on this , because i feel Brian is a great guy. I don't personally need to hide my password i don't care if i type collarme and the sight pulls up and logs on, but lets just say i am not hiding from a hubby or signifigant other that may see what i am "up" to. Sometimes deception gets overwhelming and hiding your life and lies from a spouse gets difficult. I say fish or cut bait , ask for a divorce or end the swinging lifestyle. This subject hits close to home.. as i can and nor ever will forgive a cheater in my relationships. They do it once , it will occur again and again...
quote:

ORIGINAL: BriansGirl

quote:

Oh really? And how might you do that? Nicks need to be unique, so while you might be able to create a similar name that might be mistaken, unless you actually hacked into the system and located the password, I don't see how it could be done. Although I'm certainly interested to hear. As for the "join" date, again, a system generated field that could only be adjusted by hacking into the code. Perhaps you know how to do that. I certainly don't and don't really care to do it, but I would love to hear how it is done, or better yet, how many times you have actually done it since you certainly imply that you have.


I was taught how to do that in a chat room, right here on collarme. When I saw it I was astounded. I don't recall how it was done, but if you go into a chat room, you will notice people changing their names in the chat room. Ask one of them how to do it. Then change your name to BriansGirl (you have my permission). I'm not sure that under my nickname you could post on the message board. I know you couldn't look at my mail. But I DO know that under my nick name YOU could pose as me while in the chat room. Were you to do that, you could make trouble for me with Brian. But ya know what........he KNOWS me. He KNOWS what I am capable of and what I am not. I told him I created Needs2Serve four days after we split, and he believes me because he knows me. You do not have that luxury of knowing me, or you would believe me too.

I'm not trying to pick a fight with you FlButtSlut......I am just trying to point out that collarme is not a real reliable forum as far as security while on this site is concerned. I also am constantly choosing 'DO NOT SAVE MY PASSWORD" on this site, and yet time and time again, when I bring up collarme, it brings me right into my nickname.....no need to type in a password. I have had to go to extra lengths each time I leave this site to clear my internet history, my cookies and my online files in order to keep this private. I am by no means computer savvy enough to be able to hack into another's computer. I am just sharing with you a huge flaw in this site. I contributed to this site back in June or July when I first joined because I realized very early on that it had a lot of problems with it, and accepted that you get what you pay for. Perhaps with money they could fix some of the security issues. AND there is another, more human component for you to consider. I have just admitted I have been on this site since June or July, yet my BriansGirl nick name tells you I (the person) joined in October of this year....just a few days ago. Many, many people wrote me letters right after I created this new name........they all assume I am new, yet I am not. It is just a new name. This site doesn't say "Date new name created" it says, "Date joined". As far as your question as to how many times I have changed my nick name to someone elses............not that I owe YOU any kind of explanation, but I have done it twice. Both times on the night that it was shared with me how to do it. The first time I did it, I changed it back to my very first nick name, which I thought was really cute and regretted deleting. And then to a person on this site I consider a friend to see if it would really work. It did. And for the record (because I am beginning to see this is how your mind works) I never used that information to pose as someone else. It was just an interesting flaw in security on this site, that now YOU know about too. Use that information as you will. You said that this is a system generated field that ONLYcould be adjusted by hacking into the code. Well, I am here to tell you, that you are mistaken. Because I sure didn't hack into the code, and I created the nickname roughly four weeks ago now. So, you just can't say ONLY. There are things that even YOU can't be sure about FlButtSlut. You may be suspicious, and that is all well and good, but you can't unequivocally say it can't happen, because I am here as proof that it can.

Again, I joined collarme sometimes in late June or early July under an original nickname that I cancelled a month later. I do not have an explanation as to why needs2serve shows me joining back in April of 2004. I did not know that collar me existed back then. And that is really all I can offer with regard to an explanation. Perhaps this nick name was used by another and it thinks I am that person returned. You can ask Brian yourself, that when I did give him my password to that nickname, and he went into it to see that I was telling the truth that I had not been responding to any of the Doms that wrote to me, and that I had created it only for the purpose I told him I had, that I had over 9 pages of messages (never opened), dated no more than two weeks old, most likely welcoming me to the site (because they saw me on the list of newly joined). Perhaps this will convince you, FlButtSlut, that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

For the record, cuz I know you are so deeply concerned, Brian and I spent a magnificent day together yesterday. I love him and am more committed to him than ever and I feel that love and committment returned. He has forgiven me for my childish, but well-intentioned deception and I continue to work hard on my issues that caused our split to begin with.

quote:

I'm not trying to pick a fight with you FlButtSlut......I am just trying to point out that collarme is not a real reliable forum as far as security while on this site is concerned. I also am constantly choosing 'DO NOT SAVE MY PASSWORD" on this site, and yet time and time again, when I bring up collarme, it brings me right into my nickname.....no need to type in a password. I have had to go to extra lengths each time I leave this site to clear my internet history, my cookies and my online files in order to keep this private. I am by no means computer savvy enough to be able to hack into another's computer. I am just sharing with you a huge flaw in this site. I contributed to this site back in June or July when I first joined because I realized very early on that it had a lot of problems with it, and accepted that you get what you pay for. Perhaps with money they could fix some of the security

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RE: The Prodical Slave - 10/8/2005 10:06:57 AM   
RainGod


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quote:

never really occurred to me that people would steal other's valid nicks to impersonate them...yikes. Is that truly possible?
Wouldn't a "somebody already has that nick" message come up?
Or is the chat room independent of the site data?


Most chat servers where nic switching is possible also includes 'password-protected nics'. I have no idea about how message boards work. It would be really nice if the Mods would join in this conversation and enlighten us, please?

Is the CM server completely infallible? Is there some other explaination for the misdate of an online identity?


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Love is a razor & I walk the line on that silver blade... slept in the dust with His daughter her eyes red with the slaughter of innocence... The evil that men do lives on & on.
~ Iron Maiden

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RE: The Prodical Slave - 10/8/2005 10:32:41 AM   
sweetpettjenny


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i believe in what i posted as the truth , from what she states in her post as Trying to hide her identity??? from who ??? the i know who you are through a nickname Ghost that rats you out??? come on lol

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RE: The Prodical Slave - 10/8/2005 2:09:27 PM   
fyreredsub


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quote:

ORIGINAL: RainGod

Would that not encourage it to occur again? If someone isn't made cognizant of the fact something is wrong to do, will they not know it is wrong to do again?

Or is it perfectly ok for a slave to run away, leaving a Master broken hearted time after time?



Even if the slave is punished one can't guarentee that such an episode won't happen again if that is the nature of the slave.

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"Accordingly, men must then either fulfill their nature, or deny it, and in denying their nature, deny us ours, for ours is the complement to theirs. " Renegades

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RE: The Prodical Slave - 10/8/2005 3:10:10 PM   
RainGod


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Even if the slave is punished one can't guarentee that such an episode won't happen again if that is the nature of the slave.


I agree... afterall, she is only bound to Me by her will to be so. If she chooses to go, I must let her. I do think, however, she realizes there would be no returning ever again under any circumstances if she did.

she is sincerely making real steps in a positive direction and as long as I see progress, I cannot shun her, nor doubt her intentions. As I also said before, if she does break My mortal heart again, I have no one to blame other than Myself, for I allowed it.


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Love is a razor & I walk the line on that silver blade... slept in the dust with His daughter her eyes red with the slaughter of innocence... The evil that men do lives on & on.
~ Iron Maiden

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RE: The Prodical Slave - 10/8/2005 4:37:42 PM   
fyreredsub


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quote:

ORIGINAL: RainGod

quote:

Even if the slave is punished one can't guarentee that such an episode won't happen again if that is the nature of the slave.


I agree... afterall, she is only bound to Me by her will to be so. If she chooses to go, I must let her. I do think, however, she realizes there would be no returning ever again under any circumstances if she did.

she is sincerely making real steps in a positive direction and as long as I see progress, I cannot shun her, nor doubt her intentions. As I also said before, if she does break My mortal heart again, I have no one to blame other than Myself, for I allowed it.



as long as you see the postive steps taking place,continue to 'go for it'.

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"Accordingly, men must then either fulfill their nature, or deny it, and in denying their nature, deny us ours, for ours is the complement to theirs. " Renegades

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RE: The Prodical Slave - 10/8/2005 11:11:38 PM   
Wolfie648


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quote:

Let's say a Man has a slave... collared, real-time... and she runs away. Not literally runs away, but comes and says it is over. What choice has He but to release her? So He does.... sadly.


insert typical disclaimer here - personal opinion blah blah blah.

Personally, anyone willing to leave me, for real or not, isn't worth having. Either they are testing me - not acceptable, or they really want to leave. Let them run and run as far as they can. Farther is better.

On the other side, many slaves want to know they are owned - and will continue to be owned under any circumstance. Really the concept (in their mind) is that they can't escape and they want to know you will come after them. The question is do you want to be tested or not?

An owned slave will not run. That isn't said to be mean it's said to help you clarify which side of that line you want to be on. _as I see it_ and I do not see it as most people do.

D (owner of j)


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RE: The Prodical Slave - 10/8/2005 11:16:51 PM   
FLButtSlut


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quote:

ORIGINAL: BriansGirl

I was taught how to do that in a chat room, right here on collarme. When I saw it I was astounded. I don't recall how it was done, but if you go into a chat room, you will notice people changing their names in the chat room. Ask one of them how to do it. Then change your name to BriansGirl (you have my permission). I'm not sure that under my nickname you could post on the message board. I know you couldn't look at my mail. But I DO know that under my nick name YOU could pose as me while in the chat room. Were you to do that, you could make trouble for me with Brian. But ya know what........he KNOWS me. He KNOWS what I am capable of and what I am not. I told him I created Needs2Serve four days after we split, and he believes me because he knows me. You do not have that luxury of knowing me, or you would believe me too.


Actually, I have the luxury of knowing something about computers and whether or not a "basic" user can change a system generated date. The answer is NO. What I know about you is only what your Brian has told me personally, not on the boards during your little "sabbatical".

quote:

ORIGINAL: BriansGirl
I have had to go to extra lengths each time I leave this site to clear my internet history, my cookies and my online files in order to keep this private. I am by no means computer savvy enough to be able to hack into another's computer. I am just sharing with you a huge flaw in this site. I contributed to this site back in June or July when I first joined because I realized very early on that it had a lot of problems with it, and accepted that you get what you pay for. Perhaps with money they could fix some of the security issues. AND there is another, more human component for you to consider. I have just admitted I have been on this site since June or July, yet my BriansGirl nick name tells you I (the person) joined in October of this year....just a few days ago. Many, many people wrote me letters right after I created this new name........they all assume I am new, yet I am not. It is just a new name. This site doesn't say "Date new name created" it says, "Date joined". As far as your question as to how many times I have changed my nick name to someone elses............not that I owe YOU any kind of explanation, but I have done it twice. Both times on the night that it was shared with me how to do it. The first time I did it, I changed it back to my very first nick name, which I thought was really cute and regretted deleting. And then to a person on this site I consider a friend to see if it would really work. It did. And for the record (because I am beginning to see this is how your mind works) I never used that information to pose as someone else. It was just an interesting flaw in security on this site, that now YOU know about too. Use that information as you will. You said that this is a system generated field that ONLYcould be adjusted by hacking into the code. Well, I am here to tell you, that you are mistaken. Because I sure didn't hack into the code, and I created the nickname roughly four weeks ago now. So, you just can't say ONLY. There are things that even YOU can't be sure about FlButtSlut. You may be suspicious, and that is all well and good, but you can't unequivocally say it can't happen, because I am here as proof that it can.


You can create as many profiles as you want on this site, it isn't changing your nick name it is creating a new one. Ask any Mod, as the question has come up often. I would certainly love to hear from anyone who has successfully changed only their nick name without creating a brand new profile, because I think most of us realize that it can't be done. As for it saving the password, I know that it does that, and I find it very convenient, but then again, I do not have a husband or anyone that I might be trying to hide my activities from.

quote:

ORIGINAL: BriansGirl
Perhaps this will convince you, FlButtSlut, that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.


This is very true. A leopard never changes their spots either. Interesting concept, don't you think?


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RE: The Prodical Slave - 10/9/2005 4:05:44 AM   
BriansGirl


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quote:

I would certainly love to hear from anyone who has successfully changed only their nick name without creating a brand new profile, because I think most of us realize that it can't be done. As for it saving the password, I know that it does that, and I find it very convenient, but then again, I do not have a husband or anyone that I might be trying to hide my activities from.



Okay, I will do the heavy lifting FOR you. I just came back from a chat room where a very nice person by the name dieselkitty answered my question as to how to do it. Go into a chat room and type the following: /nick BriansGirl (and then hit enter). It will say that you are now BriansGirl.


As far as the rest of your statement is concerned.............touche.

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RE: The Prodical Slave - 10/9/2005 5:56:24 AM   
sweetpettjenny


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You can only change your nickname via a chat room , you can't throughout collarme ... lol touche
quote:

ORIGINAL: BriansGirl

quote:

I would certainly love to hear from anyone who has successfully changed only their nick name without creating a brand new profile, because I think most of us realize that it can't be done. As for it saving the password, I know that it does that, and I find it very convenient, but then again, I do not have a husband or anyone that I might be trying to hide my activities from.



Okay, I will do the heavy lifting FOR you. I just came back from a chat room where a very nice person by the name dieselkitty answered my question as to how to do it. Go into a chat room and type the following: /nick BriansGirl (and then hit enter). It will say that you are now BriansGirl.


As far as the rest of your statement is concerned.............touche.


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RE: The Prodical Slave - 10/9/2005 8:09:03 AM   
LordODiscipline


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I would not "accept her return".

Life has us facing choices.. she made her's... and, (as it turned out) it was the wrong one.

In my opinion - if I were to accept her back, I would be making a mistake and compounding her mistake.

No point in going through it a second time - and, I know you will.

~J

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