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GreedyTop -> RE: Learn english or go to jail (3/28/2008 5:22:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bipolarber Great joke: When you can speak several languages, they call you multi-lingual. When you can speak two languages, they call you bilingual. When you can only speak one language? "American." LOLOL (sad, but so often true..)

thompsonx -> RE: Learn english or go to jail (3/28/2008 5:36:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou Yeah, they call us "norteamericanos", which is also kind of silly. Mexico is in North America, as is the entirety of Central America. slaveboy4you: Did you really say that?[8\|] thompson

thompsonx -> RE: Learn english or go to jail (3/28/2008 5:41:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Smith117 You're misinformed. Here, in the border states, the school districts are requiring it. Smith: Which states require the school district to teach Spanish? thompson

kittinSol -> RE: Learn english or go to jail (3/28/2008 5:44:46 AM)
I was raised in Europe, speaking French and English; and my son is being raised in those two languages. I only wish I knew Spanish well enough that I could teach him that language as well, but alas! I'm not as fluent as I used to be. My point is that it's very good for a child's education and development to learn more than one language from birth. Studies demonstrate this. Children are not confused by hearing more than one language. It's been known for a long time that bilingual children separate their language from the age of 2. Multilingual kids have it even better: imagine learning three, four, five languages from birth! How cool is that? quote: Not only is learning a foreign language easier for children than it is for adults, but children who are exposed to other languages also do better in school, score higher on standardized tests, are better problem solvers and are more open to diversity, says Francois Thibaut, who runs The Language Workshop for Children, which has nine schools around the East Coast. Thibaut is a pioneer in foreign languages for babies and children and is the author of Professor Toto, an award-winning home-based foreign-language curriculum for parents and children. http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2007-01-09-language-children_x.htm The reason why some people are up in arms over these men is because they know 'only' Spanish. Had they been fluent in 'only' English, nobody would have given a rat's ass. I wonder why that is? Many English only speakers are starting to feel left out because Spanish is fast becoming as widely spoken as English in the United States. And what's wrong with that, except that the monolingual people had better started to smell the coffee and enrolled for adult education classes? They'd better catch up: the world's moving on, whether they like it or not.

thompsonx -> RE: Learn english or go to jail (3/28/2008 6:00:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bipolarber Great joke: When you can speak several languages, they call you multi-lingual. When you can speak two languages, they call you bilingual. When you can only speak one language? "American." bipolarber: Those who have a clever tongue are called "cunninglinguists" [:D] thompson

subtee -> RE: Learn english or go to jail (3/28/2008 7:52:51 AM)
Hippie making me hungry

kittinSol -> RE: Learn english or go to jail (3/28/2008 7:56:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx Those who have a clever tongue are called "cunninglinguists" [:D] [sm=biggrin.gif]

kittinSol -> RE: Learn english or go to jail (3/28/2008 7:57:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subtee Hippie making me hungry Whoever snags Hippie is in for some serious gastronomical delights [8D] .

domahpet -> RE: Learn english or go to jail (3/28/2008 8:22:56 AM)
Attorneys for the men said they were studying the legality of the ruling and had not decided whether to appeal. One of the attorneys, Ferris Webby, suggested that the ruling was good for his client, Guzman-Mateo. "My client is happy," Webby said. "I think it's going to help him." The judge sentenced the four men to jail terms of four to 24 months. But he gave three of the men, who already had served at least four months, immediate parole. Reyes-Rosario remains imprisoned on an unrelated drug charge. Olszewski ordered the three to return with their parole officers in a year and take an English test. "If they don't pass, they're going in for the 24 (months)," he said. Olszewski is known for outside-the-box sentencing. He has ordered young defendants who are school dropouts to finish school. He often orders defendants to get full-time employment. But he also has his staff coordinate with an employment agency to help them find the job.

GreedyTop -> RE: Learn english or go to jail (3/28/2008 8:26:17 AM)
Sounds like an awesome judge (judicial system at it's best...) Don't just jail them.. do something to HELP them. (throws in a grope to Domah)

Lordandmaster -> RE: Learn english or go to jail (3/28/2008 8:29:12 AM)
Yeah, my prollem wiff all dis is that I ain't never found no one to lurn me proper English. quote: ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp i lived in Alabama for a few years, and if a good grasp on English could determine whether or not someone could be incarcerated...a whole lotta "good ol' boys" are going down!!!!

Hippiekinkster -> RE: Learn english or go to jail (3/28/2008 9:30:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subtee Hippie making me hungry Subtee making Hippie... [8D]

Hippiekinkster -> RE: Learn english or go to jail (3/28/2008 9:32:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol quote: ORIGINAL: subtee Hippie making me hungry Whoever snags Hippie is in for some serious gastronomical delights [8D] . I eat as well as I cook, too. [sm=applause.gif]

slaveboyforyou -> RE: Learn english or go to jail (3/28/2008 2:15:26 PM)
quote: That is why I asked you to justify your position to deport them. I don't have to justify anything to you. quote: This is not true. You said: I inferred it, and you know I did. If you want to use semantics, feel free. It was clear what I meant, and if it wasn't to you than that's your problem. quote: If they did commit a violent felony why were they not charged and convicted of such? The article says they were convicted of conspiracy. Yeah, conspiracy to commit robbery. It's still a felony. You do realize that is a deportable offense? quote: Because the judge in this case chose not to deport them. I am sure you believe in the rule of law? Or does the rule of law only apply when you agree with the outcome? The judge doesn't have the power to deport anyone. But INS does, and they should deport any aliens that are commiting felonies. quote: I was paying attention it appears that you were not. Perhaps you might avail yourself of your own advice. No you weren't. You are just trying to be right when you are so wrong.

slaveboyforyou -> RE: Learn english or go to jail (3/28/2008 2:19:28 PM)
quote: quote: ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou Yeah, they call us "norteamericanos", which is also kind of silly. Mexico is in North America, as is the entirety of Central America. slaveboy4you: Did you really say that?[8\|] thompson I sure did, and I am correct. It's how you're told to identify yourself in Spanish language courses. It's something I refuse to do when I use my limited Spanish. The use of "American" for residents of the United States holds a historical precedence. We were the first nation independent of European rule, and we were the only ones to include the word in our title. That's just the way it is, and it's tough shitsky for those that don't like it.

Smith117 -> RE: Learn english or go to jail (3/28/2008 3:24:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AquaticSub quote: ORIGINAL: Smith117 Never said that. Was just countering her point with a fact as it pertains to this area. Didn't work very well. I've already established, and look me up if you want, that the stop sign is the only one to use that shape and color. Disregarding it's meaning has nothing to do with not being able to read the word, otherwise those who speak English would never run a stop sign. It's not so much the accident itself that bugs me. It's the aftermath. If you're here illegally, you're driving illegally and you have no legal insurance. Which means any minor or severe accident that occurs totally screws the nice law-abiding person you hit.

Smith117 -> RE: Learn english or go to jail (3/28/2008 3:26:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bipolarber Great joke: When you can speak several languages, they call you multi-lingual. When you can speak two languages, they call you bilingual. When you can only speak one language? "American." And what other language do the mexicans speak? Poor joke.

Smith117 -> RE: Learn english or go to jail (3/28/2008 3:28:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx Smith: Which states require the school district to teach Spanish? thompson I live in Texas. I'm sure the neighboring states are similar, but don't know for sure.

Smith117 -> RE: Learn english or go to jail (3/28/2008 3:32:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol The reason why some people are up in arms over these men is because they know 'only' Spanish. Had they been fluent in 'only' English, nobody would have given a rat's ass. I wonder why that is? Simple. Because if they spoke english, they wouldn't need a translator or any other tax-funded services intended to hold their hand and help them 'get by' without speaking the common language. Many of us believe that there 'should' be an official "english" language here, regardless of whether it will pass or not. Many are just sick and tired of doing to an ATM or hearing a recording on the phone saying "press 1 for english." quote: ORIGINAL: kittinSol Many English only speakers are starting to feel left out because Spanish is fast becoming as widely spoken as English in the United States. And what's wrong with that, except that the monolingual people had better started to smell the coffee and enrolled for adult education classes? They'd better catch up: the world's moving on, whether they like it or not. I'd love to learn another language. But I will choose that language. It will not be chosen for me.

Smith117 -> RE: Learn english or go to jail (3/28/2008 3:40:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou I sure did, and I am correct. It's how you're told to identify yourself in Spanish language courses. It's something I refuse to do when I use my limited Spanish. The use of "American" for residents of the United States holds a historical precedence. We were the first nation independent of European rule, and we were the only ones to include the word in our title. That's just the way it is, and it's tough shitsky for those that don't like it. [sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif]

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