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I need help and I am having trouble - 4/9/2008 2:12:35 PM   
cheffy


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I need help in my search for a Mistress. Its been over 5 years and still I havent found one mistress willing to accept me for who I am. I need guidance in how to talk to a mistress andgain their trust. I been going nowhere and I want to serve.
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RE: I need help and I am having trouble - 4/9/2008 2:28:30 PM   
Pyrrsefanie


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Step 1: get off the internet, go outside, and try to find someone RT instead of relying on an internet forum to do it for you.

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RE: I need help and I am having trouble - 4/9/2008 2:34:14 PM   
MladyHathor


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Lady P have you ever been to Jackson Wyoming? Not much life there period, let alone RT---

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RE: I need help and I am having trouble - 4/9/2008 2:56:12 PM   
Pyrrsefanie


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MladyHathor

Lady P have you ever been to Jackson Wyoming? Not much life there period, let alone RT---


LOL.  Okay, you've got me there.  :P  Admittedly Wyoming is one of the few states I've never been to!


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RE: I need help and I am having trouble - 4/9/2008 2:57:59 PM   
Kana


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But man, jackson is one lovely place.
And I hear that they have a bit of skiing to.

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RE: I need help and I am having trouble - 4/9/2008 3:05:22 PM   
Pyrrsefanie


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Haha, Pyrrsefanie + any sport = emergency room.  My boy keeps trying to convince me to go skiing with him once I move up to New Hampshire and all I can picture in my mind is me hitting a tree over... and over... and over...


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Ти синтетична до болю

Read my series, Taking Jessica, on http://www.akashaweb.com !

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RE: I need help and I am having trouble - 4/9/2008 3:09:01 PM   
littlesarbonn


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First off, where you're located is going to be a problem for you, but not the worst problem you could have. In your situation, if I was there (and a job interview ago, I almost was), I'd make myself known to whatever tiny community probably does exist. I'd ingratiate myself to the Denver community, and possibly anyone that might have a munch going on in Laramie, or some of th eother larger cities. But to be honest, if I was in your boat, I'd actually start pursuing vanilla relationships and be upfront about my submissive nature. In MANY situations in the past, just being honest with women upfront has actually led me into relationships with women who were interested in being dominant but never even dreamed such a lifestyle might exist. It doesn't always work, but it worked a lot.

One thing I'd really brush up on is basic social skills (for all I know, you might be Casanova at a dinner party, so it's just advice), because finding a dominant woman is really not that much different than finding a vanilla woman. Sure, there are some blatant differences with individuals, but for the most part, if you can charm people without worrying about the bdsm aspects, you'll be one step up on actually trying to find yourself in a relationship that might go your way. Of course, not everyone is open to the bdsm lifestyle, and you may have to fail a few times before ever finding someone right.

The other thing is probably most important: Make sure you're the type of submissive a woman might actually want. It's not just enough to "be" submissive, but you have to make yourself attractive as a submissive. An example is something I learned some years back: I might have a lot of specific submissive fantasies, but I'm going to have a really, REALLY hard time finding a connection by advertising "what I want done to me". Instead, think about it from a marketing perspective. What would SHE want? And then ask yourself if that's something you can deliver. And then ask yourself if that's something that you can incorporate as part of your submissive nature. If you go into it with a "I'll give her what she wants until I get what I want" she's probably going to see through it, and if not, she's probably going to dump you faster than the garbage when she does. And you'll never even see it coming.

What skills do you have? Are they useful to a dominant? Or are they arbitrary? In other words, if you ever do start courting a dominant woman, you're going to fail most times if you're response to "What can you do for me?" is "Stuff" or the classic: "Anything you want." Be specific. Do you give GREAT massages? I don't mean a good one. EVERYONE does a "good" massage. Can you do a GREAT one? If not, go get training. Take a massage class. Can you fix her car? No? Go learn how to fix a car. It might even help you one day if you're out on the road and yours stops working. Are you a computer repair person? If not, pick up a book and learn how. Think about all of the things you have to offer, and then try to build upon those skills. BE WHAT SHE WANTS AND NEEDS, and you have a chance of actually making a connection.

Remember, if you're in an area where A LOT of dominants are active, you have HEAVY competition. If you live in an area where there are very few, or one or two at most, if lucky, dominants, you're competing against the rock stars of submission, people who really know what they're doing. You have to be better than them. Being somewhat attractive and having a hard cock really aren't enough to cause someone to be enamored of you. Okay, there's that one woman, but she's different.

Anyway, I don't know if this is helpful, but here it is.


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RE: I need help and I am having trouble - 4/9/2008 3:51:40 PM   
Madame4a


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Pyrrsefanie

Haha, Pyrrsefanie + any sport = emergency room.  My boy keeps trying to convince me to go skiing with him once I move up to New Hampshire and all I can picture in my mind is me hitting a tree over... and over... and over...




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RE: I need help and I am having trouble - 4/9/2008 3:54:33 PM   
Madame4a


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quote:

ORIGINAL: cheffy

I need help in my search for a Mistress. Its been over 5 years and still I havent found one mistress willing to accept me for who I am. I need guidance in how to talk to a mistress andgain their trust. I been going nowhere and I want to serve.


If you want online, that you can find...

if you want offline, go offline... and I'd suggest you reread that profile for grammar and spelling -- if you read the threads in the Ask Mistress area, you'll see that counts with many of us.

And finally, if its really what you want, you might have to move -- unfortunately.


< Message edited by Madame4a -- 4/9/2008 3:55:11 PM >

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RE: I need help and I am having trouble - 4/9/2008 4:21:35 PM   
meforu


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I know what you mean Cheffy! I live in an area where there are two dommes within 100 miles. searching online.....even in collarme.com is truely not that productive. I'm kinda ok with that but then again I'm an older sub/masochist and am looking for casual instead of 24/7 with an intrest in pain and not all that serving/submissive you will be mine crap (wow that sounds strong!). I am compeating with a bunch of very young men who are exploring with their own sexuality and I admit.....I'd pick them way over me. there are dommes everywhere though and if you don't mind fee for service Las Vegas is about the most fun I've ever had! I am ventureing off to Denver soon to check out the Enclave and am hopeing to head overseas for some BDSM fun. there are lots of ways to further your training and meet others like your self and seek out the one you need........Just a thought

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RE: I need help and I am having trouble - 4/10/2008 6:51:02 AM   
Dnomyar


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Is it me or have any of you noticed how many subs are comming on here trying to get someone to take them on. Talk about lazy. Sorry but I can't see why it has been going on 5 years with nothing happening. Now if you were in prison I can see not finding a Mistress. If that were the case I would advise you to have a very vivid imagination.

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RE: I need help and I am having trouble - 4/10/2008 6:56:16 AM   
DianeB269


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Check your area for BDSM clubs and munches...


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quote:

ORIGINAL: cheffy

I need help in my search for a Mistress. Its been over 5 years and still I havent found one mistress willing to accept me for who I am. I need guidance in how to talk to a mistress andgain their trust. I been going nowhere and I want to serve.

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RE: I need help and I am having trouble - 4/10/2008 1:39:56 PM   
Pyrrsefanie


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dnomyar
Now if you were in prison I can see not finding a Mistress. If that were the case I would advise you to have a very vivid imagination.


Lies, if he were in prison, I guarantee you he'd be getting the bitch action he so deeply craves.  No imagination required...

...well except maybe to go to your "happy place" and pretend that it's really Giselle Bundchen ramming your ass and not your Silence-of-the-Lambs-dancing roommate.


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Ти саркастична, це – доля,
Ти артистична в неволі,
Ти симпатична в цій ролі,
Ти синтетична до болю

Read my series, Taking Jessica, on http://www.akashaweb.com !

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RE: I need help and I am having trouble - 4/11/2008 8:32:58 AM   
Pyrrsefanie


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Our dear friend Cheffy decided to send me a message on the other side... answers all of our questions as to why he's having so much trouble finding a mistress.  Apparently being told to try looking outside of the internet is not what he wanted to be told, and I am a "naive young bitch" who "cannot tell an older gentleman like me how to run my life."

Oh, and I'm not a real Dominant because we all know I've never had any sub experience...

Nasty, simply nasty.


< Message edited by Pyrrsefanie -- 4/11/2008 8:36:54 AM >


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Ти саркастична, це – доля,
Ти артистична в неволі,
Ти симпатична в цій ролі,
Ти синтетична до болю

Read my series, Taking Jessica, on http://www.akashaweb.com !

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RE: I need help and I am having trouble - 4/11/2008 8:39:28 AM   
khem


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Wah wah.  I live in an area within an hour or two of major cities and in a town with an active BDSM group and I can't find a compatiable submissive. 

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say it's statistically difficult to find someone who:
1) Is localish
2) Is compatiable in a nilla way
3) Is compatiable in a BDSM way
4) Is available

I figure this sucks for everyone, not just male subs out in BFE.  Shit, I've even got breasts and I find it difficult!  I am just being too picky?

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RE: I need help and I am having trouble - 4/11/2008 8:41:39 AM   
khem


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Pyrrsefanie

and I am a "naive young bitch" who "cannot tell an older gentleman like me how to run my life."


Ohhh it's not the location or his orientation.  It's the asshat problem.

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RE: I need help and I am having trouble - 4/11/2008 8:51:07 AM   
Stephann


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quote:

ORIGINAL: khem

Wah wah.  I live in an area within an hour or two of major cities and in a town with an active BDSM group and I can't find a compatiable submissive. 

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say it's statistically difficult to find someone who:
1) Is localish
2) Is compatiable in a nilla way
3) Is compatiable in a BDSM way
4) Is available

I figure this sucks for everyone, not just male subs out in BFE.  Shit, I've even got breasts and I find it difficult!  I am just being too picky?



Hiya khem,

Lovely breasts they are too! 

There's a lot to be said for being selective.  It's incredibly easy to get 'someone.'  Getting someone who actually meets your emotional, physical, and psychological needs can take a very long time. 

People heavily involved in school, an extremely taxing job, or other 'more than full time' activities often don't have the time and energy to devote to a serious relationship.  As your life situation changes, as you meet more people, and as you grow and learn more about yourself, you find yourself in a better position to meet someone who really rocks your socks.

cheffy might be emotionally challenged; you, m'dear, are not.

Stephan

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RE: I need help and I am having trouble - 4/11/2008 8:55:37 AM   
Madame4a


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Pyrrsefanie

Our dear friend Cheffy decided to send me a message on the other side... answers all of our questions as to why he's having so much trouble finding a mistress.  Apparently being told to try looking outside of the internet is not what he wanted to be told, and I am a "naive young bitch" who "cannot tell an older gentleman like me how to run my life."

Oh, and I'm not a real Dominant because we all know I've never had any sub experience...

Nasty, simply nasty.



ah well.. now we know why he can't find a mistress...

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RE: I need help and I am having trouble - 4/11/2008 9:01:49 AM   
Stephann


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Oh, I almost forgot.  For guys who aren't asshats, here's some clear advice on how to actually meet someone online.

Men: Find a Woman here
 
Stephan

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RE: I need help and I am having trouble - 4/11/2008 9:10:19 AM   
lateralist1


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littlesarbonn I really can not let your comment about dominant women pass.
All dominant women are not lifestyle and all lifestyle Dommes are not dominant.
If a dominant woman is all a sub is looking for then there is much more chance of finding one in vanilla life.
And if all a woman wants is a submissive man then she is probably much more likely to find one in vanilla life as well because all BDSM subs are not submissive.

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