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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 10:37:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		If I am not mistaken, (which I could be) but I think somewhere along the way some program I was watching made mention of the fact that traffic signs use certain colors and shapes so that those who dont speak a certain language can get the general idea of what they mean?

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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 10:38:32 PM   
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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 10:38:32 PM   
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4. LOTS of people who don't speak English are driving quite well so this has been proven by trial to be a non-issue.


Really? Because being hit by an illegal with no insurance is a fairly common problem around here. Apparently "STOP" isn't always clear enough.



and those who speak english as a first language NEVER run stop signs??


Never said that. Was just countering her point with a fact as it pertains to this area.

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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 10:40:16 PM   
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Never said that. Was just countering her point with a fact as it pertains to this area.



Didn't work very well. I've already established, and look me up if you want, that the stop sign is the only one to use that shape and color. Disregarding it's meaning has nothing to do with not being able to read the word, otherwise those who speak English would never run a stop sign.

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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 10:42:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		so you live in an area where there are a lot of traffic accidents.

I'd be curious to know just how many of those accidents actually had anything to do with "not knowing what stop" meant? How many are alcohol related? inattention? Yanno.. like what happens with the ENGLISH speaking population?

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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 10:42:35 PM   
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If I'm going to be assimilated anywhere, I vote Canada and fuck America. If I must become part of the Borg, at least I want the pot and gay marriage.


I 2nd that motion!

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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 10:47:15 PM   
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http://www.donotenter.com/cool/signs/germany/putzi1.htm

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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 10:48:47 PM   
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Totally OT, but what the hey:

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 DomKen: 

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I was thinking Indian from India. Athough, now that I think about it, I haven't had "offical" Native American foods - just what has made it into "American" food. Like popcorn!



You haven't? No corn? No tortillas? No squash? No roast potatoes? No raw tomatoes? No hot chocalate?

I think it far more likely you have no idea what foods the native americans had.


Actually DomKen, seeing as EVERY ONE of your supposed "native american" examples comes from Central or South America, and the context was clearly NORTH American native food, I suspect you don't have a clue either.

As for me?  I'm gonna join domahpet for some atoo (mutton stew) and fry bread.   Wash it all down with some deeh. 

MMMMmmmmm

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It was? That mention of popcorn must been my tired old eyes playing tricks. No wait I double checked it certainly is right there.

Funny how atoo has pototoes. squash and chilis in it. They're all from south and central america kind of disqualifies the dish by your standards.

Fry bread is made with European ingrediants and from what I've been told is only from the 1800's. By that sort of standard corn bread is definitely native food much less the tortilla which is definitely pre columbian.

BTW are you seriously claiming North American natives didn't grow corn or tomotoes or squash or potatoes?

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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 10:52:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ken, hence my comment about Navajo tacos being a hybrid. More European, really. White flour (gov't surplus in the 30s, they didn't know what the fuck to do with it so invented fry bread), cheese, ground beef, lettuce, & onions, IIRC (I can look in my cookbook). BTW, he disappeared, didn't he?

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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 11:18:17 PM   
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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 11:18:52 PM   
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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 11:25:18 PM   
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hey foods food, you want some or not

I'm in. I never turn down other people doing the cooking.

Although hold on, ...perving profile..., you're a sub who can cook? Want to get married? How about a torrid fling over some home cooked meals?*

*none of the above should be interpreted as dissatisfaction with my dear pet who while she lacks cooking skills does make up for it with other skills.

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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 11:25:52 PM   
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Ken, hence my comment about Navajo tacos being a hybrid. More European, really. White flour (gov't surplus in the 30s, they didn't know what the fuck to do with it so invented fry bread), cheese, ground beef, lettuce, & onions, IIRC (I can look in my cookbook). BTW, he disappeared, didn't he?



Hippie wins the prize!!!!!
unfortunetly the gov also handed out rancid lard to cook it with :(
it used to be cooked on flat rocks.
now it can be made lots of different ways.
i love making fry bread, once i made indian tacos
for 65 people- whew! what a messy job that was!

(ya i think so Hippie)

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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/27/2008 11:36:36 PM   
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I don't care WHERE the hell fry bread originated... I just WANT some...!!

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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/28/2008 12:03:29 AM   
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Ken, hence my comment about Navajo tacos being a hybrid. More European, really. White flour (gov't surplus in the 30s, they didn't know what the fuck to do with it so invented fry bread), cheese, ground beef, lettuce, & onions, IIRC (I can look in my cookbook). BTW, he disappeared, didn't he?



Hippie wins the prize!!!!!
unfortunetly the gov also handed out rancid lard to cook it with :(
it used to be cooked on flat rocks.
now it can be made lots of different ways.
i love making fry bread, once i made indian tacos
for 65 people- whew! what a messy job that was!

(ya i think so Hippie)
Man, that is one hell of a job. I used to have a "Mexican" restaurant. You should try making a hundred tamales. Damn, what an ordeal. Made my own Moles from scratch, and so on. Have a killer recipe for pumpkin seed salsa w/habaneros (Sik il p'ak)(used to sell quarts of it to people).

Anyway, I had my only Navajo taco on Second Mesa, Hopi nation. Just wasn't all that impressed. Needed some chiles, IMO.

I didn't mention 'em, 'cause I may be just about the only Gringo on CM that has had them, but Nopalitos. Opuntia sp. cactus paddles. Mex markets & Whole Foods has 'em. Taste sort of like green beans (habichuelas). Slimier than okra. A bitch to keep the green color, keep some crunch, and get rid of the slime. Best I ever had was in a salad in Teotitlan del Camino, Oaxaca state.



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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/28/2008 12:29:17 AM   
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Yes, but most that think that may not be sharp enough to be that observant.

Probably for the best, it would only confuse them.

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Ya'll better believe it.
 

It's y'all in Kentucky. Does the apostrophe fall farther south with geography?
 
K.
 

No. On a side note, I have had some try to tell me "y'all" is singular.


i have finally figured it all out...and perhaps how to explain it to those damned yankees who come to texas all confuzeled...

y'all is plural

ya'll is singular, the plural being all ya'll

btw...the apostrophe goes back to it's right place when you move further down south to the san antonio latitude...and we get yankees who come down here and try to be proper suth'ners and say "y'all - btw that's plural" and "do all ya'll...."  and we have to correct them, because we may be southern but we ain't all rednecks...lol....no offense to rednecks...that wifebeater sunburn sure is sexy...

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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/28/2008 12:45:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Chelle, I have lived in Richmond VA, Atlanta GA, and Houston TX for right around 37 years of my life, and I don't recall "y'all" being used as a singular pronoun construction. I, myself, say "you".

It's a contraction of you and all. There's no "a" in "you".  That's the basics as I understand them.

Not to say that some people in the South don't use "y'all" as a singular...  I just don't recall hearing it. To my ears, it sounds as silly as using "you guys" as a singular pronoun.

Here's how I use "all y'all" or "alla y'all":
"We're going to the park."
"Alla (all of) Y'all?" or "All y'all?"

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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/28/2008 4:53:08 AM   
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slaveboy4you:
There are adults who were born in this country who can't read or write,should we deport them?
Since there is no national language nor any legal requirement to speak English what is your justification for your position?
thompson


I never said they said they should be deported because they don't speak English.
That is why I asked you to justify your position to deport them.

I said they should be deported for comitting a violent felony,
This is not true. You said:
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The article doesn't say if these guys are illegal aliens, on visas, or citizens.  I doubt they are citizens, because who the hell is born here without learning English?  So why aren't they being deported?
   


which they did.

If they did commit a violent felony why were they not charged and convicted of such?  The article says they were convicted of conspiracy.

Level pointed out something I missed in that they are resident aliens.  Well, they are still aliens.  They decided to rob someone and used violence in the course of that robbery.  So why are they allowed to stay here? 
Because the judge in this case chose not to deport them.  I am sure you believe in the rule of law?  Or does the rule of law only apply when you agree with the outcome?

Pay attention next time thompsonx.
I was paying attention it appears that you were not.  Perhaps you might avail yourself of your own advice.



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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/28/2008 5:15:57 AM   
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Do I get a 'bigger say'? No. But I don't get a lesser one either. And I, for one, am sick of hearing the argument "They came here for a better life" only to find out that they are financing that "better life" back in mexico.
You seem to be saying that a person is not entitled to spend their money in any way that they see fit.  Would you be comfortable with someone telling you how you can spend your money?


And I think by teaching a child a non-english language first, you are setting them behind their peers and giving them a bad educational start,
Are you talking about William F Buckley?
His first formal training in language was Spanish.  I am sure we  are all aware of how he barely managed to "stumble" through the English language.  How was he ever able to publish all those books and the magazine too?  Then of course there was his stint in the CIA where one can only imagine the trouble he had using his ESL skills.

not to mention being totally against what I've already said about assimilating into the country they wanted so 'desperately' to be part of that they'd sneak in here illegally.
So do you feel that war is a completely legal way to acquire land?



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RE: Learn english or go to jail - 3/28/2008 5:21:02 AM   
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When you can speak several languages, they call you multi-lingual.

When you can speak two languages, they call you bilingual.

When you can only speak one language? "American."

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