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Useless Knowledge - 3/18/2008 3:56:02 PM

Lynnxz

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*Grumpy*

I've recieved several emails from Dominants, several who seem to have many years of experience, and respect in the community, saying that because I am in school, my "value" as a submissive is ruined. Apparently, by the time I get out of school, I will be old and fat anyway, and no one will want me. *eyeroll*

I was wondering if anyone else had an opinion on this. Why would you not want your sub/slave to better themselves? I would never, ever, consider dropping out of college to please a Master. I'm going to be an LPN, and I'm going to work in an ICU burn ward. No flexiblity on that. At all. Maybe that doesn't make me a real sub. Screw it, I'll go get a real sub from Quiznoes.

Do they not approve becuse it would be time away from them? Is it a non-submissive thing to do?

I'm honestly trying to figure out why this is a problem. :-/ Flame away!

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RE: Useless Knowledge - 3/18/2008 4:02:39 PM

FRSguy

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I think its great that you are in school. You should allways try to beter yourself and the way I see it I dont want a sub that cant walk out the door at any time...
Now, just get one bad grade little girl.........lol

Your fine just the way you are... stop playing with insecure people.

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RE: Useless Knowledge - 3/18/2008 4:03:36 PM

LeatherBentOne

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They are being selfish and not looking after your best interests.

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RE: Useless Knowledge - 3/18/2008 4:06:20 PM

jenf

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Why be a LPN? Go for it and get your RN. Trust me.

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RE: Useless Knowledge - 3/18/2008 4:07:52 PM

Lynnxz

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LPN first, get the job, then back to school for RN. ^_^

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RE: Useless Knowledge - 3/18/2008 4:09:18 PM

SteelofUtah

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It is only an issue for selfish people.

If I were interested in you I would hope for a compromise such as could you move your classes to Utah and go to school out here so that you could be close to me and we could have a relationship. And when you did become an LPN I would hope that we could continue to compramise even if that ment uprooting my life and home and family to be where you would be needed.

The Problem with these long term goals is that they usually aren't very productive to a D/s or even an S&M relationship of length. I could see you coming out for a sex filled weekend and then looking at 4 months of no contact I find that My needs would not be met and thus cause too much strain on a newly formed fragille relationship to begin with.

I understand your frustration but I understand thiers too.

The question is are you willing to work around the obstacles or are your heel dug in where you are for the long haul?

If you are where you are and nothing is going to change that I would suggest finding a LOCAL Dom who can work around your schedual and leave the Long Distance behind you.

Like I said you seem like a Great girl and I would support you in whatever you choose to do the question is how are BOTH of our needs going to be met? I just don't see anything NON-LOCAL working for any extended period of time because your school is demanding on your time and if a Master is going to be okay with that demand you will have to allow HIM/HER to be Demanding on the rest of your time. If it is Long Distance how can that function reasonably in a SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP Sort of way?

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RE: Useless Knowledge - 3/18/2008 4:10:18 PM

sillyfool

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i think the Dom's that do this are insecure. They want their slaves [not submissives] to be "barefoot and pregnant" so-to speak. For a female submissive or slave to be making more money than their superior Dominant half--how would that make them feel? Their property to be independent and have a life outside their Master? Say no more—I can’t take it! xD Not all—but some.

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RE: Useless Knowledge - 3/18/2008 4:12:24 PM

Kirren

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Any one who would hold you back, ridcule you or bash you for bettering yourself is sooo not worth your time. It shows lack of ambition on their part and serious issues that could become deeper later.

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RE: Useless Knowledge - 3/18/2008 4:16:14 PM

abeke

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There are probably a great deal of submissives who have no intention of bettering themselves, suggest these Dom's seek those submissives.

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RE: Useless Knowledge - 3/18/2008 4:16:19 PM

Lynnxz

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Most of my relationships, for some reason or another, have been long distance. They are ok, I suppose to a point, but you are right, with school it's hard to keep the relationship alive, weither it's a bdsm type thing, or a vanilla relationship. If we did connect on a significant level, I'd have no problem transfering to another school.

However, I don't think distance is a good reason to demand any submissive to drop out of school completely. This latest guy was only about an hour away anyway. >.>

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RE: Useless Knowledge - 3/18/2008 4:18:17 PM

sillyfool

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SteelofUtah

It is only an issue for selfish people.

If I were interested in you I would hope for a compromise such as could you move your classes to Utah and go to school out here so that you could be close to me and we could have a relationship. And when you did become an LPN I would hope that we could continue to compramise even if that ment uprooting my life and home and family to be where you would be needed.

The Problem with these long term goals is that they usually aren't very productive to a D/s or even an S&M relationship of length. I could see you coming out for a sex filled weekend and then looking at 4 months of no contact I find that My needs would not be met and thus cause too much strain on a newly formed fragille relationship to begin with.

I understand your frustration but I understand thiers too.

The question is are you willing to work around the obstacles or are your heel dug in where you are for the long haul?

If you are where you are and nothing is going to change that I would suggest finding a LOCAL Dom who can work around your schedual and leave the Long Distance behind you.

Like I said you seem like a Great girl and I would support you in whatever you choose to do the question is how are BOTH of our needs going to be met? I just don't see anything NON-LOCAL working for any extended period of time because your school is demanding on your time and if a Master is going to be okay with that demand you will have to allow HIM/HER to be Demanding on the rest of your time. If it is Long Distance how can that function reasonably in a SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP Sort of way?

As Always

Steel

Did Lynnxz mean respectful people? i thought she was talking about the people who are down right.. 'submissives should not go to school' On my profile i list the information i am in school getting my BSN to become a RN... and the negative comments i get are, "it is a complete waste of time for you to educate yourself in an area that you as a submissive [really their context is slave] are not going to need. Becuase you are just three holes. [okay crude, i just wanted to say holes--but seriously] ^_^

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RE: Useless Knowledge - 3/18/2008 4:18:59 PM

SteelofUtah

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I agree in fact I would be more upset if a girl wanted to quit such a task than I would ever be at her taking on a task.

Distance sucks.

I hope you find something that works hun I know if you look long enough you will find it.

Steel

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RE: Useless Knowledge - 3/18/2008 4:23:58 PM

petdave

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Wow... i could see saying that if you were going for a liberal arts degree, but for nursing? That's really stupid. Maybe they're the type to feel threatened by a female submissive who earns more than them?

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RE: Useless Knowledge - 3/18/2008 4:26:59 PM

ottRopesandKnots

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Shit, I'd much rather have my submissives do well and succeed in school and get decent jobs. All the better to care for me in the long run. Being submissive doesn't mean you don't have to have any value, so find a compatible Dom who sees these things in a similar way as you do. Any chick can be a three hole submissive, I prefer someone who can bring more than that to the table but still understand submission.

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RE: Useless Knowledge - 3/18/2008 4:33:07 PM

slvebtchdeCarlos

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As His slave, my Master insists that i be the best i possibly can for Him. He doesn't want an uneducated or uninformed slave, nor does He want me to be physically out of shape. i am encouraged to go to the gym and exercise. When encouragement doesn't work, discipline usually does the trick.

If He wants me to be proficient in something (massage, for example), then i'm expected to take a class or somehow learn what i need to. i wouldn't be able to submit to a Dom who didn't want me at my best. How boring for both!

~slavebitch de Carlos

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RE: Useless Knowledge - 3/18/2008 4:33:43 PM

LadyLynx

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Gods, that is just soooo stupid!! (the idiotic Doms that is.) I mean, like what if, ( I am a writer, I am always thinking up scenarios.) you meet this guy, decide to drop out, get collared to him, get pregnant, (and may or may not married.) and maybe a few more kids, and he passes away, (or just up and leaves.) now your stuck raising a couple kids, when at least if you had finished schooling, you would be able to afford a halfway decent living, for you and family. Grrr. Lynnxz, looks like you have a good head on your shoulders and is not tempted by chumps like that guy. Good for you!

In general my concern would be,(if my slave, male or female, that is in my care.) is able to make a living for themselves if we break up, or I am gone. I am not saying that it wouldn't bug me just alittle bit if my slave were making more, lol. But I would work it out.

< Message edited by LadyLynx -- 3/18/2008 4:37:08 PM >

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RE: Useless Knowledge - 3/18/2008 4:46:14 PM

Lashra

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It could be that they are insecure and afraid if you go to school you just may learn more than them and make more money than they do when you graduate. So don't let these insecure people get you down. Completing your education gives you the opportunity for a better future. You realize that and a good dominant would too.

~Lashra

< Message edited by Lashra -- 3/18/2008 4:47:00 PM >

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RE: Useless Knowledge - 3/18/2008 4:53:01 PM

LuckyAlbatross

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Since you don't know this already- male dork doms will do ANYTHING they can to get you to:

a) pay attention to them
b) respond
c) put some weight on what they say
d) begin to doubt yourself

Once they get those four down, half the battle is already done in manipulating you to be "theirs" And LOTS of people all the time do all four of those things right from insult one.

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RE: Useless Knowledge - 3/18/2008 5:14:13 PM

DesFIP

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I doubt they have the experience and respect they claim to have. Look at it, they're so insecure they want somebody who can't earn a living and who won't be able to walk away from them, except to a shelter, because she has no training, no education, no degree.

Just block and ignore.

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RE: Useless Knowledge - 3/18/2008 5:53:25 PM

sambamanslilgirl

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when i first joined here (under another name before changing to my current one), i received a message not similar to yours however the "dominant" did say i was too old and fat to be submissive. granted i was hurt and told Daddy about it - He gave me advice which lifted my self-esteem.

i still get messages from "dominants" who feel it's fun after being rejected by another out of their league to diss someone like me however i simply ignore, block and delete.

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