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ponygirlzira -> RE: Phoneys and wannabes (10/7/2005 12:14:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Borch

Thanks for all the replys. I was expressing my opinon of my feelings of running across so many. "The list" idea is just a rant. No judges but ourselves can make decide whether phoney or not. Please don't shoot the person expressing the thoughts of many.

Don't take it to heart Borch, I lurk here more often than I post because of the sheer speed in which so many here turn into SHARKS when something doesn't suit them.



Kasia -> RE: Phoneys and wannabes (10/7/2005 12:20:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ponygirlzira


many here turn into SHARKS when something doesn't suit them.

Thats (virtual) life, honey, dont take it too much to your heart :)



LadyHibiscus -> RE: Phoneys and wannabes (10/7/2005 12:54:31 PM)

A lady I know started a yahoo group called "submissive check" where we can share REALTIME information on the men who contact us. (For some reason, many lying wankers never seem to realize that WOMEN NETWORK). It's been really helpful for us in spreading information on who got abusive after the second date, or who is married, etc. We're not slamming, just sharing actual events.

So much of what we like is relative.......I have friends who will *never* compete with me for the same men, since our ideas of a dream date are so dissimilar. I do wish there was some way we could flag the genuinely dangerous, like my ex----mental illness, weapons charges, threatening phone calls, stalking........ But what can be done?




Soulhuntre -> RE: Phoneys and wannabes (10/7/2005 2:37:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus
It's been really helpful for us in spreading information on who got abusive after the second date, or who is married, etc. We're not slamming, just sharing actual events.


And this might work fine - right up until someone decides to vindictively share information that isn't true. It always happens in such circumstances.

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus
I do wish there was some way we could flag the genuinely dangerous, like my ex----mental illness, weapons charges, threatening phone calls, stalking........ But what can be done?


There is no way to do so (other than the already established legal "sexual predator" lists and even those are a total failure) without begging for it to be abused.



angelic -> RE: Phoneys and wannabes (10/7/2005 2:49:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

A lady I know started a yahoo group called "submissive check" where we can share REALTIME information on the men who contact us. (For some reason, many lying wankers never seem to realize that WOMEN NETWORK). It's been really helpful for us in spreading information on who got abusive after the second date, or who is married, etc. We're not slamming, just sharing actual events.

So much of what we like is relative.......I have friends who will *never* compete with me for the same men, since our ideas of a dream date are so dissimilar. I do wish there was some way we could flag the genuinely dangerous, like my ex----mental illness, weapons charges, threatening phone calls, stalking........ But what can be done?




i am not sure of the appropriateness of this; however. could You post the link, please?



ModeratorEleven -> RE: Phoneys and wannabes (10/7/2005 3:04:36 PM)

It's not appropriate here. Please don't post any such links.

XI



theRose4U -> RE: Phoneys and wannabes (10/7/2005 3:07:37 PM)

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So, am I the only one who get a special little personal email from Borch?


LMAO guess so. There are a lot of things I'd take you for Faramir but wanna b Sir Domly Dom isn't one of them.



LadyHibiscus -> RE: Phoneys and wannabes (10/7/2005 4:32:25 PM)

We've been lucky with the submissive check list in that it's pretty much been word of mouth and invitation, so we know that the women are not vindictive in nature--so far. We're also careful to watch the nature of the posts---ie "This person made two dates with me and stood me up twice", or "Will not commit to f2f meetings", rather than "wow, what a loser". Even when it comes to the ex, all I can say is "be vv careful."

It's incredibly easy to just start badmouthing someone, and for rumors to spread. In my own scene family, there has been a rift due to just that kind of thing.



CaptCraig -> RE: Phoneys and wannabes (10/7/2005 4:59:49 PM)

To misquote Patton in the movie, "Borch! you magnificent bastard, I read your post!"
Jesus, (that’s the late Mr. Christ of biblical fame) you brought down a deluge upon yourself, now didn't you?
You have now gotten far more responses than you probably bargained for and the reason is simple. We are no different in our approach to the social behavioral tendencies of our many disparate entities than the vanilla world. We sometimes think that we are "above" the rest and are inclined on occasion to consider ourselves, dare I say it, "superior." Now, before you get on your high horse, consider this, we name those who do not follow or are unaware of our proclivities, "vanilla." The term is pejorative, QED.
By opening a thread titled "Phonies and Wannabes" you really played your inexperienced hand but at least you were being honest. Life is what you make it, and like any other endeavour to get what you want takes much hard work and then some. Instead of complaining about the P and W's think of the Henry Ford approach, "I just got another NO, that means the next yes is closer."
I like the tat but what do YOU look like?



angelic -> RE: Phoneys and wannabes (10/7/2005 6:16:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ModeratorEleven

It's not appropriate here. Please don't post any such links.

XI


my apology.



IronBear -> RE: Phoneys and wannabes (10/7/2005 7:06:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: angelic


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

A lady I know started a yahoo group called "submissive check" where we can share REALTIME information on the men who contact us. (For some reason, many lying wankers never seem to realize that WOMEN NETWORK). It's been really helpful for us in spreading information on who got abusive after the second date, or who is married, etc. We're not slamming, just sharing actual events.

So much of what we like is relative.......I have friends who will *never* compete with me for the same men, since our ideas of a dream date are so dissimilar. I do wish there was some way we could flag the genuinely dangerous, like my ex----mental illness, weapons charges, threatening phone calls, stalking........ But what can be done?




i am not sure of the appropriateness of this; however. could You post the link, please?



Private messages are a good way to share links or other private info.....



quietkitten -> RE: Phoneys and wannabes (10/7/2005 7:30:11 PM)

A post to no-one in particular......

And just who would decide who belongs on the list?? Do we make up a checklist of traits the person must have? Or perhaps, must not have???

One persons phoney is another persons real life.

Because I am not looking for anyone.. and have no pic.... and refuse to give my number.. etc, etc, etc.... apparently I am fake.
and all this time I thought I was a real flesh and blood person ... go figure!



BlueDevil -> RE: Phoneys and wannabes (10/7/2005 7:36:19 PM)

The tendancy I've noticed is that if it isn't what the person you're talking to does or wants or approves of, it isn't 'real', 'true', and the person performing the offending act or holding the opposing view is a 'wannabe' or a 'fake'.
People that don't throw those designations around tend to be able to hear another person's point of view without going into spasms.



IronBear -> RE: Phoneys and wannabes (10/8/2005 5:49:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BlueDevil

The tendancy I've noticed is that if it isn't what the person you're talking to does or wants or approves of, it isn't 'real', 'true', and the person performing the offending act or holding the opposing view is a 'wannabe' or a 'fake'.
People that don't throw those designations around tend to be able to hear another person's point of view without going into spasms.



I agree, it's called the old knee jerk reaction. Maybe it's because those doing it are secretly envious?



Fawne -> RE: Phoneys and wannabes (10/8/2005 6:35:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

it's pretty much been word of mouth and invitation,

so we know that the women are not vindictive in nature.....




With all respect LadyHibiscus: " Because it is word of mouth...? "

How is that info valid?
Where do cruel manipulation, cons, hoax, the verbalization of the disturbed and destructive fit? Sounds like chaotic gossip hell. No offense.

"the women are not vindictive in nature? "

????? Women cannot fall prey to anger, weakness, vice ???? Every female on the planet is an angel from above here only to spread grace and beauty??
And most especially.... to serve our sisters in purity.... from the evil male beast? [8|]

(good morning.. when in doubt: feed fawne coffee)






ownedjulia -> RE: Phoneys and wannabes (10/8/2005 6:36:50 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: angelic


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

A lady I know started a yahoo group called "submissive check" where we can share REALTIME information on the men who contact us. (For some reason, many lying wankers never seem to realize that WOMEN NETWORK). It's been really helpful for us in spreading information on who got abusive after the second date, or who is married, etc. We're not slamming, just sharing actual events.

So much of what we like is relative.......I have friends who will *never* compete with me for the same men, since our ideas of a dream date are so dissimilar. I do wish there was some way we could flag the genuinely dangerous, like my ex----mental illness, weapons charges, threatening phone calls, stalking........ But what can be done?




i am not sure of the appropriateness of this; however. could You post the link, please?



That sounds like a scary site? What if someone wants to be vindictive? Any check on the people that write to the site?




BlueDevil -> RE: Phoneys and wannabes (10/8/2005 6:39:13 AM)

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????? Women cannot fall prey to anger, weakness, vice ???? Every female on the planet is an angel from above here only to spread grace and beauty??
And most especially.... to serve our sisters in purity.... from the evil male beast?


So, all those women I dated before focusing on the lifestyle were right?[:D]



mistoferin -> RE: Phoneys and wannabes (10/8/2005 6:57:26 AM)

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yahoo group called "submissive check" where we can share REALTIME information on the men who contact us.


I am not sure if I am more surprised that such a list exists or that anyone would give it credibility.



happypervert -> RE: Phoneys and wannabes (10/8/2005 7:06:25 AM)

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We've been lucky with the submissive check list in that it's pretty much been word of mouth and invitation, so we know that the women are not vindictive in nature--so far. We're also careful to watch the nature of the posts

Yeah sure. That old saying that starts: "Hell hath no fury . . . " applies to everyone but the special gals in your invitation only club. Since you're so careful to watch the nature of the posts it also means you can also design posts to meet the standard for properly blackballing somebody whether it's truthful or not. I think you're just flattering and deluding yourselves about how great you all are.



LadyHibiscus -> RE: Phoneys and wannabes (10/8/2005 8:27:44 AM)

Whew! Sorry I mentioned the list!

I'm not here to say it's the greatest thing ever, just that it's worked so far, without utterly imploding. (miraculous? perhaps.) I only mentioned it to offer what a group of women WHO KNOW EACH OTHER are doing to apprise each other of what the online men are doing.




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