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RE: Why nem Suck at Sex - 4/12/2008 1:18:49 AM   
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well my dads a doctor and my mothers a nurse and neither one talked to me about sex.  a girl at school got out a ruler and showed me how to do blow jobs and my first period was terrifying - was at boarding school and a friend gave me a tampax and told me to go put it up, and i said 'how am i going to pee with that inside me'...!

my experience with sex, is if men enjoy and i mean really enjoy women and sex then its great fun, if they see it as a means to an O, then it usually isnt - i had one guy say to me 'this is a really odd thing to do to each other isnt it' - and he was probably the worst lover i have ever had! - there was another guy who got seriously skwicked out if i gushed and another who didnt really understand the concept of foreplay.  but its always the guys that 'love' women 110% that make the best lovers.

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RE: Why nem Suck at Sex - 4/12/2008 2:17:51 AM   
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I don't "suck" at sex unless every woman I have ever been with is a liar.  Of course, that's quite possible.  But what the hell do I care...I got mine. 

Seriously, I never talked about sex with my parents either.  My mom made an attempt once when I was about 14.  I think she saw something on an after school special and decided to try being like the baby boomer parents (my parents were older; not boomers.)  She was sitting on the couch when I came home from school and asked to talk with me.   I sat down thinking she must of found some contraband in my room and that I was in deep shit.  But instead she stumbled through a introduction to her attempt to reach out to me.  It started something like, "I know you're at an age where you're curious...."  I sat there and listened, and she finally dropped a big question.  "Do you know what masturbation is?"  Of course my reply was, "Yeah mom I do, and I don't want to talk about it with you."  I got up and went to my room, and that was the end of any further sex education attempts.

I am glad my parents weren't boomers with Dr. Spock ideas about child rearing.  They left me the hell alone to figure out things on my own.  They didn't fill my head with nonsense.  I don't know why people take a simple thing like sex and try to make it so complicated. 

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RE: Why nem Suck at Sex - 4/12/2008 10:41:04 PM   
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some men do suck at sex, as my experience can certainly attest.  Sadly, most of those who were really inept were simply one of two case scenarios:
1. they were just clueless and weren't the least bit interested in learning anything
2. they were so focused on their big chubby that the ends always justified the means

Fortunately for Me, I am back in the arms of the best! 

What an amazing lover.

And I'm quite certain that he didn't learn his techniques from his mom, that's for damn sure.

TM

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RE: Why nem Suck at Sex - 4/13/2008 7:00:38 AM   
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Well, judging from the responses here, the problems seem to be:

1: lack of early education. Getting kids quality information about both puberty, and the proper approach to sex is sorely lacking.

2: The societal myth that men need only to fuck competently in order to be an adequate lover. (combined with the myth that cock size is everything)

3: lack of feedback from partners, thus letting them know that they need to work on certain aspects.(They're bad at it, their partners don't want to hurt their ego, so the problem continues.)



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RE: Why nem Suck at Sex - 4/13/2008 7:36:03 AM   
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Yeppers!  Seems to be the last taboo in our society.  No one wants to teach young people about sex... they just say "Don't Do It!" and don't talk about it.  It takes a lot of mistakes to learn anything by trial and error. 

(How many Mom's out there fell for that lie about the 'rhythm method'?  I know I did!" )

In European cultures that are less 'hung up' about sex, there is a lower rate of STD's, teen pregnancy, etc.  In the USA, we just sort of toss our kids out there to learn 'on the street' - or more likely off YouPorn!  Isn't that sad? 

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RE: Why nem Suck at Sex - 4/13/2008 9:13:12 AM   
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a girl at school got out a ruler and showed me how to do blow jobs


how interesting..... i prefer other uses for rulers....spanking is one of them...they did that to our students in my school.  but that was the 80s.



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RE: Why nem Suck at Sex - 4/13/2008 10:00:33 AM   
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Well, judging from the responses here, the problems seem to be:
1: lack of early education. Getting kids quality information about both puberty, and the proper approach to sex is sorely lacking.


Could not agree more.  Even in places where sex education exists, it's almost never sex-positive education--i.e., safety first, but supplemented by information about pleasing and protecting your partner.  Giving kids a litany of information about disease and pregnancy gives them NO idea how to be considerate, competent lovers.

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2: The societal myth that men need only to fuck competently in order to be an adequate lover. (combined with the myth that cock size is everything)


Please, let's not start this thread again! 

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3: lack of feedback from partners, thus letting them know that they need to work on certain aspects.(They're bad at it, their partners don't want to hurt their ego, so the problem continues.)


I have been in this position myself with vanilla or dominant men.  Giving negative feedback to them is incredibly difficult, especially if it's about the difference between "yes, that feels very good" and "whoa, that's going to bring me off hard".  Some men really do have an enormous amount of ego and emotion invested in the belief that they are perfect lovers, as well as a false notion that a woman's pinkbits are some sort of universal adapter which will always respond the same way to the same set of stimuli.  "Well, it worked for my last girlfriend..."    Ugh.



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RE: Why nem Suck at Sex - 4/13/2008 2:59:29 PM   
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I don't know how you came to believe that just because a woman bleeds that she knows everything about sex and her body and is a "master" at it.  It's just NOT true.

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RE: Why nem Suck at Sex - 4/13/2008 6:24:50 PM   
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The thing is, about #1 on my previous listing, this may be a generational thing. I know my young nephew knew volumes more than I ever did at his age. (At least about the basic mechanics) So perhaps things on that score ARE improving for the next round of young adults. Of course, this is only dependant upon progressive policies of the states and federal government agencies that control the ciriculum of public schools...

So, everytime we vote in conservative republican christians, we take a huge step backward. We ratchet up the same hellish ignorrance that we all went through, to some degree or another.

I'm beginning to think that perhaps, like Drivers Ed (which many schools no longer offer) sex education should be an independant class that parents can sign their kids up for. Make it an independant business instead of linking it to some whim of a neanterthal political party. Spend a couple hundred bucks on taking a four week class, and save billions on abortions, prenatal, delivery, and postnatal care, and save nationwide in welfare also. Kids would be able to avoid early pregnancy, and stay in school longer instead of having to quit and get low paying jobs just to support an unplanned for family.

Oh, and maybe, just maybe, more guys would be better at sex. ;)

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RE: Why nem Suck at Sex - 4/13/2008 6:30:46 PM   
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Daddy doesn't suck at sex.  He makes me feel yummy each time. 

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RE: Why nem Suck at Sex - 4/13/2008 6:46:12 PM   
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Nope, my 'sex talk' from my mother was her handing me a Kotex box and a belt [for guys, this is a very old-fashioned menstrual pad].  Until I read the pamphlet in the box, I didn't know I had a vagina.  I had to sneak tampons into the house since she thought they were abominations.  Went away to college at 17 and didn't have to sneak anymore, in any sense.  A decade later, took a sub and her to the UK and I bunked with my mum.  I'd wait for her to go to sleep and sneak into my sub's room, bend him over the windowsill and fuck his ass 'til dawn, then sneak back into Mum's room. 
And we still haven't had 'the talk'  . . .

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RE: Why nem Suck at Sex - 4/13/2008 6:51:11 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: lally3

a girl at school got out a ruler and showed me how to do blow jobs and my first period was terrifying - was at boarding school and a friend gave me a tampax and told me to go put it up, and i said 'how am i going to pee with that inside me'...!
I've been wondering that for years.

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my experience with sex, is if men enjoy and i mean really enjoy women and sex then its great fun, if they see it as a means to an O, then it usually isnt
I like to laugh when I'm in bed with someone, 'cause it's such a joyous occasion. Just great to be alive.
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i had one guy say to me 'this is a really odd thing to do to each other isnt it' - and he was probably the worst lover i have ever had!
well, it IS an odd thing. damn comical at times. I've had all kinds of mishaps; falling out of bed, having my cum come out her nose, getting flooded during 69,
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 - there was another guy who got seriously skwicked out if i gushed and another who didnt really understand the concept of foreplay.  but its always the guys that 'love' women 110% that make the best lovers.
I'm not really able to judge myself, but I do absolutely love being in bed with women. MMmmm yum.

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