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kittinSol -> Could curvy women be more intelligent? (3/19/2008 6:11:58 AM)

 
Could curvier women be more intelligent than their skinnier peers? A new study seems to suggest that this is the case. But there may be more to these findings than meets the eyes.

By DAN CHILDS
ABC News Medical Unit


The Claim
Researchers at the University of Pittsburgh and the University of California at Santa Barbara looked at data from a study of more than 16,000 women and girls from 1988 to 1994 that detailed their body measurements, as well as their education level and their scores on various cognitive tests.

What they report is that women with waists that were about 70 percent of the diameter of their hips scored slightly better on intelligence tests and tended to have a slightly higher level of education than women with a higher waist-to-hip ratio, or WHR.

The study was published in the journal of Evolution and Human Behavior.

"Controlling for other correlates of cognitive ability, women with lower WHRs and their children have significantly higher cognitive test scores," the study authors note in the article.

And the study authors also said that men, whether they know it or not, tend to prefer mates with a lower waist-to-hip ratio because of this advantage.

The researchers suggest that the reason for the findings lies in the differences between the fat stored in the hips and legs, and that stored in the belly. The fat surrounding fuller hips and thighs, they said, holds higher levels of omega-3 fatty acids, which foster brain growth.

http://i.abcnews.com/Health/story?id=3859175&page=1

YAY! Move over, Kate Moss: here we come!




justheather -> RE: Could curvy women be more intelligent? (3/19/2008 6:17:07 AM)

This article seems to be saying women with LOWER WHRs are more intelligent.
Seems to me that that's not curvy, that's fat.
Higher WHR = bigger curve between waist and hip.
Lower WHR = more apple shaped.
Am I misunderstanding something?




Luciferica -> RE: Could curvy women be more intelligent? (3/19/2008 6:20:11 AM)

I don't see where this article could possibly be accurate...stupid people come in all shapes and sizes




petdave -> RE: Could curvy women be more intelligent? (3/19/2008 6:24:13 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: justheather
Higher WHR = bigger curve between waist and hip.
Lower WHR = more apple shaped.
Am I misunderstanding something?



Yup, sorry.

Waist-to-hip ratio = waist measurement divided by hip measurement

If you have a 22" waist and a 44" hip measurement*, then 22/44 = .5 WHR
If you have a 35" waist and a 35" hip measurement, then 35/35 = 1 WHR
So the lower ratio has the more pronounced curve.

*(yay waist training!)




kittinSol -> RE: Could curvy women be more intelligent? (3/19/2008 6:25:59 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: justheather

This article seems to be saying women with LOWER WHRs are more intelligent.
Seems to me that that's not curvy, that's fat.
Higher WHR = bigger curve between waist and hip.
Lower WHR = more apple shaped.
Am I misunderstanding something?



Yes - a low WHR is hourglass. A high WHR is the apple on sticks type of figure. Below you will find a New Scientist article which tries to explain that hourglass also seems to mean higher fertility. Which can be a shag more than anything.

quote:



Women with a relatively low waist-to-hip ratio and large breasts had about 30 per cent higher levels of the female reproductive hormone estradiol than women with other combinations of body shapes, found Grazyna Jasienska, at Jagiellonian University in Krakow, Poland and colleagues.



http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4953-barbieshaped-women-more-fertile.html




kittinSol -> RE: Could curvy women be more intelligent? (3/19/2008 6:30:00 AM)

(Basically, if the study was correct - a highly unlikely proposition - it would imply that women's intelligence resides partly in their arses. Which is a bit much to stomach [:D] .)




dollparts85 -> RE: Could curvy women be more intelligent? (3/19/2008 6:31:18 AM)

my hip to waist ratio says I'm apple shaped *sighs* LOL I gots big boobs and hips though! But appartently, my waist is huge too LOL [;)]




Justme696 -> RE: Could curvy women be more intelligent? (3/19/2008 6:32:43 AM)

mmm so a diet makes you less intelligent? scary  lol




colouredin -> RE: Could curvy women be more intelligent? (3/19/2008 6:32:48 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

(Basically, if the study was correct - a highly unlikely proposition - it would imply that women's intelligence resides partly in their arses. Which is a bit much to stomach [:D] .)


*rolls eyes,
oh dear hun I expected more of you tut tut




kittinSol -> RE: Could curvy women be more intelligent? (3/19/2008 6:34:40 AM)

I wouldn't worry about it. I just wish they'd conduct studies on the correlation between the length of men's shlongs and their IQs. Or between the size of their balls and how far up they climb on the social ladder. That kind of shit.

It would be interesting to find out if there was a link [8|] .

My point is: WHY are women seemingly the only subjects of such useless studies?





kittinSol -> RE: Could curvy women be more intelligent? (3/19/2008 6:35:45 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: colouredin

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

(Basically, if the study was correct - a highly unlikely proposition - it would imply that women's intelligence resides partly in their arses. Which is a bit much to stomach [:D] .)


*rolls eyes,
oh dear hun I expected more of you tut tut



I thought you'd like that too, darlin'.




camille65 -> RE: Could curvy women be more intelligent? (3/19/2008 6:38:44 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: colouredin

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

(Basically, if the study was correct - a highly unlikely proposition - it would imply that women's intelligence resides partly in their arses. Which is a bit much to stomach [:D] .)


*rolls eyes,
oh dear hun I expected more of you tut tut

 Is it just me or is this a slightly disguised 'fat thread'?[8|]Apple shaped (overweight) equals being not so smart.Curvy shaped (not overweight) equals being smarter. My mother is scrawny. 5'10" and weighs 115. She has virtually no shape lol but golly gee her IQ is 175.




kittinSol -> RE: Could curvy women be more intelligent? (3/19/2008 6:41:07 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: camille65

Is it just me or is this a slightly disguised 'fat thread'?



Sshhhhh [8D] .




sambamanslilgirl -> RE: Could curvy women be more intelligent? (3/19/2008 6:41:10 AM)

*smiles for graduating twice Magna Cum Laude*




colouredin -> RE: Could curvy women be more intelligent? (3/19/2008 6:42:24 AM)

Well im like a genius and im curvy so it works for me :D

I think academics spend too much time looking for causal patterns where there are none, I remember my last year of my degree my lecturer stood up and said "I am sure you will all go out now and find nice research positions, the problem is there are no 'rules' no generalisations, everything can be proven and disproven, of course dont tell your employers that" and its true, we can look for links but there will always be exceptions so I dont know why we bother really, it doesnt make much of a differance anyway and our resources would be put to far better use looking for cures for cancer and the like.




kittinSol -> RE: Could curvy women be more intelligent? (3/19/2008 6:47:39 AM)

Very true - it's easy to make a random proposition ("curvy women are cleverer"; "symmetrical visage = high fertility") and to go and find facts and figures which seem to correlate such a proposition.

And it's obvious that women make for ideal subjects for such sensationalistic studies - easy fodder for media scrutiny and self-critical little sillies that we are [8|] .

So, who are the scientists on the boards? I'd like to commission a study on men, for a change ;-p.




mnottertail -> RE: Could curvy women be more intelligent? (3/19/2008 6:52:46 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

(Basically, if the study was correct - a highly unlikely proposition - it would imply that women's intelligence resides partly in their arses. Which is a bit much to stomach [:D] .)


Yet no one gives it a moments thought when they call ME a smartass.  Well, you now see how wrong that truely is.

I will also point out if you have that kind of ass you will need to know 45 safewords in forward and reverse order, archaic and current meanings and several other things, so you would have to be of above average intelligence as a matter of survival.


From the seat of knowledge,

Ron




meatcleaver -> RE: Could curvy women be more intelligent? (3/19/2008 6:54:10 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittinSol

Could curvier women be more intelligent than their skinnier peers?


I hope not. My pulling technique requires a minimum IQ and a maximum sex drive. I also expect dates to take an early taxi home in the morning with a smile on their face and no answering back. Intelligence just makes a woman troublesome and I could do without that. It's not as if I want a conversation with her, I have male friends for that!




kittinSol -> RE: Could curvy women be more intelligent? (3/19/2008 6:55:33 AM)

Ron and meatcleaver, in my office at 4pm sharpish. I'll provide the wet plimsoll.




BossyShoeBitch -> RE: Could curvy women be more intelligent? (3/19/2008 6:58:16 AM)

DUH!  Of course we are!
I am curvy and I am the smartest woman I know.. (Besides LA  :)  )




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