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RE: Logistics of moving - 3/26/2008 9:10:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		I once  moved to Italy.  Make sure that you have your Visa ready if necessary.  (I actually got deported because I misunderstood the rules and had to wait 6 months to get back to my home.)  Pets are the hardest to move so if you have any it might be best to give them to loving homes.

I choses to ship my things via UPS.  I did not move furniture but moved into a furnished apartment.  If you have valuable things like jewelry keep it in your carry on luggage. 

Keep in mind that even though both the British and Americans speak English that there are many differences in meanings.  Sometimes sentence structures are turned around, sometimes words take on whole new definitions.  For instance:  truck/lorry, hood/bonnet.  Try to get a good book in advance that will prepare you for some of the changes.  Business meetings are conducted differently, and tense moments are often overcome with inappropriate humor - not that you should do this but you should expect it.

The lifestyle is more out in the open in the UK which may make that part of things easier for you.  There are many on this site from there and I am sure that they could give you invaluable advice.

Moving to a new country is an incredible adventure as long as you can keep an open mind and show patience.  I am so thankful for my 3 years in Italy.  It fascinated me at how many things are similar between cultures and how many things are different.  The American way is not necessarily always the best way, and there are lots of wonders beyond our boundaries.


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RE: Logistics of moving - 3/26/2008 9:27:17 AM   
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If it was that important why did you buy it it's own Apartment just to keep it away from you? (Said the man who Manages a Storage Facilty and knows most people want what they have in storage but never really use it. At the end of the day it's just Stuff I agree with MissM.)


IME, every serious relationship comes with a white elephant. You fall in love with a man, then He introduces you to His white elephant, which He is generally NOT willing to get rid of.
My first husband had a 7 foot long, solid steel, GI computer desk. Truly.
My current Love and Master has a storage facility rented to store a 40 year old rusted car (no, i don't know what kind, I am so not a car chick - it's white, does that help? Or, white where it isn't rusted yet, anyway) that does not run. He admits he has not started it in over 20 years. His father bought it new. I had to grab a teenage son to help move it. So, yes, the nonrunning car has its own apartment.

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RE: Logistics of moving - 3/26/2008 6:05:35 PM   
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RE: Logistics of moving - 3/26/2008 6:13:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		And Oreos. Brits who have been to the US love Oreos, and last I heard the cookies were not available there.

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RE: Logistics of moving - 3/26/2008 6:33:51 PM   
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Take maple syrup and marshmallows :)


LOLOL

(ok, even though I refuse to do food play, I just got a great visual of explaining the purpose of those items to customs...LOL)


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RE: Logistics of moving - 3/26/2008 6:35:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Poetryinpain

And Oreos. Brits who have been to the US love Oreos, and last I heard the cookies were not available there.


*makes note to toss a couple of packages of them into my luggage for this trip*


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RE: Logistics of moving - 3/26/2008 8:51:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've moved about.. twelve times , but never overseas. I can tell you that moving sucks, no it royally does, there is nothing redeeming about moving itself - no it is not an adventure, anymore than grinding on WoW is an adventure. It is boring, stressful, draining work. Moving short distances is better than moving interstate, but only marginally. Short distances you can get your friends to help out.

Suggestions:

Clean out your junk. Garage sale, dump clothes you havent worn in ages at your local charity, whatever. Just reduce what you have.

Boxes and boxing: You're best bet is to hire them, there are lots of mobs in Australia that do it, but don't know abotu there. Good prices, and sturdy boxes built for moving make a huge difference. Mark the boxes with where they need to go in the house - most movers will read the directions and put them there if you take the effort. Number boxes that have important and immediate necessities in them, and keep a list of what you need and which numbered box it is in (you can also use colored stickers). Nothing worse than spending days moving, being tired, sore, and not being able to find something you need.

Moving yourself: Ropes, shackles, tie downs, you want to secure the loads so they shift minimally, you've a long way to go likely and the ropes and whatever WILL work loose. Remember to stop and check them every now and then, tighten them up. Make sure you know clearly what roads you will be taken, any tolls that have to be paid, where the rest stops are (if possible) and alternate roads you can take if you need to. Take your maps, and mark each route in a different color. That way if one route becomes closed to you, you can look at the minimum number of deviations required to get to the next.

Movers: Make sure you shop around, but also make sure you look at the "breakage" policy - can't make this clearer, things WILL get broken, or at least, are very likely to. If you don't know how to securely and safely pack boxes, leave it for the movers to do. You're paying them, so let them do the work. Same thing, don't help carrying stuff in and out, if you've got any amount of stuff you'll get sore and tired and you still have to move to your new house yourself. Sore muscles will not help you in the post move phase.

Hmm I'm sure there are more points, but that's a good start.

Six.


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RE: Logistics of moving - 3/26/2008 9:39:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Six, those are all very good suggestions. But - umm - Greedy is moving across an ocean. Doubtful she will be driving.[smile]

Actually - the garage sale and thrift shop donations are excellent ideas, no matter how far you're moving. Last time I moved I think I donated hundreds of dollars worth of stuff, including about 200 paperback books.

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RE: Logistics of moving - 3/26/2008 10:12:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh, well that is a lot easier then - if you're not intending to take furniture :D Of course, if you do take furniture, it'll take at least a month to get there by sea so either send it ahead or be prepared to do without for a while. Also consider how you're going to pick it up when it arrives.

Probably also want to consider what is required to furnish the place, whether you are bringing furniture with you or buying new. One of the biggest problems you can run into is an elevator that is just not big enough to fit your bed in, or stairs that are too tight to go around. Can happen for homes as well as apartments so keep that in mind.

Six.

Edited to change "a month" to "at least a month"


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RE: Logistics of moving - 3/26/2008 10:20:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Some of my books are definitely going with me... the ones I read over and over again.  Six, thanks for your suggestions..and yes, I *hate* moving... usually, but when I get it together for this move, I'll be too excited to hate it quite as much..LOL
Fortunately, I have plenty of time to sort through stuff, since I don't have a move date set :)

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RE: Logistics of moving - 3/26/2008 10:30:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Where and when are you moving, oh lil sparkly queen?

I am moving to the east coast (north of you a lil) at the end of April and just found a way to get mostly sorted through and packed in two weekends!!

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RE: Logistics of moving - 3/26/2008 10:33:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Acccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!! you're really moving closer to Mean Greenwich time!!!!

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RE: Logistics of moving - 3/26/2008 10:33:44 PM   
GreedyTop


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Status: offline 		WILD!!! *tacklefuck*  Hi honey!! Where ya moving to??
I'm going to the UK, not sure when....*SMOOCH*  Good to see you here, sexy!

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RE: Logistics of moving - 3/26/2008 11:22:08 PM   
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I am moving to NC!! At least for a year or two...

I was raised an AF brat.. we moved 17 days after I was born (aren't I lucky they waited? lol)  I have grown up moving every time the closets need cleaning out and for each of the last several moves, I've decreased my 'schtuff' by 30-40%.  Schtuff = good junk, not junk, not the really good stuff, but good junk. Its just schtuff... so our policy is put it in a box and date it - if you haven't opened it in 6 months, move it to the 12 month pile - at 12 months, don't open the box and then just let it go - other than artwork, collections, memories, and irreplaceable stuff - things you would grab if you had to evacuate for a fire, for example!

One trick for moving long distances is to keep a master list.. start with 1, label  a box with that number, and write down the highlights of what is in the box, number 2 on a list and a box, note the highlights etc. This way, no one is reading what is in a box  and aren't tempted to steal it based on the contents AND when you are looking for something, check the list and you know which box to look for.

For stateside moves, I have been using those large plastic sterlite bins with handles on each side. They stack when full, they collapse when empty, they keep bugs and water and vermin out. The don't get lopsided as much as boxes and I can lift, drag and carry them easier than a lot of boxes (handles) and if it's really heavy, two people can lift it without a strain. 

I currently have a 3 bedroom/2 bath house full of schtuff, with 6 ft oak desks, 5 ft credenza, an oak dining table... (solid wood stuff that I can't replace for what it would sell for) patio furniture, yard equipment, a hammock....you get the idea... tons of schtuff. The kidlet is out of the country til June 2009 (living out of two suitcases), but I have the beginnings of her first apartment when she gets back. I'm trying to downsize since I don't need as much schtuff for just me. And I'm a bit of a packrat. I will have a 3 bed/2 ba house on the other side, but I have 3 beds and will use the extra rooms when kidlet and mom are both visiting.

I found a company that will move very reasonably, they drive and pay gas, I pay by the footage. I get a 28 ft truck  to pack (8'x9') and after I pack, they put up a 'wall' and measure the number of feet ($160/ft). So cross country is costing less than $4000 for a 3 bedroom house.

This weekend, I have four college age kids coming to help me sort and pack and get ready for a moving/estate sale (the 40% commission pays for itself over having a yard sale in this situation). Next weekend, we finish 80-90% of the packing and I camp out in my house till the end of the month. I agree... for what you don't need, turn it into money. We pay SO much money for square footage to support stuff! But I'm going from 'cluttered' to 'spacey' in my attitude, so it must be my minimalist period!! lol If I can easily replace it on the other end and it has little sentimental value, bye bye!!

It's very freeing to give up schtuff, and when you start, you kinda get a high and look for more schtuff to release!!!  But then I'm old and tired of supporting a full house by myself - I don't need a lot of schtuff.

tacklesslurps  - are you coming to visit the Dark Angel before you go?

Wildy

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RE: Logistics of moving - 3/27/2008 6:25:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Good advice Wildy *smooch*  I hope so, we'll have to see what happens.. since I don't know WHEN I'm going across the pond, there's still time :)

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RE: Logistics of moving - 3/27/2008 6:09:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		The logistics of moving stuff is one thing, but then there is the logistics of moving to another county.  The stuff is the easy part, a pain in the ass but relatively easy.

Make sure all your immigration paperwork is in order and organized.  Depending on the personal belongings that you are bringing with you, make sure that you have the documentation to prove that it is yours and what it is worth.  This applies to things that have serial numbers, i.e. electronics, computers.  Have a certified copy of your driving record and insurance history.  Bring a copy of your medical files (and your cat's medical files).  Have all your financial records in order with copies with you.  Have sufficient funds to move and support yourself for at least 6 months.  Have letters of reference for current and past employers.  Have a method of obtaining any mail that goes to your old address.

These are the things that I needed to cross the border and start a life in Canada.  I am a very organized person and I had all my important documents that we needed to cross the border organized in a 3-ring binder inside plastic sheet covers.  The crossing could have taken several hours, but only took about 90 minutes.  It essentially only took the length of time for them to fill out the paperwork.  I think the big reason for that was because I was so organized.  The customs officer would ask a question and I just had to flip to that page in my binder to answer his question.  The customs officer was happy that I made things easier for him and said so. 

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RE: Logistics of moving - 3/27/2008 6:42:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've never moved out of the country, but I have moved cross-country. The last time I did so, I traveled by train and carried with me one week's worth of clothes including one really nice outfit, toothbrush and deodorant, makeup, curling iron, important papers (birth certificate, marriage licenses, divorce papers, address book), and medications that I was taking. I had 2 boxes of things such as family photos, jewelry, and some other clothes packed away and shipped to me by a friend after I arrived at my new home. I just took what was necessary and what could not be replaced... most things can be.

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RE: Logistics of moving - 3/27/2008 7:50:53 PM   
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The logistics of moving stuff is one thing, but then there is the logistics of moving to another county.  The stuff is the easy part, a pain in the ass but relatively easy.

Make sure all your immigration paperwork is in order and organized.  Depending on the personal belongings that you are bringing with you, make sure that you have the documentation to prove that it is yours and what it is worth.  This applies to things that have serial numbers, i.e. electronics, computers.  Have a certified copy of your driving record and insurance history.  Bring a copy of your medical files (and your cat's medical files).  Have all your financial records in order with copies with you.  Have sufficient funds to move and support yourself for at least 6 months.  Have letters of reference for current and past employers.  Have a method of obtaining any mail that goes to your old address.

These are the things that I needed to cross the border and start a life in Canada.  I am a very organized person and I had all my important documents that we needed to cross the border organized in a 3-ring binder inside plastic sheet covers.  The crossing could have taken several hours, but only took about 90 minutes.  It essentially only took the length of time for them to fill out the paperwork.  I think the big reason for that was because I was so organized.  The customs officer would ask a question and I just had to flip to that page in my binder to answer his question.  The customs officer was happy that I made things easier for him and said so. 

Knight's Kyra


ooh... brillaint advice, Kyra! *hug* thanks!  I hadn't thought of organizing papers like that (of course, I'm as disorganized as they come..LOL). 


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RE: Logistics of moving - 3/28/2008 2:35:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		anyone deal with moving pets...especially to the OP...cross the ocean?

I was talking to someone in NZ..and got to thinking on the logistics. I imagine I would do a storage unit. small one for books I love, clothes, sentimental stuff,  and furniture I couldnt get easily at the local box store.  (aka: my wrough iron bed, I love it! its getting kept). and then in a year or two..if things still worked well..pay a butt-load of money to get it shipped? or sell.

but Im echoing most..sell stuff you dont need/use in the past 3 months. I for example have boxes I never unpacked .. and Ive been at my apatment 10 months now. odds are..I wont need that stuff. craigslist, coworkers, local paper.

But also want to be certain...the situation you are moving for...is good. Visits are fine and dandy,but many things can change once cohabitation happens. Dont hawk everything and then in two months when it doesnt work - need to rebuy everything!

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RE: Logistics of moving - 3/28/2008 5:32:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		thx wideeyed!  I did check into moving the Girls.. just gotta be sure that they are up to date on all shots and have the papers (less than 30 days old) to prove it.. then no quarantine :)


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