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Real0ne -> RE: hemaphrodites (4/13/2008 3:23:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

hermaphrodite is a form of intersexed (around 11 known forms of intersexed exist-i am living example).  it is rare that the person is allowed to actually keep both genitalia... in most cases one of them is taken from the baby at birth or a young age (like 1 or 2).  many cases the patient and the parents are not even told that this happens(in my case).  but sometimes the parents are told and they never tell their child what happened to them.  though usually this child becomes the opposite sex the parents chose them to live as.  so they find out anyway.

almost always one or both genitalia are not functional.  they have problems because of hormonal issues and the fact the genitalia are fighting with each other, one trying to be more dominant (lack of better word).  this tend to help the dr decide which one to take away.

in some cases the child is allowed to choose, usually done before puburty or at puberty.  also there is often deformity within the genitalia.  many possible deformities can happen.

do not clump intersexed in with trans like soo many people do.  its way different.

hermaphrodite comes from the god/goddess hermes and aphrodite.








wha wha wha wait a second.

You are saying that only one set or most likely neither set of genitalia is functional?  Frankly that does not make sense to me.  I can understand gender confusion on an emotional and otherwise mental level but not on a physical level.

I do realize that men who develope breasts and milk to nurse a child for instance will have increased levels of help me here, is it prolactin?, but it will not stop them from having a functional erection either.  Now if this developes in nature or on a natural level I find it difficult to imagine that both would be nonfunctional and I frankly cant see one or the other being nonfunctional.   I am not saying that is that way with everyone.

So are you absolutely sure this is the case, because I have seen some pretty awesome herm vids and they looked pretty functional ot me!  ;)






kc692 -> RE: hemaphrodites (4/13/2008 6:10:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: subfever

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Why is that attempt at humor on your part limited to that part of our human race? 


Well duh... maybe because it was in direct response to the OP's comment?

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Do you consider the phrase "Go fuck yourself" an insult? I'm sure you have heard it alot.


Whazzamatta? ... Got a problem with my attempt at humor? Did I manage to touch a nerve? Or are you playing Mother Hen on the rag again?




I don't have a problem with your ATTEMPT at humor.  It is consistent with the rest of your posts, and just continues to show "who you are".  Seems I must have touched a nerve for you to resort to name calling (which also continues to show who you are) lol....the only nerve you touched was how I(and others) perceived the insult that you intentionally threw at some of the site members. 




MistyMenthal -> RE: hemaphrodites (4/13/2008 6:55:19 AM)

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hermaphrodite comes from the god/goddess hermes and aphrodite.

 
Her-map-hro-dite.
 
My Ex was one.
 
Always, misty[sm=oops.gif]






lighthearted -> RE: hemaphrodites (4/13/2008 7:08:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

So Willow makes a utube video saying that she was born intersexed, and the following day there is a thread about 'hermaphrodites' with a rather insulting and biologically impossible question...is there a connection?
I don't know.
I do know that Willow posted a link before the last three questions were asked, and that the link positively addresses those questions.
I also *think* that when someone is a bit different, but willing to be open and discuss it with you, the subject should be approached with sensitivity.
I *think* that some of the questions that were asked could have been answered with a quick google search, or even a bit of biological knowledge, actually.
Not that there is anything wrong with asking questions; it's the way they are phrased that alarm me.
So many of us can't understand why the world can't accept us and our kinks...we didn't choose them, really...for most of us it was part of the package.
Same for Willow...except she can't even pretend not to be different. She doesn't have that choice.
We do have a choice in how we treat people.
I guess, since it's 'only' the internet, people can't be hurt by what you say.
It's only pixels on a screen.



I have to agree with you here...from the moment I read the title of this thread.  to me, the term "hermaphrodite" is archaic and insensitive.  I feel "intersexed" is more accurate and frankly, choosing "hermaphrodite" over "intersexed" is something I would expect from a much older generation. 

but, as you said, it's only the internet, so no one is expected to apply any filter to what they put out there. 

ok, back to your regularly scheduled programming.




subfever -> RE: hemaphrodites (4/13/2008 8:27:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kc692

quote:

ORIGINAL: subfever

quote:

Why is that attempt at humor on your part limited to that part of our human race? 


Well duh... maybe because it was in direct response to the OP's comment?

quote:

Do you consider the phrase "Go fuck yourself" an insult? I'm sure you have heard it alot.


Whazzamatta? ... Got a problem with my attempt at humor? Did I manage to touch a nerve? Or are you playing Mother Hen on the rag again?




I don't have a problem with your ATTEMPT at humor.  It is consistent with the rest of your posts, and just continues to show "who you are".  Seems I must have touched a nerve for you to resort to name calling (which also continues to show who you are) lol....the only nerve you touched was how I(and others) perceived the insult that you intentionally threw at some of the site members. 



I'm sorry that you don't care for my humor. But what's your motivation for coming onto this thread to focus negative attention on me, without even contributing to the OP's topic itself?

And how dare you even suggest that I intentionally insulted anyone here? You could not possibly have known what I was thinking when I typed my post. It was intended as a joke, and nothing more.





faerytattoodgirl -> RE: hemaphrodites (4/13/2008 8:46:53 AM)

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You are saying that only one set or most likely neither set of genitalia is functional?


if you read what i said... it says: almost always one or both genitalia are not functional.  they have problems because of hormonal issues and the fact the genitalia are fighting with each other, one trying to be more dominant (lack of better word).  this tend to help the dr decide which one to take away.

what does the first two word say? ALMOST ALWAYS.  which does not mean everybody and i happen to know more about this than you do.  i am living example of intersexed.  with many years of research about the subject.




domahpet -> RE: hemaphrodites (4/13/2008 8:59:23 AM)

faery girl, your patience is admirable [sm=applause.gif]




faerytattoodgirl -> RE: hemaphrodites (4/13/2008 9:02:30 AM)

ignorance is futile.....

you will be ASS imulated....

with many spankings.




domahpet -> RE: hemaphrodites (4/13/2008 9:18:16 AM)

after yesterday, youre probably right :(




GreedyTop -> RE: hemaphrodites (4/13/2008 9:32:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: domahpet

after yesterday, youre probably right :(


uh-oh..what happened?

And Faery..I have to agree with Domah... I'd never have the patience you have!@




Real0ne -> RE: hemaphrodites (4/13/2008 9:57:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

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You are saying that only one set or most likely neither set of genitalia is functional?


if you read what i said... it says: almost always one or both genitalia are not functional.  they have problems because of hormonal issues and the fact the genitalia are fighting with each other, one trying to be more dominant (lack of better word).  this tend to help the dr decide which one to take away.

what does the first two word say? ALMOST ALWAYS.  which does not mean everybody and i happen to know more about this than you do.  i am living example of intersexed.  with many years of research about the subject.




well dont get me wrong, I am not in to much of a position to argue the point I was and still am surprised and frankly in disbelieve which has nothing to do with your personally but only internally with my own thought processes as I would never have guessed and have had the obviously the totally wrong impression all these years.

Seems like a hot topic so I am otta here, thanks for the info I consider myself better informed.





faerytattoodgirl -> RE: hemaphrodites (4/13/2008 10:56:57 AM)

current known forms of intersexed:

Gonadal intersex (or "true hermaphrodite"): Rare condition in which the child has both ovarian and testicular tissue, either in separate gonads or as hybrid "ovotestes." Reproductive tracts, genital anatomy and gender identity are variable.

Congenital adrenal hyperplasia (or adrenogenital syndrome): Genetic error in adrenal glands causes excessive secretion of androgens during fetal life. Genitals of female children are masculinized to a variable degree. Psychological effects include an increased likelihood of same-sex attraction in adulthood.

Androgen insensitivity syndrome (AIS, or testicular feminization): An XY (chromosomally male) fetus lacks sensitivity to testosterone, so develops external anatomy and gender identity of female, but lacks internal reproductive tract of either sex.

Partial AIS: Like AIS, but with reduced rather than absent sensitivity to androgens. Child may partially virilize at puberty if testes are not removed.

Hypospadias: Condition in male children in which the urethral meatus (opening) is located on the underside or at the base of the penis. Represents an incomplete male differentiation of the genitalia, but it is not necessarily considered an intersexed condition, especially in its milder forms.

Mayer-Rokitansky-Kustur-Hauser syndrome: Failure of development of vagina, cervix, uterus and fallopian tubes in genetic females. Cause not known. James Benson may have had this syndrome, although his male gender identity is atypical.

Vaginal agenesis: Failure of formation of vagina, for a variety of reasons, including MRKH syndrome.

Cloacal exstrophy: Severe congenital malformation of pelvis, including (in males) lack of a penis. These boys usually develop a male identity even if castrated and surgically reconstructed as females.

Klinefelter's syndrome: Genetic males with one or more extra X chromosomes (XXY, XXXY). Anatomically male but infertile.

Turner's syndrome: Affected individuals have one X and no Y chromosome. Ovaries degenerate during fetal life, in other respects anatomically female. Short stature and lack of secondary sexual characteristics without treatment.

Hermaphrodite: Old medical term for an intersexed person, given new life by some intersex activists.




Real0ne -> RE: hemaphrodites (4/13/2008 1:21:47 PM)

Thanks, so is there an average of one flavor or another moreso than others or with the exception of number one is it pretty much a random distribution? 




faerytattoodgirl -> RE: hemaphrodites (4/13/2008 5:07:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

Thanks, so is there an average of one flavor or another moreso than others or with the exception of number one is it pretty much a random distribution? 


i doubt it...but you see the point im making...notice all the deformities in every one of those forms??? always something wrong.





daddysblondie -> RE: hemaphrodites (4/13/2008 5:33:44 PM)

faery,

applause to you for your patient dissemination of the facts and my deepest sympathy that you have to deal with the tactless and the ignorant.





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