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Real0ne -> RE: depleted Uranium (4/9/2008 7:13:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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Pegatory


Now I'm picturing an afterlife presided over by Peg Bundy.


Hey now I could live that!  :)






Real0ne -> RE: depleted Uranium (4/9/2008 7:32:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SkewsMe

Now I'm hearing from many sources that the Red Cross is refusing blood donations from Iraqi war verterans for reasons including the depleted uranium they've been exposed to as well as the untested vaccinations. "They are unsure of how the blood could be contaminated and don't want to take the chance," according to one researcher.


Yep back in another thread in another time I was being attacked for bringing this out.  (You know same conspiracy "theorist" shit from the lead head crowd.)  The problem is that they cannot make useable measurements to determine the blood is safe.   What happens is nano sized du imbeds itself in the mitochondria and is undetectable by present measuring instruments and does not show up in piss tests.

I didnt mention this before (because its so much fun watching uninformed people make assholes of themselves), but I researched this all the way up to the director of the fda who refused to make an official comment on it once I asked why it is not in print.

This screening does not show up in any red cross pamphlets and is just done by word of mouth, (maybe some memo that has long since been 13'd), good way to remove it from history eh? 

Nothing in writing didnt happen!!! Then 20 years from now when we have thousands of vets with cancer trying to sue they will give them the big fuck off like the did the agent orage victims.

Anyway nuff said.









SkewsMe -> RE: depleted Uranium (4/9/2008 4:00:53 PM)

"Over 70,000 deaths, and over 1 million disabilities among American soldiers attributed to Iraq Wars says U.S. government data," The Canadian, at www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2008/03/21/02286.html I read years ago that the statistics reported from the military through the media about soldier deaths in Iraq only count those "killed in combat" there. Deaths resulting from accidents, suicide, post-evacuation to Landstuhl Hospital in Germany, etc., aren't included in the official death toll. I've also recently heard that there are more than 195,000 homeless veterans.




SkewsMe -> RE: depleted Uranium (4/9/2008 4:11:23 PM)

Chemtrails

A Massive Top-Secret Military Research and Development Project
by Mike Blair
Source: The Spotlight  Printed Edition   October 9, 2000 
 
This page from http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/6583/project376.html to insure that it remains on the internet.
[SkewsMe notes: Score another win for Yahoo Geocities! I started on Geocities myself, my first webpage being my Assassins essay, and eventually discovered by monitoring the website statistics two websites honoring mine as Best Geocities Site before I upgraded to my SkewsMe.com domain. Now back to the news]
 
The strange vapor-like trails, or "chemtrails," from jets flying high above much of the nation and elsewhere in the world are part of a massive top-secret military research and development project, possibly linked to the United Nations, researchers have concluded.
 
A group of about a dozen researchers spent more than a year, mostly in secret, studying the chemtrails. They include experts in electronics, communications, environmental engineering, medicine, biomedical research, chemistry, governmental and political affairs and military theory and technology, as well as veterans of the Central Intelligence Agency and the top-secret National Security Agency (NSA).

Read the remainder at the link above.

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thornhappy -> RE: depleted Uranium (4/9/2008 5:31:08 PM)

You have got to be shitting me.

thornhappy




Smith117 -> RE: depleted Uranium (4/9/2008 6:15:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

You have got to be shitting me.

thornhappy



Sadly they aren't.

The mark of a true conspiracy theorist is when they heap tons of their "evidence" on you while refusing to look at your contrary evidence. More than a couple of people here, with knowledge about planes and such have already debunked the "chemtrail" conspiracy. Yet they refused to believe it.

Here's one thing they don't consider. If it "was" some nefarious plot........the ones who made the 'plot' would be breathing in the same air as everyone else. Hardly smart if you're putting dangerous chemicals into the air.

[8|]




SkewsMe -> RE: depleted Uranium (4/9/2008 6:47:27 PM)

So you're saying "chemtrails" don't exist because someone says they don't? They insist they're just harmless "contrails" made of water vapor. If I could embed videos and show photographs here of documented evidence I would, but I did post links to news reports and documentaries about chemtrails earlier in the thread.

Right now I'm doing research on Nikola Tesla. If you've never heard of him I suggest looking him up. He invented tons of stuff relating to things like free energy and was methodically silenced by people including JP Morgan. If you don't know who JP Morgan was, well that's because his conspiracy to keep people ignorant has been an astounding success. Morgan's legacy lives on in part through the Council on Foreign Affairs, which by their own admission seeks to create a One World Government by conquest if necessary. Clinton, Obama and McCain, by the way, are all members of the CFR, though Obama sure appeared "funny" to the audience when trying to deny it.




Smith117 -> RE: depleted Uranium (4/9/2008 6:58:07 PM)

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Actually, what I'm saying is I'm done with this discussion. Conspiracy theorists are like religious fanatics. No matter how many holes you shoot in their theories or how much counter evidence you show them, they will always swear they "know the truth."

Though as a parting shot, I will point out you've not answered my question. If someone *did* have some nefarious plot to spray chemicals.....they'd be subjected to the same ill effects of those chemicals as everyone else. Unless of course they're on their secret moon base or something. [8|]




SkewsMe -> RE: depleted Uranium (4/9/2008 8:41:42 PM)

I really do try hard to avoid "theory," instead focusing my essays at SkewsMe.com on known facts. There are many conspiratorial topics I won't write about (yet) and many others I didn't write about until having rock solid evidence, like my respected Brain Implants essay.

Please don't forget I've won awards in the field of Government from the Department of Defense school system.

Back in 1996 people looked at me like I was nuts when I talked about Dolly the cloned sheep because it was being censored and only made public a full year later in 1997. I had already read of the Roslin Institute's cloning of an adult cell as early as their March 1996 announcement, and I knew of human embryos having been cloned from the March 1993 front page news at The Seattle Times my fiancee pointed out to me; but in 1996, nobody knew of, believed in, or otherwise would accept what I was telling them about cloning. It was just a "conspiracy theory" as far as anyone was concerned.

I had an absolute blast in 1997 just prior to Dolly being made public telling a career Navy man over dinner about the early cloning experiments at Woods Hole near the turn of the 20th Century after he mentioned he was being restationed there. Having treated me like utter crap earlier that day, he actually seemed to listen to the facts I layed out to him over our meal.

But as it stood, news of Dolly the sheep was still being kept secret...until a few days later.




Owner59 -> RE: depleted Uranium (4/9/2008 8:51:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Smith117

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

You have got to be shitting me.

thornhappy



Sadly they aren't.

The mark of a true conspiracy theorist is when they heap tons of their "evidence" on you while refusing to look at your contrary evidence. More than a couple of people here, with knowledge about planes and such have already debunked the "chemtrail" conspiracy. Yet they refused to believe it.

Here's one thing they don't consider. If it "was" some nefarious plot........the ones who made the 'plot' would be breathing in the same air as everyone else. Hardly smart if you're putting dangerous chemicals into the air.

[8|]



And then, there are those (lol)who engaged,respond to and acknowledge the conspewisy theowists.

Just like peas in a pod.




SkewsMe -> RE: depleted Uranium (4/9/2008 9:42:14 PM)

I have had several conversations with people who have told me they would rather be a star in hell than a slave in heaven.

I was even invited to a Satanist party by a friend of a friend which I of course turned down.

These days I have been recieving emails from soldiers scared out of their minds after being shown the Nazi/Satanic rituals by fellow soliders in positions of power.

If you really think our government is looking out for our best interests, let me try to remind you of what former CIA Director and US President George H.W. Bush said, "New World Order."





Real0ne -> RE: depleted Uranium (4/9/2008 9:51:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Smith117

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

You have got to be shitting me.

thornhappy



Sadly they aren't.

The mark of a true conspiracy theorist is when they heap tons of their "evidence" on you while refusing to look at your contrary evidence. More than a couple of people here, with knowledge about planes and such have already debunked the "chemtrail" conspiracy. Yet they refused to believe it.

Here's one thing they don't consider. If it "was" some nefarious plot........the ones who made the 'plot' would be breathing in the same air as everyone else. Hardly smart if you're putting dangerous chemicals into the air.

[8|]



Like your claims on DU being safe?  LMAO

It does not occur to people that lead heads are the most dangerous people around breeding their philosophy of a pound of cure is worth an oz of prevention, while th eworst case the conspiracy theorist could create is spend a little extra money investigating the criminal syndicte government and throwing them in jail, on the other hand lead heads beg for more abuse.

You are completely wrong about DU what makes you think you are right now?

Evidence is the stuff court rooms use yanno to get to the truth of matter.  Especially when its in air farce print LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwvUhalx-lU&feature=related
but hell lets not let any facts get in the way of a good lead head theory.



The Discovery Channel explains in depth the on going mystery and debate over the chemtrail conspiracies

Of course these guys wont find anything in "standard" fuel LOL


Germany becomes the First Country to *admit* Clandestine Chemtrails Operations
A MEETING
Clifford E Carnicom
Jul 26 2003
Edited Aug 17 2003
A meeting has taken place recently between an investigative researcher and a well placed military source. The identity of both parties is to be protected. The source has intimate knowledge of at least one aspect of the aerosol operations, and asserts the following: 1. The operation is a joint project between the Pentagon and the pharmaceutical industry. 2. The Pentagon wishes to test biological diseases for war purposes on unsuspecting populations. It was stated that SARS is a failure as the expected rate of mortality was intended to be 80%. 3. The pharmaceutical industry is making trillions on medications designed to treat both fatal and non-fatal diseases given to populations. 4. The bacteria and viruses are freeze-dried and then placed on fine filaments for release. 5. The metals released along with the diseases heat up from the sun, creating a perfect environment for the bacteria and viruses to thrive in the air supply. 6. Most countries being sprayed are unaware of the activities and they have not consented to the activities. He states that commercial aircraft flying are one of the delivery systems. 7. Most of the "players" are old friends and business partners of the senior Bush. 8. The ultimate goal is the control of all populations through directed and accurate spraying of drugs, diseases, etc. 9. People who have tried to reveal the truth have been imprisoned and killed. 10. This is the most dangerous and dark time that I have experienced in all of my years of serving this country.
This information is relayed without qualification, as I am knowledgeable in the level of integrity of the researcher that has made this information available to the public. There is both risk and restraint that has been exercised in the preparation of this statement.
http://www.carnicom.com/meeting.htm


Most initial Australian press and TV news reports mentioned the word "contaminant" without providing it's organic chemical name. When I first saw that it was deemed to be an excess of EDA introduced into the Avgas I immediately thought it was one of the substances identified by Wil Smith from chemtrail samples !!! However it is NOT since that substance is ethylene di-bromide (EDB). EDB is a quite bit more toxic than EDA - BUT both are toxic. EDA has been awarded an "Immediately Dangerous to Life or Health (IDLH) rating of 1000ppm whereas EDB has an IDLH rating of 100ppm with the provisio that due to it's carcinogenic properties that respirators be worn where EDB concentrations are > than 0.045ppm. Both substances are fairly similar in organic structure - could one be mis-identified as the other ??? Probably not but in a world of skulldruggery it's worth bearing in mind ..............

However we do NOT know yet what the "white powder deposit goo and the clear gel goo's" chemical compositions are. They both bare a passing resemblance to descriptions of substances found on the ground and buildings after passage of chemtrail aircraft - in both North America, Australia and New Zealand, and Europe.
That is white powdery substances and clear gel like "goos" containing cocktails of nasty toxic chemicals and all sorts of pathogens etc.

One wonders if the immediate problem of identification of the second discovered contaminants that faced Professor Trimm was caused by the presence of substances not normally added to Avgas - unlike the "acceptable" EDA which is normally added in much smaller amounts to Avgas than those now alleged to be causing "vegemite goo".

Therefore I feel it necessary to issue a preliminary cautious alert to the World Chemtrail Researchers of this current Australian Avgas scenario. It may well be that the second contaminants will be found to be derivatives of an excess loading of EDA reacting with other parts of the aircraft fuel supply. If so that will be fine.

However one can imagine a scenario where either a refinery Avgas manufacturing process had been sabotaged to alter the Avgas composition such that it included toxic and possibly bacterial, fungal, and viral substances and that this process had unpredicted side effects on free fuel flow causing the current red alert, or that a chemtrail spray manufacturing process was inadvertently diverted into the Avgas refinery run ??? The aircraft owners reported long time nature of this fuel contamination scenario - some two years - and the lack of previous action on complaints suggests that at the very least there has been long term interference in Mobil's Avgas manufacturing process. Two years is about the same time frame as the earliest chemtrail reports ....................Where better to manufacture chemtrail spray fluid than in an oil refinery ??? Judging from the many reports of observed chemtrails the volume of spray fluid required must be astronomical and would require very large manufacturing facilities - at least to mix the several noxious components.

What better way to spray large numbers of people located in population centres than by getting the national fleet of piston engined aircraft to spread the substances in their exhaust - straight out of the standrard fuel ???

http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/new121.htm




Real0ne -> RE: depleted Uranium (4/9/2008 9:55:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SkewsMe

I have had several conversations with people who have told me they would rather be a star in hell than a slave in heaven.

I was even invited to a Satanist party by a friend of a friend which I of course turned down.

These days I have been recieving emails from soldiers scared out of their minds after being shown the Nazi/Satanic rituals by fellow soliders in positions of power.

If you really think our government is looking out for our best interests, let me try to remind you of what former CIA Director and US President George H.W. Bush said, "New World Order."




ah look up bohemian grove!  And the death rituals practiced by 322 LOL

Fucking lunatics, and they have us chasing muslims?  Should be looking in our own back yard first!!






Real0ne -> RE: depleted Uranium (4/9/2008 10:12:23 PM)

Oh but dem conspeewity "theorists" just keep pounding those lead heads asses that are swingin in the breeze with crumpled up FOIA paperwork no less!  I think I am getting an erection!!  LMFAO!!



From: Public Relations
Subject: Snow White - FOIA
Date: 1998/09/12

RE: SNOW WHITE PROGRAM - FOIA

The Snow White Program definitely had some unexpected and socially significant ramifications. In the United States, Freedom of Information Act requests and research by the Church led not only to the discovery of false reports on Scientology, but uncovered illicit government activity such as the following:

* o In 1979, Scientologists learned about and exposed through the pages of Freedom the harmful nature of the drug BZ, a hallucinogen classified as up to 100 times as powerful as LSD. Formally known as quinuclidinyl benzilate, the United States Army had dubbed it BZ and tested it at Edgewood Arsenal in the 1960s, giving it to thousands of U.S. servicemen, many of whom reported serious adverse after-effects.

* o In the 1970s and 1980s, Freedom exposed tests conducted by U.S. government officials with other harmful substances. In 1979, Freedom wrote of "Operation Big City," five consecutive days of covert biological warfare experiments conducted in 1956 by the Central Intelligence Agency with the cooperation of U.S. Army personnel. In 1980, Freedom published an analysis of CIA records which revealed that the agency had sponsored biological warfare tests in the state of Florida in 1955. These tests were linked to an outbreak of whooping cough in that state which claimed the lives of 12 people, half of them children under the age of one.

* o Also in 1980, Freedom broke the story of how the CIA had spent more than $150,000 to continue a biological warfare project in defiance of a 1969 presidential order. The CIA spent money through 1972 for development and testing of biological warfare "harassment systems" and for the "large scale production of microorganisms," despite the order banning the stockpiling and production of such weapons.

These investigative reports, which benefited and protected the human rights of people outside the Church, were initiated by Scientologists working on the Snow White program.

For more information about Scientology and Freedom magazine that covers these issues go to:

http://www.REMOVEscientology.org
http://www.REMOVEfreedommag.org

http://www.cosvm.org/swfoia.htm



OOPS Day it is again by freedom magazine this time!  From Nexus mag this time!  by Sid Taylor

An article from Nexus Magazine April/May1992

How totowy frustwating!!



In 1979, FREEDOM exposed the harmful nature of the drug BZ, a hallucinogen classified as up to 100 times more powerful than LSD. By means of a phone call, FREEDOM legally obtained a sample of the deadly substance free of charge – enough to drug the entire United Nations General Assembly. FREEDOM turned its BZ sample over to the DEA and notified the drug firm how the substance had been obtained. The firm rapidly implemented stiffer controls.

Formerly known as quinuclidinyl benzilate, the U.S. Army had dubbed it BZ and, in tests administered at Edgewood Arsenal in Maryland in the 1960s, gave it to thousands of American serviceman, a number of whom reported severe adverse after-effects.
http://www.freedommag.org/25thanni/govmt.htm


Oh damn it another comspeewity "theory"!

Techniques used by Government agencies for mind control

Skeletons in the Closet: Part 2

MK ULTRA SUBPROJECT-68

http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/pro-freedom.co.uk/skeletons_1.html


Oh sheet when does it stop? pweeze make dem compewity teorists top!

PART ONE -- CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL WARFARE
II. THE SECRET PLAGUES.

Governments do experiment on their own citizens. In the Soviet Union the victims never talk, but in a supposed free society if they can remember they have been victimized they might even sue.

A secret CIA-Army team infected Americans with deadly germs from 1949 to 1969. Equipped with nasal filters and other protective gear, these cladestine agents of OPERATION BIG CITY targeted Hawaii, Alaska, New York, Florida, and California with biological weapons (BW). Using trick suitcases and a 1954 Mercury equipped with dual mufflers and extended tailpipes, the spooks cast their clouds of plague along four New York City turnpikes and through the commuter-choked Licoln and Holland tunnels.

Attacks on Florida and New York were followed by epidemics of encephalitis and whooping cough. Thirty years after a secret attack on San Francisco Bay launched from a Naval vessel in 1950, victims finally responded with angry lawsuits against the government. (1) Government agents also injected thousands of unsuspecting Americans with germs such as syphilis. (2)

Similar incidents occurred in Britian and the Soviet Union. The full grisly story can be told now that formerly secret BW documents have been released after nearly 30 years. Just the tip of the invisbile iceberg, the fact that innocent civilians have been victimized by their own governments drives home the threat posed by today's invisible technologies of war.

http://www.angelfire.com/or/mctrl/bowart.htm



Oh the pain, oh the hurt all dem compeeites what can we doo you cwazy wabbit?  Damn that cwinton reweasing all dem secret govoment documents.  ruin my who lead haed party!


Wise up people there is enough shit on this government no one has to make anything up.


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SkewsMe -> RE: depleted Uranium (4/9/2008 11:07:44 PM)

I watched the other day the film of the Bohemian Grove captured by Alex Jones, the only known video of their secret society's rituals. Sure the first hour of the video I'd consider almost a waste of time, but the actual footage of the creepy ceremony at the end is well worth viewing. The powerful government elitists actually buying into this ritual crap spewed on them at the Grove makes me want to vomit.




Real0ne -> RE: depleted Uranium (4/9/2008 11:14:46 PM)

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If you really think our government is looking out for our best interests, let me try to remind you of what former CIA Director and US President George H.W. Bush said, "New World Order."
 

Nutha point I want to make on that too.  If you pay attention to what he said he has sworn allegiance to the fucking UN!  Not the us!  Make the UN dreams come true one way or another.  Traitors to our constution and no one says a word!!


Oh yeh I seen that one too.  Have to admit ole alex has some cast iron balls to do the investigative work he does!  LOL   Frankly with what he all uncovers with the help of his viewrs and anon tipsters I am surpised they havent shot him.  If this was the 60's he would have ended up like MLK.







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