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MistressVnus -> Self-Bondage and Domination (4/4/2008 9:06:24 AM)

This thread was inspired by another post and I thought, wow, what a great topic.  And, one I don't think I've seen addressed here since my participation began, at least.

Over the years I have run into those who inudlge themselves with things like self-flaggelation, paddling, anal play, cbt, nt, and various other things that one is capable of doing to one's self.  I don't see much danger in these types of self-play as long you have some of the basic safety issues understood.

However, when it comes to self-bondage, it scares the heck out of me.  I know of 3 instances in my immediate BDSM community, over the years,  which have turned out fatal.  I have even played with an individual who was so into this that he would put himself into extreme bondage with no way out until I arrived to get the key(s) out of the mailbox.  This would always create some great anxiety for me worrying about if I had an accident on the way over or some other unforseen event ocurring.  Plus, there would be no way to call him and let him know something had ocurred as he can't get to the phone.

He would do things like place himself in extreme bondage, with timed enema's, and he would not be able to release himself until the block of ice melted that had the key(s) frozen inside of it.  The ice block being placed in a place where he could reach the keys once it had melted.  What if one threw up and was aspirating.  Or, the key slid away with the melting water and couldn't be reached.  There you are....alone....no way to call...or answer the door...or yell for help.

Do any of you here participate in self-bondage?  Do you understand the risks you are taking with your own life?
If you do this, what do you do to give yourself an "out" if you need it.  Or, don't you?

Do any others here know people who do this?  Are you familiar with any fatalaties in your community relating to this?
I hope this thread can persuede anyone out there to cease these activitites if they are participating in them.
Any "real" examples of self-bondage gone bad shared on this thread would be a way to help accomplish this.  And, maybe defer a fatality caused from same.




KindLadyGrey -> RE: Self-Bondage and Domination (4/4/2008 9:13:51 AM)

MistressVnus, I do know a boy who does this and it scares the shit out of me too. I'm like, hey kid, why don't you just call me? I'LL tie you up, idiot!

He also likes the chastity belts and does stuff like freeze the keys or mail them to himself.

So far he hasn't damaged himself, but it seems like it's only a matter of time.




MistressVnus -> RE: Self-Bondage and Domination (4/4/2008 9:17:20 AM)

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He also likes the chastity belts and does stuff like freeze the keys or mail them to himself.


Well, the first time he has to go somewhere to request it being cut off because his balls are swelled up to the point of bursting, he might learn his lesson.  *shaking head*




KindLadyGrey -> RE: Self-Bondage and Domination (4/4/2008 9:20:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MistressVnus

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He also likes the chastity belts and does stuff like freeze the keys or mail them to himself.


Well, the first time he has to go somewhere to request it being cut off because his balls are swelled up to the point of bursting, he might learn his lesson. *shaking head*


You know, I think he'd get off from the humiliation and do it again anyway. And no, that's not sarcasm.




MistressVnus -> RE: Self-Bondage and Domination (4/4/2008 9:27:37 AM)

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You know, I think he'd get off from the humiliation and do it again anyway. And no, that's not sarcasm.


Well, maybe this might defer him. 
TRUE STORY:  Someone I know had a steel cock ring on and fell asleep with it on.  When he awoke in the morning his balls were EXTREMELY swollen.  So, he couldn't get the ring off.  He waited a day or two, hoping the swelling would go down, before finally going to the emergency room for help.  They had to "grind" the ring off because the swelling prevented any type of "cutters" to get around it.  But the worst of it was that the swelling had gone on long enough to cause a testicular infection and he had to be cut open, drained, and remained in the hospital for about 2 weeks. His right nut still feels like someone mangled it.  The testicle inside the sac feels like it is all broken apart.




GabrielleSlave -> RE: Self-Bondage and Domination (4/4/2008 9:28:12 AM)

All for self-serving pain when Master commands it of me when He is away, but He would never, ever order me to tie myself up!  i find it scary to think of and feel a little sad that they have not got anyone to do it for them...

Gabrielle x




HandSolo -> RE: Self-Bondage and Domination (4/4/2008 9:42:01 AM)

This thread is my fault! [;)]

Mishap 1: My first attempt at a timed release. I put myself in handcuffs, in strappado. When the release was supposed to operate, the key tangled in the string I had tied to it to ensure it stayed in reach. I had to pull myself up, invert myself, grab the bondage point with my feet, and gradually untie myself. This left me too exhausted to unlock the handcuffs for about a half-hour or so. I didn't play for a couple years after this, trying to figure out a more foolproof method. I nearly dislocated my shoulder, which has suffered a loss of range of motion ( I can't throw a football any more, for instance). I also suffered temporary numbness in my hands, but no paralysis, fortunately. More importantly, I could have dropped myself on my head and died from the impact or positional asphixiation after losing conciousness, or been totall unable to free myself, and simply dehydrated, if I could not summon help.

Mishap 2: I fashioned a hanging wooden pony. Shortly after I mounted it and locked myself, I made a side-to-side, twisting motion, and felt a hot, pins-and-needles sensation leap through my groin. After waiting out my release device, I got out, and found that my entire genital area was numb, but for the pins and needles. I started to regain some sensation late in the day, or after a day or two. The pins and needles weant away completely after a week or so, and I assume I regained full sensation, but I can't prove it. I tried it once more, but bailed out before I started, as the sensation started up almost instantly. No more of that.

Mishap 3: I wanted to bind myself in a deep knee bend position, semi-suspended by my wrists. By the time I got myself rigged, I was in far too bent a position, and my thighs screamed in cramping agony. Fortunately, I had not completed my bondage, but was no more than a couple seconds away from doing so. I can hardly imagine the damage that a half hour-hour in that position could have done to my wrists, hands, legs, et al. No more of that.

Mishap 4: I bound myself on my  back to my bed, legs crossed at ankles, knees bent, hands cuffed over my head. Nice and simple, I relied on the morning's light to release me. When I closed the cuffs, I realized the nail I was to use for double-locking the cuffs had fallen out of reach. Rather than untie the dozen knots it would take to reach it, I snapped the cuffs shut. I soon found that with my ankles crossed, if I relaxed my legs, my shins ground exruciatingly together (try this, it's shockingly painful). Ergo, no sleep. It was winter, so the night was very long. As the light began to show, I made vain attempts to operate my release, but I couldn't see well enough yet. After resting a bit, I tried again. The partially dried sweat made my wrists clammy, and the now-sticky skin stuck to the cuffs nough to close them tightly, ratcheting several clicks tighter. I now found my release device unreachable, between my hands, just below my wrists. Further struggles locked them even tighter. I gnawed my way through those ropes I could reach, but this only gave me a little room to roll, those ropes were no attached to any of the actual bondage points. I did manage to crack a tooth in the process for my troubles, though.

It evetually became clear that I wasn't getting out on my own. After a couple hours of yelling and bumping the wall, I summoned my landlord: my grandfather. That was an uncomfortable breakfast. On the other hand, I had considered gagging myself, which would have very likely have been a fatal decision.

I am not very experimental with my self-bondage attempts anymore.




HandSolo -> RE: Self-Bondage and Domination (4/4/2008 9:44:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressVnus

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You know, I think he'd get off from the humiliation and do it again anyway. And no, that's not sarcasm.


Well, maybe this might defer him. 
TRUE STORY:  Someone I know had a steel cock ring on and fell asleep with it on.  When he awoke in the morning his balls were EXTREMELY swollen.  So, he couldn't get the ring off.  He waited a day or two, hoping the swelling would go down, before finally going to the emergency room for help.  They had to "grind" the ring off because the swelling prevented any type of "cutters" to get around it.  But the worst of it was that the swelling had gone on long enough to cause a testicular infection and he had to be cut open, drained, and remained in the hospital for about 2 weeks. His right nut still feels like someone mangled it.  The testicle inside the sac feels like it is all broken apart.



There are images on the web of a mishap exactly like you describe. They might prove instructive to KLG's adventurer.




Stephann -> RE: Self-Bondage and Domination (4/4/2008 9:54:31 AM)

For me, the impetus of bondage is that I have made her helpless.  Certainly, the arguement that I told them to bind themself holds true, but for my own (personal) perspective, it is the act of dominating that I enjoy.  Instructing someone to engage in self-bondage, to me, isn't dominating but rather receiving submission. 

Stephan




aidan -> RE: Self-Bondage and Domination (4/4/2008 9:59:54 AM)

I used to do a little self-bondage, nothing complicated, but it became too much work. Not enough payoff for the trouble. Better to just wait for somebody to tie me up.




MistressVnus -> RE: Self-Bondage and Domination (4/4/2008 12:17:17 PM)

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There are images on the web of a mishap exactly like you describe. They might prove instructive to KLG's adventurer.


Do you think you could find the link for us, please?




MistressVnus -> RE: Self-Bondage and Domination (4/4/2008 12:26:20 PM)

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I plan on leaving this world the way I came in: naked, screaming and by accident.


OMG.  HANDSOLO!!  Look at your signature line.  Veeeeeeeery spooky when you consider the risks you were putting yourself into.  It might have become a self-fulfilled prophesy.
I'm so glad you have learned your lessons and are still here to tell others why it IS NOT SAFE!!
Thanks you for stepping forward and possibly keeping someone from doing something that might be too late for them to regret, in this demension.

And, now that you're here on CM, perhaps you can find someone to help you out with that extreme bondage.  Hey, then you'd even have someone to torment you while you're immobilized!!




HandSolo -> RE: Self-Bondage and Domination (4/4/2008 2:42:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressVnus

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There are images on the web of a mishap exactly like you describe. They might prove instructive to KLG's adventurer.


Do you think you could find the link for us, please?



Stupid Internet. I've come across those photos several times, but can't find them now. He had put himself in a split-steel ball stretcher, and fell asleep or passed out. The set screw jammed, and he waited a few days before heading to the hospital. The photos show a purple scrotum, swollen to grapefruit size, and an equally rough-looking penis. There is also an after picture, once the emergency room cut away the strtecher, showing the skin hanging off in sheets.

I'll keep looking, but I've seen enough diseased peni this close to dinner already.

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ORIGINAL: MistressVnus

OMG.  HANDSOLO!!  Look at your signature line.  Veeeeeeeery spooky when you consider the risks you were putting yourself into.  It might have become a self-fulfilled prophesy.


I had this topic in mind when I wrote* that (*stole it from a comic).

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ORIGINAL: MistressVnusAnd, now that you're here on CM, perhaps you can find someone to help you out with that extreme bondage.  Hey, then you'd even have someone to torment you while you're immobilized!!


Anything is possible, I suppose. After that, I could go look for WMDs in Iraq.




darchChylde -> RE: Self-Bondage and Domination (4/4/2008 2:53:05 PM)

After reading this thread, i am glad that Ma'am made a rule against self-infliction.  i must admit that there have been times that i've been desperate enough to consider trying something along these lines.  With my clutziness, there is just no way that things could have turned out well.




MsIncontrol -> RE: Self-Bondage and Domination (4/4/2008 3:21:41 PM)

My submissive husband is very skilled in self bondage and had been so since he was at an age that is against TOS to mention.  Over the years he had quite a few mishaps...but thankfully none that caused great injury.  Once he had himself cuffed to my bed while waiting for me to arrive home after a business trip....but he didn't count on the plane being cancelled. He was cuffed an addittional 14 hours longer than he had expected.  While he was dehydrated and exhausted, he was okay.

I did have a friend in the community who passed about a year ago from a self-bondage/breathplay that he routinely engaged in.  Sadly, he was on the road and alone and suffered a heart attack..during this form of play.   Very tragic and he left a beautiful wife and three young boys...it was one of the saddest funerals I've ever been to.




HandSolo -> RE: Self-Bondage and Domination (4/4/2008 3:37:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressVnus

quote:

There are images on the web of a mishap exactly like you describe. They might prove instructive to KLG's adventurer.


Do you think you could find the link for us, please?



Finally. It almost goes without saying, but nobody should click this link for any reason. Ever.

http://www.stileproject.com/squeeze.html






MistressFaye1 -> RE: Self-Bondage and Domination (4/4/2008 4:46:55 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: HandSolo

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressVnus

quote:

There are images on the web of a mishap exactly like you describe. They might prove instructive to KLG's adventurer.


Do you think you could find the link for us, please?



Finally. It almost goes without saying, but nobody should click this link for any reason. Ever.

http://www.stileproject.com/squeeze.html





I couldn't help it... I looked!  OMG is all I can say.  I'm sending this one to others.  Thanks for finding it.

Ms. Faye




MistressVnus -> RE: Self-Bondage and Domination (4/4/2008 4:48:53 PM)

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Finally. It almost goes without saying, but nobody should click this link for any reason. Ever.



EGAD!!!

Did you see how fast that girl could suck cock down at the bottom of the page?  *chuckle*




MsHonor -> RE: Self-Bondage and Domination (4/4/2008 6:55:31 PM)

I wanted to try self-domination once, but then I ordered myself not to.




Leatherist -> RE: Self-Bondage and Domination (4/4/2008 6:58:37 PM)

http://www.gayleague.com/forums/display.php?id=236




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