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stella41b -> RE: SUGGESTION - Newbie Boot camp (3/25/2008 7:14:49 AM)
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Speak for yourself when it comes to the I-facade. I don't have one. Who I am online matches who I am in reality, and from what I've experienced over the years I find this is also true of most people I have met.
But what is wrong with getting it wrong and fucking up sometimes? It's called life, and the bottom line I guess is that we all make mistakes, we all fuck up, and we all sometimes get ourselves into situations which we neither wanted or anticipated. To me being mature and responsible is accepting that such things happen, that we're not always right, and that we can learn from our own mistakes.
Show me someone who has proven eternal wisdom here, and who has always had that sort of wisdom and I might go along with tha boot camp idea but I know myself that wisdom comes out of making mistakes and learning. Those professing to have this fountain of wisdom at their disposal are really only sitting in their safe locations with that sanctimonious attitude and mindset 'It could never happen to me' making judgments about other people and how stupid they are and suffering from some sort of amnesia about how they themselves were once naive and made mistakes.
I'm not saying don't care about other people or about their welfare, about the world, society, or the community as it shows you are a thinking, feeling, caring human being. But to me the bottom line remains the same, you cannot teach anyone who isn't willing to learn, and you can give advice until you're blue in the face but until someone actually chooses to take that advice then these are just your opinion.
Some people are born with common sense, others get by on survival instincts and self-preservation, and some have to learn either one or the other or both through their own experiences. Others are more careful, they find out the information first, ask others, and there are times when caution is to be encouraged.
Let us not forget you're trying to prevent the most infinite, random and illogical characteristics of human nature - stupidity.
Let us not forget what stupidity means here. Stupidity isn't about making mistakes or trying to realise plans that go pear-shaped - that's human, that's creating opportunities to learn, to develop, mature, grow, in other words it's living.
Stupidity is when you refuse to accept that you're getting it wrong, making mistakes or even making a complete balls up of the situation.
I'm probably not that old, I just look it. But two things I've learned from life is that you cannot control stupidity and you also cannot reason with idiots.
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