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Phobia of watersports - 3/28/2008 12:40:33 AM

saradeanna469

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I was wondering if I were the only submissive out there who is actually phobic about pissplay. It is listed as a hard limit for me and I rank it as 97% as bad as scat play. It is my belief that bodily waste is for the toilet only. I haven't yet come across a thread where anyone refuses to participate in that sort of thing or is completely grossed out by it. Pretty much every Dom/me profile I've read lists it as a like or love and a few bios even make mention of it. This has caused me to not pursue some great matches I've had with prospective owners. Also, seeing how many people actually like it has made me fearful of those who make no mention of it at all. I do not want to get into a situation where someone decides to ignore my hard limits. Strangely, knife play and blood play don't really bother me. Does anyone out there feel like I do?

(FTR, I don't really think phobic is the right word for what my deal is, but I couldn't think of a more appropriate word)

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RE: Phobia of watersports - 3/28/2008 1:47:00 AM

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For starters, having a phobia is to have a fear of something. Doesn't sound like you're quite at that point but "grossed out" is hard to misinterpret....

While I'm not submissive, I can certainly relate! I also believe the best place to direct human waste is straight into the toilet bowl and flush.... And yes, the prospect of me pissing (or worse) on my girl grosses me out, too - so it's never happened and never will...!

Everybody has different needs.... What you do is stick to your limits and seek out those who are compatible with you. Me, well I'm not into drawing blood, either; and all are mentioned in my profile - which you logically musn't have read.... *sniff* - and lol

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RE: Phobia of watersports - 3/28/2008 2:06:09 AM

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There was a thread a while back about spitting into a submissive's mouth and that pretty much grossed me out although i don't even know why. The whole thought of someone hawking a luggie down my throat sounds totally gross. At the same time, what would be the harm, especially in a body-fluid bonded relationship? i can't see any harm at all yet it sounds just plain nasty.

i felt the same about watersports until i tried it. my introduction was really mild, in the shower with the shower running so that the urine was being washed away almost at the same time as i was being drenched with it. i discovered a very weird thing, it felt very intimate. Hard for me to describe but intimate is the only word i can think of.

Not trying to get you to change you perception, i do understand your perception. Just commenting on how perceptions change depending upon circumstances.

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RE: Phobia of watersports - 3/28/2008 3:16:27 AM

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It's a popular kink, but not all of us like it. Keep looking. Actually, if they only list it as a like and they don't talk about it in their profile, why not ask how important the kink is to a relationship. You'll find some who are willing to leave it.

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RE: Phobia of watersports - 3/28/2008 3:35:40 AM

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ahhh...ye olde dislike of watersports. i'll be needing your license for the right to practice submission sweetie. Seeing as how you are neither "weal" or "twue"...FOR SHAME!!!!
Actually...we all have things that gross us out, and the right to fully not participate in those things we find utterly distasteful. You're not alone in those thoughts concerning pissplay. You may however be surprised,as you test boundaries etc. or you may NEVER get into it, and that's perfectly fine...myself, i used to be in your club, but now, from time to time it's like,
"Madge, i'm soaking in it!!"
please don't judge me until you've walked a mile in my piss soaked shoes....

LOL

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RE: Phobia of watersports - 3/28/2008 4:31:48 AM

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love golden showers from my mistress ...very erotic and intimate thing to share and yes i do swallow as much as i can

try it you might like it ...have fun ..mal

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RE: Phobia of watersports - 3/28/2008 4:33:07 AM

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It's not something we do either, although I have said that I think if he really wanted to, I might be able to handle it happening while in a hot shower. Luckily he hasn't taken me up on it. But drinking it will never happen. However unless they rhapsodize about it, why not just ask? Worst thing they can say is yes, they do insist on it in a relationship. Best is that they don't much care if they do it or not.

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RE: Phobia of watersports - 3/28/2008 4:45:42 AM

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Watersports was never anything I ever gave a second thought to until I was with someone who was into it. The way he mentally introduced me to it made it seem appealing and not gross. By the time we actually started doing it he had me begging for it and I found it to be highly erotic. It's now one of my most favorite things to do. I'm getting a bit excited just thinking about it.

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RE: Phobia of watersports - 3/28/2008 4:57:48 AM

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Mmmm do people getting pissed on ever get pissed off.

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RE: Phobia of watersports - 3/28/2008 5:15:55 AM

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Don't knock it until you try it! As she stated it can be very erotic. Those who participate in it find it so.

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RE: Phobia of watersports - 3/28/2008 5:23:12 AM

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Obviously you haven't met up with the right Dom/me who can lead you to try out new experiences. It doesn't mean the first time you will be drenched from head to foot, it may never happen. Perhaps you will just put your hands under the warm golden stream, and feel it's warmth, soap was invented a long time ago, so there is no harm in that. Then progress slowly, but always be open minded about any new activity. Try it before you toss it away, you just may end up loving it! If it means anything, when I was new I also had an aversion to watersports, but there are many forms of it and I find it extremely erotic now. Keep an open mind.

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RE: Phobia of watersports - 3/28/2008 5:40:29 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp

ahhh...ye olde dislike of watersports. i'll be needing your license for the right to practice submission sweetie. Seeing as how you are neither "weal" or "twue"...FOR SHAME!!!!
Actually...we all have things that gross us out, and the right to fully not participate in those things we find utterly distasteful. You're not alone in those thoughts concerning pissplay. You may however be surprised,as you test boundaries etc. or you may NEVER get into it, and that's perfectly fine...myself, i used to be in your club, but now, from time to time it's like,
"Madge, i'm soaking in it!!"
please don't judge me until you've walked a mile in my piss soaked shoes....LOL

*snicker*

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RE: Phobia of watersports - 3/28/2008 5:49:32 AM

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I see that there are a couple who've posted that have the "just do it" attitude. Personally I don't think that sucking up and doing it while it's still distasteful in your mind will work with this particular activity. I think that someone can present it to you in a way that changes your paradigm, but so long as you are mentally opposed to it, you will hate it and while you may find yourself in a possition that pleasing someone else overrides your gross out factor, it will still be disgusting.

I know that my mental shift came when someone explained to me that he saw it as marking his territory and I found that palitable. Now it's a non issue regardless of my mind set, but I am no longer opposed if it was a desire of his.

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RE: Phobia of watersports - 3/28/2008 6:15:47 AM

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We got started doing watersports when I casually mentioned something about it when we were driving back to His house after a play party. He lives in the somewhat secluded country and He told me to pull over and stop the car just before we got to His driveway. I didn't know what He was planning on doing, but I was getting excited.

He had me kneel in the street and He peed on me and in my mouth. I swallowed as much as I could and was surprised that the taste wasn't strong at all. There was just too much of it for me to swallow it all! LOL! This was the first time for both of us.

He has since had me strip outside and kneel while He drenched me in His urine. I've drank it in the shower and on His front steps.

He said He likes marking me as His territory and I go into a lovely headspace.

He did get it up my nose once and I couldn't stop laughing....

He also spits in my mouth. It's just saliva, not anything from deep in His chest, which would be gross. It's hot when He does this as well.

Anyway, I'm not trying to talk you out of your limits, BUT, I would say to always keep an open mind about expanding your horizons. Some things aren't as bad as we imagine them to be...... and some are downright HOT!

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RE: Phobia of watersports - 3/28/2008 8:05:06 AM

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I'm with those who are squicked about it. I know what mine smells like (I'm on several medications that affect my liquid waste), and I certainly wouldn't want to be inundated with that. Besides, to me there is a whole other area of health issues that I don't care to compromise by introducing onto or into my body something that someone else's body has considered something it didn't want.

Besides, to me it is the ultimate of disdainful treatment - I think so little of you I'll just piss on you. And that is not the kind of treatment I would like from someone I love. Yes, he can flog and whip me and torture my nipples and call me names, but to do something I think of as demeaning would be crossing a line I would be hard-put to forgive.

The thing is, I see the posts here that say how fun and wonderful people find it. Each of us has certain perceptions of activities, and there are so many activities in the kinky life, that each one's favorites are someone else's gross-outs or phobias. It's a wonderfully diverse world!

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RE: Phobia of watersports - 3/28/2008 8:40:42 AM

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I am not knocking anyone who likes/loves it , but to me that is gross. It is a hard limit for me, and as Master feels the same way works out good.

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RE: Phobia of watersports - 3/28/2008 9:11:45 AM

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Thanks to you all. My biggest concern regarding watersports isn't meeting up with someone who will consentually try to push my limits and expand them. What I am most afraid of is someone who appears to care about my limits until I amm completely immobilized and then pretends that I have no limits. I know there is someone on CM who would do this, but your comments have made me feel better that I might not ever run across that type of person.

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RE: Phobia of watersports - 3/28/2008 10:05:51 AM

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A Dom can have experience in a lot of areas as they learn to adapt to the sub they are with, some subs will have specific things the want to try as a result the Dom as long it is not one of their hard limits will try to accomodate that sub, so possible for them to gain experiences in a lot of areas, it does not mean that everything they have learned and experienced they want to do with the sub they are currently with instead most adapt to the subs they are with, often they will want to first know your absolute hard limits things that you absolutely will not do that gives them an idea his main interested and yours are compatible as there will be certain activities that will be must haves for him to be happy and other activities he is quite willing to give up if the right sub comes around not all his listed activies are a must do. Then he may want to know what are your soft limits .... things that scare/squick you right now but may be willing to try down the road somewhere---these are the limits that they try to push as they feel you are ready, pushing limits is something most willing do carefully and gradually build into so as not to scare their sub off or overwhelm them to much to end up breaking the trust

Sort of like in a vanilla relationships take for example ... you may enjoy horsebacking riding but it is not in your high priority list of activities so if you met a man that is terrified of horses, it would not be a deal breaker to you, but lets say you own and raise show dogs ... if a man is interested in you but does not like or is scared of dogs then in this situation it becomes a real deal breaker, the next man that comes around ... has never owned a dog ... he does not hate them and not sure if he likes them though but has watch dog shows and finds that the judging aspect is interesting, so you may decide that you have enough of an interest in him to give the relationship a try and see how it goes

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RE: Phobia of watersports - 3/28/2008 10:21:44 AM

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HoneyMaster and I don't indulge. It's just not something that we're interested in. I am glad though, that He isn't.

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RE: Phobia of watersports - 3/28/2008 3:22:48 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: saradeanna469

Thanks to you all. My biggest concern regarding watersports isn't meeting up with someone who will consentually try to push my limits and expand them. What I am most afraid of is someone who appears to care about my limits until I amm completely immobilized and then pretends that I have no limits. I know there is someone on CM who would do this, but your comments have made me feel better that I might not ever run across that type of person.

hmmm...i wouldn't recommend being totally immobilized with someone i couldn't trust...but that's another issue.

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