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Master & Mistress! - 4/2/2008 3:54:40 PM   
ChemistryMaster1


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Like I said I am still in the learning process, so don’t shoot me yet.

Here is 3 questions:

Isn’t it odd for a Mistress to submit to Master and accept being his one submissive??
How long do you think this will last? and What would be the name of that lifestyle?

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RE: Master & Mistress! - 4/2/2008 3:58:12 PM   
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RE: Master & Mistress! - 4/2/2008 4:01:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: HerLord

yes
not long
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Yup

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RE: Master & Mistress! - 4/2/2008 4:01:42 PM   
PsyVamp


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Status: offline 		Isn't any odder than other things people do.
As long as the two of them work at the relationship.
Whatever you want to call it.

Elaboration.  I know plenty of switches who are dominant to some and submissive to others - they don't have a problem with it.

There is room for any type of dynamic you can dream up.

And no, I don't submit to any dominant. 

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RE: Master & Mistress! - 4/2/2008 4:03:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		A person who can be in one role with one person and another role with another person (or different roles at different times) is called a switch.

I suspect they are the most common BDSM orientation out there in meatlife.

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RE: Master & Mistress! - 4/2/2008 4:05:09 PM   
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personally .. whatever someone calls themselves .,. in reality its the chemistry that emerges between two people. Some might bring out the submissive, some the Dominant, if that emerging side is something you wish to explore ... explore it. IUf this Mistress feels submissive to that Master .. and wants to be his submissive ...more power to the both of them.

If you're learning ... learn that the label on the box is unimportant in the grand scheme of things ... its whats in the fucking box that counts.

I had that opinion pissed into me by the way

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RE: Master & Mistress! - 4/2/2008 4:06:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		A female switch could be submissive to her Master.  She could also own submissives or slaves of her own and would be their Mistress.  It can last for one session, or for 50 years depending on if the dynamic satisfies those involved.  It would be a poly type relationship.  If you want to learn more about poly, then please read the posts in the Polyamorous Lifestyle section. 

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RE: Master & Mistress! - 4/2/2008 4:08:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Not odd at all.

Many years ago I Owned a switch.... she asked for and got permission to have a pet of her Own (allowing her to be able to express the other, switch side to her nature). To Me she was only ever sub, to her pet she was only ever Dominant. she was his Mistress but was also My sub. A situation not as uncommon as some might like to think.

How long can it last? How long can any relationship work? For as long as it works for those involved.

As for name... Fred?... it is just another D/s varient.... get over it!


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RE: Master & Mistress! - 4/2/2008 4:10:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		What Jag said.

In answer to your questions specifically, I'd say it's somewhat unusual, but not "odd"...

Survivability depends on the people in question... I kept a nominally dominant pet for about five years.  Sometimes it was like two sharks in too small a tank, but we worked exceptionally well together when we weren't shredding one another, and remain dear friends.

And the term I'd use is she's actually a switch... Or at least switchy.  Or perhaps she's situationally or conditionally dominant. Or she could be topping from the bottom.  Or it's a function of their personalities in combination... The dynamics are just far, far too complex for simple labels and terminology.

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RE: Master & Mistress! - 4/2/2008 4:11:29 PM   
HerLord


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Status: offline 		His post said mistress. So I took it to mean NOT switch.
I also thought about saying "about as long as your other "marriages"
Is "over before it begins" any better

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RE: Master & Mistress! - 4/2/2008 4:29:51 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: HerLord

His post said mistress. So I took it to mean NOT switch.


A 'mistress' who submits.... is a switch... whichever way you look at it, even if only to that one Dom.


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RE: Master & Mistress! - 4/2/2008 4:41:55 PM   
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A 'mistress' who submits.... is a switch... whichever way you look at it, even if only to that one Dom.



Yes. 

And there is no shame in being a switch.  I have 3 friends who are switches, and my pet is a switch.
(and yes, it is a bit like two large predators at times...lol)


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RE: Master & Mistress! - 4/2/2008 4:44:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		For my part, a woman who says she's a Mistress doesn't necessarily suggest she can't be a switch.  What is a switch, anyway?  Someone who bottoms three days a week, and tops four?  An owned slave who tops once a year?  What about an alpha slave?

Switch is a catchall that usually describes people who enjoys both topping and bottoming.  They tend to defy D/s designators (as opposed to Master/Mistress/slave where topping and bottom aren't necessarily even part of the relationship.)

When I own a slave, she calls me Master.  If I give her the ok to, in the time she's allotted, own another slave, that slave would probably call her Mistress.  I don't think that dynamic is likely to come about; more likely, I would (and have had) a submissive call me Sir, and the slave referred to both of us as Master and Mistress (though Mistress, in this case, was more of a courtesy title; the submissive had no real ownership of my slave.)

So, 1) no, it's not odd.  2) it'll last as long as teh folks involved can keep it lasting.  That might be a day, or ten years; it really depends on if the people are wired for a poly relationship.  3) Poly comes to mind.

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RE: Master & Mistress! - 4/2/2008 4:45:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		then again, define submits? because we will readily accept that one person's submissive is another person's slave, and a person can bottom without being a submissive or a slave,  and you can do everything that we do and be vanilla and all these things....

why does an action equate a role?

i know a Mistress that is a Mistress, she does not switch roles at any time, yet she will submit to her husband (who is a Master)'s will in a biblical manner...not because she is being submissive or being a slave, but because that is what she believes a wife should do...they do not engage in bdsm play with eachother, but she submits to his will...and they have been together for 15+ years, and actively poly for most of it...if they were to put a label on it, it would be MaleDom/FemaleDom Poly Couple and Family...

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RE: Master & Mistress! - 4/2/2008 4:46:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ChemistryMaster1


Isn’t it odd for a Mistress to submit to Master and accept being his one submissive??
How long do you think this will last? and What would be the name of that lifestyle?


No. Unusual perhaps but I wouldn't consider it odd. An otherwise heterosexual person may find one or even a few people of the same sex attractive throughout their lives. Unusual but not odd. I think they've got the same chance as any other couple and that they don't need a special name for their relationship or lifestyle.

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RE: Master & Mistress! - 4/2/2008 4:47:32 PM   
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Depends on their relationship skills.
Dom/switch

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RE: Master & Mistress! - 4/2/2008 4:53:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ChemistryMaster1
Isn’t it odd for a Mistress to submit to Master and accept being his one submissive??

Depends on the person, it's not terribly common, but certainly not unheard of.
quote:


How long do you think this will last? and What would be the name of that lifestyle?

Who knows and likely "Ms" or "authority transfer based"

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RE: Master & Mistress! - 4/2/2008 5:16:49 PM   
LadyPaige


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Status: offline 		I agree that it really comes down to chemistry.  For some people it's rare to meet anyone who actually makes you want to submit.  You can spend your lifetime thinking you're totally dominant then whamo.  And the relationship will last as long as any other.... days, weeks, months, years or a lifetime.  Also, if that Mistress is not very experienced, it could be a good way of gaining experience.

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RE: Master & Mistress! - 4/2/2008 5:19:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		how about a Dominant submitting to a submissive? my pet is Dominant over others yet submissive to me

how long will it last? who knows

what's the name of this D/s relationship? well we're not into labels ...doesn't matter to us what you think of us


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RE: Master & Mistress! - 4/2/2008 6:22:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		there is no set dynamic in bdsm and D/s until is agreed by those involved .
lubing up a monkey hog tie'n a subbie and say get the monkey may not be my bdsm but could be your s .
In the end if your  particular dynamic that you have worked out  is working for you both  or your poly family and all are happy  , KEWL !!

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