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Maya2001 -> RE: those damn illegals (3/28/2008 2:48:37 PM)
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ORIGINAL: CalifChick
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ORIGINAL: SeeksOnlyOne
i am unaware of it, as are the attorneys helping the foster parents of the 2 oldest girls, and it seems that all of the other lawyers and judges involved are unaware of it also. the children stay here.......period. this has been going on since december, and every avenue of reason has been tried. that is why it is now in desperation mode, writing letters to editors etc.
It seems the desperation is NOT to take her children with her, but to let her stay here with them. Big difference. ICE's policy seems pretty clear on the subject. Or is something else going on? Has she been declared an unfit parent?
Cali
I would think the topic has not come up because the US has the right to Protect her citizens and in this case all 8 children, the reality is ...if she is allowed to take them with her to Mexico she would not be able to support them especially since she has no skills that would allow her to financially support those children.
Mexico is not the US ... just like Canada is not like the US --there is no way a single parent here with only one child can work at a minimum wage job here be able to put a roof over there heads, food on the table and clothes on there backs without a few hundred dollars in government aid ...it simply cannot be done. If I had not gotten hired on at an autoplant the concept of owning a house as a single mom would have been zilch, even with the job I could not qualify for a mortgage in my home town and I had not debts at the time though had an A+ credit rating , my income was not consider high enough even for a semi or condo , even though as a job it is consider very high paying, I was forced to look elsewhere where properties where lower priced found a bungalow that had been a rental for several years so kind of shabbly and run down and I just squeaked in to qualify , most single women unless they have extremely well paying careers will never own a home in Canada, and yet in the US I have seen a woman ended up working parttime as a short order cook buy a home here they would need a second job just to live in an apartment , it floors me to hear woman there buying homes when working jobs that here would pay less than half what I earn. So even compared to Canada there is a huge standard of living difference especially for those in the lower to mid income brackets
If this woman is sent back ...she is not going to qualify for any aid in Mexico as she has not lived there since she was 5 so possible 30 year or more absence , or medicare program, she will not have a home to go to or a job or a pantry stocked with food and no family to help her.... so there is no way in Hell will the US allow her to take those children because they are US citizens to allow them to go there would mean extreme hardship and suffering so it becomes their duty to protect them, so that is why lawyers and courts have not brought the topic up
If she had skills inorder to earn a decent wage, a family to take her in till she got on her feet , then and only then would there be reason to discuss but that is not the case... that is the reason the people involved in this case are saying if she goes back then the children would be put up for adoption as they know there is no way she would able to everr support and provide for them not alone as a single woman
Americans are truly spoiled by everything that is available to them that they have not inkling about the adversities that people face in other countries or the difference in standards of living ..... why the heck do you think the Mexicans are trying so desperately to come to the US even at the risk of their own lives???? Believe many had died in their attempts to cross the border into the US inorder to have a better lquality of life
The mexican workers that are hired for picking farm crops here earn way less than minimum wage but they are extremely greatful at getting selected to work here for a few months for them like winning the lottery and you will see them in the fall in the stores shopping for their families buying simple things like satiny underwear brief from Zellers not real pricey or exceptionally sexy for their wives and girlfriends which is comical to watch their excitement over being able to buy such a grand treat. ... not huge big ticket items to take back home with them, but those wages they earn those few months they work here in the fields will allow them to live well by their standards, yet people here cannot afford to take those same jobs because they will not earn enough to pay rent just for one person yet in Mexico the 4 months they work here will support a family for a year. If they are allow to come here for a few months and earn so money to take back home with them they are thrilled and will gladly so so but the problem is there is not enough opportunities for everyone there that severely needs employment. I recall a documentary film made in Mexico about how many families survived the husband if he could worked in fields wife may prostitute herself take in laundry or mending or help in the fields often the still could not afford to feed the family so instead of the children going to school they would be sent to the garbage dump to search for food scraps and things that they could possibly sell to tourists or others this was a necessity to help the family survive so the children never got their educations and the cycle would repeat itself ,,,of course if you are struggling with just the barest of necessities of life, you not going to be shopping for condoms , but the poverty also lends itself to population control as they cannot afford medicines so many of the children die of illness that are easily treated for next to nothing in the US. If you had watched that documentary you would understand the horror that this woman is going to face and why the US government will never allow her to take her children along, if she is very very lucky because of the publicity somebody who is well to do will take pity on her that is from the upper class in Mexico and will offer to take her in as a live in domestic servant, but I could not see them accepting 8 children as well and she is not going to recieve enough in earnings to support those children.
In my eyes what the US government is doing by deporting her is immensely cruel and inhumane, I can imagine the thousand of dollars that are being spent in the court case, support workers and providing foster families while the battle is going on, Instead that money and time could have been better used by providing an education to allow her to have a career that could provide a sustainable income to support her and her children in Mexico even if it meant helping her find a job and setting her up for a few months it would probably end up costing the US taxpayers far less than they are spending now in trying to deport by seperating the family and the long term care most of the kids will need for years to come because of the trauma that has been caused to them and I doubt highly the effects of this will create highly productive happy well educated taxpayers out of most those children... I am sure left alone to continue life as she has been it would end up costing the taxpayers far less in the long haul
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