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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

Ok, so mind you, this femdom is in a bad way lately.  Other femdoms will know what this means -- too little sleep, too much stress, not enough playtime = very one track mind.

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ORIGINAL: CoasttoCoast

it could be argued that it's immoral because the person needs the financial help, therefore their consent is coerced, and not really consent.

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ORIGINAL: Pyrrsefanie

Canadian boys and hockey... oh, these are a few of my favorite things!  (Also, go Islanders, suck it, Penguins!)

My boy and I are currently in the midst of a somewhat similar arrangement.  He has discovered that being my little sissy bitch is not necessarily a bad thing.  In fact, he's actually begged me for shoes, panties, makeup, the whole nine yards!  So I make him work for it.  He wants me to give him tits?  He can earn the breast forms.  I reward his good behavior with panties and lingerie from his Victoria's Secret wishlist that I made him set up.

It's wonderful -- I get to live out my fantasy of being a 'sugar momma,' since for the first time in my life I'm financially stable enough to do so, AND I get a man willing to do my bidding in order to further his own humiliation and feminization! 

I figure that the "it's prostitution zomg!" argument doesn't apply because in your case and mine, earning the respective gear doesn't require sexual acts.

Hope that things settle down for you soon, and in the meantime, Bath and Body Works has a eucalyptus and spearmint pillow spray/lotion/etc. in their aromatherapy line for stress relief... I highly recommend it!

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ORIGINAL: CoasttoCoast

it could be argued that it's immoral because the person needs the financial help, therefore their consent is coerced, and not really consent.

I could buy that as a Utopian 'money shouldn't exist' type argument, but as a real world argument? I'm not sure.

If money in exchange for BDSM makes it immoral, then a lot of ProDommes are out of business. If needing money to survive makes any decision coerced, then 75% of the US is employed against their will. (okay, well maybe I'll give you that one ;) )

People deciding what they will do for money is a free choice. Further, despite many arguments I'll likely get from my countrymen to the contrary, Hockey is not as important as food and shelter (I know, I know!). While you might be able to make an argument that recieving a service in exchange for money needed for food is excessively coersive (and I'd disagree strongly with that argument), the same can't be said about Hockey - he can simply go without.

But to the orginal post I have only one word. HOT. Actually, make it three words; append 'HOT HOT!' to that. ;)

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Pardon me for kibbitzing in your forum, but on behalf of all Canadians, I would like to extend our gratitude for ensuring that our boys are able to realize their birthright. All I ask is that when you are working on that bruised shoulder or upper ankle injury he received from being slammed into the boards at 25 mph that you keep in mind that he will be required to hit the ice again in the next day or two...

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

Ok, so mind you, this femdom is in a bad way lately.  Other femdoms will know what this means -- too little sleep, too much stress, not enough playtime = very one track mind.

I am concerned for your well-being, but I marvel at how your mind works under such conditions.

This is the sort of step-by-step, self-ensnared scenario I find facinating. If you heat a pan slowly, a frog will allow itself to be cooked without hopping away. Provided the proper motivation and encouragment the same frog will take down a pan, fill it with water, turn on the stove, hop in the pot and say "I am so lucky! You are so good to me!"

So what sort of um, behavior modifications was it? Right. What sort of those things do you like to uh, contemplate?  

Back to your fantasy of owning a hockey team one stick at a time, the dynamic you describe does not seem to be that far from some very real arrangments between dominant men and women in an arrangment of a traditional marriage - less now than in the distant past because women have more opportunities and more power. In my own family, several decades ago an aunt was widowed and then married a man for the sole purpose of finding means to support herself.

Where your fantasy scratches an itch, oops! I mean, crosses a line for me is the photo sessions. Particularly if the possibly less-than enthusiastic participant is pursuaded to sign a release form. And the photos are published. In a hockey magazine. And maybe he doesn't find out until his teammates show him the pictures. In the real world that would seem to be an obvious moral, and possibly legal, threshold.

Great thread again. Hope you get some sleep, but not so much as to take this recent wicked edge off!

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Where your fantasy scratches an itch, oops! I mean, crosses a line for me is the photo sessions. Particularly if the possibly less-than enthusiastic participant is pursuaded to sign a release form. And the photos are published. In a hockey magazine. And maybe he doesn't find out until his teammates show him the pictures. In the real world that would seem to be an obvious moral, and possibly legal, threshold.

Great thread again. Hope you get some sleep, but not so much as to take this recent wicked edge off!

Very interesting.  I guess I find it kind of immoral on some level because it's a sexual need being fulfilled by a man who is doing it because he is coerced, not becuase he wants to. Of course, there are men that would not mind it and actually enjoy being coerced.  The more I think of it, it has such great potential for a long story.   While I would not consider the idea of taking the compromising pictures and sending them to a hockey magazine "just for fun" or cruelty, it would be interesting to consider that if one of those many young hockey studs were to go pro, he'd be on the hook to continue behaving for fear the pictures could be released.  That's a hot idea (not a hot reality, big difference - I'm not into blackmail). 

Akasha