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RE: Dealing with wannabe Doms and their "switches&... - 4/1/2008 3:38:11 PM   
EbonyPhoenix68


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Missokyst

The ones that are allowed to do the things they do, do so because someone will allow it.
There is a sucker born every minute and unfortuantely too much is tainted by the drama they willingly participate in. 
I wonder when people will get some sense.
Kyst
quote:

ORIGINAL: EbonyPhoenix68
 it made me wonder how many of them are allowed to get away with the things they do.



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RE: Dealing with wannabe Doms and their "switches&... - 4/1/2008 6:34:05 PM   
BRNaughtyAngel


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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

They aren't mutes by any chance, are they?


  Hahahahahaha, I choked on my popcorn while having a thread flashback! 



Thanks Aileen.....    

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RE: Dealing with wannabe Doms and their "switches&... - 4/2/2008 9:43:58 AM   
domahpet


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Status: offline 		hello, this is officer domah of the csi.

your journal says it was in fact yourself, and not a friend,
that 'helped with this training'.

id like to ask, was this person under your mentorship when you gave him over to this couple?
or were you her dom?
and how long did you actually know this couple?
what id like to know is how do you feel about what you did after
you found out these people were in fact "Nothing more than a couple of psychos?"
what did you do to help the slave when you found out the situation was bad?

sounds like youre just butthurt because you gave your slave away. they didnt want to share and you
didnt want to submit with her and join their family.

in the first half of your post, you speak of this slave as a she, then later as a he (is the he you?).

and finally, how does it 'make you wonder', when you are in fact the very person that enabled it
in the first place?

would you like to call your lawyer bafore you answer? heres a quarter.



still waiting for the OP to shed some true light

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RE: Dealing with wannabe Doms and their "switches&... - 4/2/2008 3:35:04 PM   
EbonyPhoenix68


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RE: Dealing with wannabe Doms and their "switches&... - 4/2/2008 7:54:50 PM   
domahpet


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Status: offline 		thank you for your oh so charming and well written note on the other side EP68.
you evasivness to the question on goes to prove that you were in fact more involved
than you care to share here on the boards.
i wonder how many people read your journal entry other than me?
as far as respect goes, i dont owe any to anyone outside of my family.
as far as my opinion goes, these are open boards, only the mods can tell me what
to do here.
be well and good luck

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RE: Dealing with wannabe Doms and their "switches&... - 4/3/2008 12:19:36 PM   
LadyHugs


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Status: offline 		Dear EbonyPhoenix68, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
I have stated what I feel often -- that is, you teach people how to treat you. 
 
There will always be dishonesty in the world and in the BDSM community--there is no exclusion I am afraid.  Respect is earned and easily lost.
 
All things must be 'correct' for your personal standards.  Not mine.  If I were in the situation, I would be someone who would bar them from any activities I hold and or am in control of--even on a convention level.
 
Unfortunately, BDSM opens the doors to pals and predators alike.  So, one has to make adult choices and hopefully know what consequences lay ahead once choices are made.  That said, no matter how 'enslaved' one may be -- you are free to 'walk' --get away, get into a safe house and or other sheltering.
 
Just some thoughts.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

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RE: Dealing with wannabe Doms and their "switches&... - 4/3/2008 12:40:00 PM   
Floggings4You


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ORIGINAL: EbonyPhoenix68
--unaware that their intentions for her were dishonest in that once she arrived to them, they took control of her money, restricted her from contacting any of her friends on the internet or by phone as well as keeping her from going outside of my friend's home--


The above is not what I would call 'dishonest'.  The above is an almost textbook description of "abuse".

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RE: Dealing with wannabe Doms and their "switches&... - 4/3/2008 1:06:36 PM   
SirWAX


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Status: offline 		Hmmm, i thought this topic was about something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, maybe someone can clear this up for me but what does this situation have to do with 'wannabe doms and their 'switches''

Maybe this topic title could be edited because others, myself included, might come here for advice that makes no sense whatsoever to the topic title, respectfully IMO.

Or, maybe somebody can explain to me what this has to do with 'doms' that 'switch' because they're 'wannabes', this is how i interpret this title as. Thanks in advance.

Sincerely,
SirWaxaLot

Edit: missed a word

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RE: Dealing with wannabe Doms and their "switches&... - 4/3/2008 1:46:10 PM   
domahpet


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Status: offline 		if you read the op about three times, very slowly,
then read the ops journal (if its still there)
it will all become clear.
just sayin'...

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RE: Dealing with wannabe Doms and their "switches&... - 4/3/2008 5:41:28 PM   
EbonyPhoenix68


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHugs

Dear EbonyPhoenix68, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
I have stated what I feel often -- that is, you teach people how to treat you. 
 
There will always be dishonesty in the world and in the BDSM community--there is no exclusion I am afraid.  Respect is earned and easily lost.
 
All things must be 'correct' for your personal standards.  Not mine.  If I were in the situation, I would be someone who would bar them from any activities I hold and or am in control of--even on a convention level.
 
Unfortunately, BDSM opens the doors to pals and predators alike.  So, one has to make adult choices and hopefully know what consequences lay ahead once choices are made.  That said, no matter how 'enslaved' one may be -- you are free to 'walk' --get away, get into a safe house and or other sheltering.
 
Just some thoughts.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs
On these points, I concur. If only some of the other posters who have commented would have gotten it.....

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RE: Dealing with wannabe Doms and their "switches&... - 4/3/2008 5:55:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: domahpet

if you read the op about three times, very slowly,
then read the ops journal (if its still there)
it will all become clear.
just sayin'...


Yup.
Now...like vapor...I'm outta here...

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RE: Dealing with wannabe Doms and their "switches&... - 4/3/2008 6:25:52 PM   
ProfJoe


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Assuming the OP is for real and not a joke or a troll, which is a big assumption, then: No, I don't think he did the right thing.

Isn't it clear that by walking away and "ignoring" the situation he has made himself an accomplice to kidnapping?

ProfJoe

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RE: Dealing with wannabe Doms and their "switches&... - 4/3/2008 7:00:42 PM   
domahpet


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quote:

There will always be dishonesty in the world and in the BDSM community--there is no exclusion I am afraid.

quote:

Unfortunately, BDSM opens the doors to pals and predators alike
 
quote:

Isn't it clear that by walking away and "ignoring" the situation he has made himself an accomplice to kidnapping?

 
excellent points all around!!!



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RE: Dealing with wannabe Doms and their "switches&... - 4/4/2008 6:31:00 AM   
BlackPhx


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But you are right ProfJoe a case could be made for False Imprisonment and Abuse if not for kidnapping. As for the OP depending on his location the Good Samaritan law may apply or accomplice after the fact.

poenkitten

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RE: Dealing with wannabe Doms and their "switches&... - 4/4/2008 7:02:58 AM   
domahpet


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Status: offline 		i guess changing his journal entry to match his forum post didnt feel like enough cover for him.
im sure he'll be back, if he isnt already.

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RE: Dealing with wannabe Doms and their "switches&... - 4/4/2008 9:29:49 AM   
SteelofUtah


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quote:

ORIGINAL: EbonyPhoenix68

I gave some thought to a conversation I had with a fellow Dominant about wannabe Doms and their switches and after what he told me,  it made me wonder how many of them are allowed to get away with the things they do. Case in point: My friend was asked by a Dom and his switch to help them train a slave for their household, unaware that their intentions for her were dishonest in that once she arrived to them, they took control of her money, restricted her from contacting any of her friends on the internet or by phone as well as keeping her from going outside of my friend's home, claiming that it was for his protection as well as hers. What's even more disturbing is this couple also restricted her from any sexual contact whatsoever as well as not being allowed to scene with my friend, claiming that it was part of her training in terms of detoxing some of her alleged past behavior from her previous owners. After a he had a conversation with the switch, which degraded not only some of his friends as well as boasting about her own BDSM group, he decided that this situation was not beneficial to him nor the slave, given that they offered to mentor him (which was not needed as he already had one) as well as a position in their house as  a "major domo" which would have meant giving up his own life to live in their dungeon with the same restrictions. He also learned that this same couple doesn't practice safe, sane and consensual play as far as using safewords to say nothing of having no compassion nor love for anyone but themselves.
 
After listening to this story, I felt that were I in the same position, I would have done as he did by disassociating from them based on their negative actions, behavior and character. Even more so, I'd advise him to be very careful of who he gets mixed up with if their intentions are dishonorable. With all this in mind, what's your take on this situation?



Okay I had to shrink your original post a little.

Now the actions of the Dom/Switch couple were Monsterous! That is without question.

I am concerned though that the sub stayed with them as long as he did being offered "Major domo" under the conditions you related. I am curious as to how he could have gotten INTO such a situation and STAYED in the situation when it was apparently eventually easy to leave the situation.

I am not saying thay the behavior of the couple was exagerated BUT I have to ask the question, How much of it was actually how it happned and not how it was Interpereted.

I have heard MANY horror stories and I have learned there are Three sides to every story, "Your's, Mine, and the TRUTH" and the Three Rarely look or sound the same.

I think casting all the balme on the couple is a little off because in this country slavery is illegal so all he had to do was say "NO" and pick up the Phone and dial 3 numbers if they refused.

Steel

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RE: Dealing with wannabe Doms and their "switches&... - 4/4/2008 12:25:42 PM   
angelikaJ


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ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressVnus

Did you really type that like that?

The spacebar on her keyboard is broken and she hasn't gotten a replacement yet...lol


Thanks...all fixed now.

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RE: Dealing with wannabe Doms and their "switches&... - 4/4/2008 2:24:40 PM   
lalbobbilynn


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ORIGINAL: BlackPhx

Profile not found when I clicked on it. Hmmm

poenkitten

Indeed ........ profile seems to simply be gone ....... imagine that!!!

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RE: Dealing with wannabe Doms and their "switches&... - 4/4/2008 3:39:24 PM   
EbonyPhoenix68


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Status: offline 		Not really. Sorry to disappoint you, but I am still here. Unfortunately, this topic will not be after reading some extremely NEGATIVE comments from several of you. Ergo, this topic will vanish. Thanks to all who posted positive feedback, but those who did not, so long, haters!

< Message edited by EbonyPhoenix68 -- 4/4/2008 3:42:18 PM >

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RE: Dealing with wannabe Doms and their "switches&... - 4/4/2008 4:34:06 PM   
SteelofUtah


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Status: offline 		Wait Wait.

Do you think you have the power to make this Thread go away???

No Only a MOD can do that.

Look just because you don't like what has been said doesn't make this thread any less pertinent. This thread will be Archived like all other threads.

I understand you don't like that you got caught in a BOLD Lie or Manipulation of the truth, But that still does not change the advice and view offered by other people, even those you did not like as having merit and being worthy to someone else.

Posts are not supposed to be self serving they are to offer info to a subject someone else looking for information on this subject will be met with this thread LONG after you are gone.

To believe that your words will be lost or deleted because you don't like the look you got from them is a silly thought indeed.

I really hope you learned something from this.

Steel

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